And then some!!! I don't think anyone in the shooting community even knows who is supposed to be on this panel representing whom anymore.

The .22 pistol case apparently has a bit more to it but that may not be true considering how things get "legs". Nargc funded this too afaik.

There was case to high court for a .308 rifle, funded by nargc apparently, long before pistols ever came on the scene.

One of those who organised the practical circus denied to me it ever happened. A buddy of mine was there and he reckoned it was sheer lunacy.

My comment re army was "some" not s/a rifles. Steyr AUG has s/a & full auto 😀 I was referring to some "high power" rifles out there in ranges.

The original large calibre case was for a .308. Nicholas Flood, a multi European silhoeutte shooter (met him a few times he's a gentleman) took the case with afaik nargc backing.

This ban is defo some politician/s on a crusade to save the masses from us crazed and armed lunatics 😞 or to deflect attention from more of their skulduggery.

So CASS are you aware that one among your group brought this to the attention of the Govt?

This proposal being well read amongst many at the moment, is the agenda of a boards member looking to gain personal influence. These firearms were never a problem to any, havent caused any issues. This is like plastic straws, an easy fix by legislation, the problem is thats an erosion of shooting sports in Ireland and internationally for no good reason other than an electioneering platform.

I dont see the shooting community standing up for an erosion of the sport, except the backing fb group of the person responsible. When are you going to learn, everything on this forum is read by the DOJ and by many others who have no idea about shooting. They take everything out of context.

When shooters have an issue, want some group formed to help. (Laziness)

You want a say, put in your own submission to the DOJ, then if its passed go to the Highcourt and on to the EU court.

If you want shooters to have one in the future submit directly to the DOJ if not bury the head in the sand, seems thats the done thing these days

So it would be fair to say you were doing a "solo run" proportion to represent a body FNU that actually only has you as the only Irish member! No wonder you didn't get a cup of tea and I doubt it you will get any further meetings for sure. You did say am I wrong that you met them by yourself! Jesus you could have said anything!

Humble apologies to all members of FNU Irish Branch, as a member no doubt you received minutes from the DOJ meeting!

Only joined boards in February so it would have been hard for me to be "disparaging" back in 2019 when the meeting took place, it is not my intention to have a row with anyone each to their own but I am very surprised at an individual who proports to represent shooters giving such misguided advice to folks who are asked by their FO to inspect their firearms! There you go so what exactly is FUN doing about the potential ban on CF S/A rifles in Ireland?

Sounds like a great plan of action. Best of luck with it.

Indeed they did...It was posted here Dec 4th 2020... And its FUNI,do try and keep up!

It must really boil some peoples urine, still,that I a nobody,[with the backing of an EU recognised lobby group] went and got more information than some established organisations did with all their committees, elected reps and membership and purported mandates and all the rest,by simply asking to meet a govt body via 3 emails and a phone call and had the AUDACITY to publish what happened. It must have been like the little dog in the Wizard of Oz, who pulled away the curtain to expose "Oz the great and terrible",as a little man with a machine and great sound effects and no magical power.

Well maybe if those with "mandates" and representation, had been DOING THEIR JOBS in2017/20 and involved themselves in dialogue with the DOJ, as they only had about 3 years warning since FUNI was reporting about this mag ban almost weekly from Brussels here on boards that this was an inevitability,and me even warning a current member of the NASRPC committee that I know that this was going to be a problem, but that the EU was leaving it open on how member states implemented it,and as there was no opposition to this, the DOJ took the easiest course obviously because no one from the main lobby groups engaged on this issue.

I wouldn't have had to have gone there in the first place! But you know what I'm GLAD it still rankles under some peoples hides as it obviously does . Maybe too they should consider this as a warning from newer and more vocal groups coming up. If you aren't doing what you are supposed to do in representation and being vigilant to attacks on the sport and keep rolling over and acquiescing to every Govt diktat. Don't be surprised if individuals and others start forming or joining other more vocal and progressive groups. People with glasshouse and chucking stones spring to mind.

And guess what sweethearts? We are NOT going away either...So get used to us being around. We'll gladly help and cooperate with ANYONE who has the same ideals and aims of securing gun ownership of ANY kind here in Ireland. There is no idea of us making money from FUNI. Or some "personal enrichment / political power" as some accused me of here, or trying to be King of the Hill or whatever. We are here to do one thing only Mission statement "Prevent as much as possible further gun bans or restrictive laws from being enacted national and EU wide." The END.

If you like that, then welcome,if not you are part of the problem and get out of the way.

Well I will bow to your superior actions as you seem to have the solution in regards to solving the wrongs of the last 50 years of oppressions of lawful ownership of firearms, I don't have any master plan or solutions, if there were acceptable solutions greater minds than mine would have come up with them over the last 30 years. Unfortunately we are in a society where our worst enemies are ourselves, the infighting, the backbiting the bitching, the aggression, (OMG and in the main all the people involved in the infighting are legally entitled to hold firearms!) there is no hope for unity among the shooting community in Ireland and without it there is little possibility of defeating the constant chipping away at legitimate firearms ownership.

In fairness we do not have it so bad since 2004 when we got back our pistols and larger caliber rifles, we have three year licenses, we have regulated rifle and pistol ranges to shoot in and with the regulation of ranges we can say we are no danger to the public as DOJ certify the ranges and AGS certify them, look to places like UK, Australia, New Zealand where sporting use of firearms have been destroyed in the interest of public safety............yea for course that works doesn't it.

No I am sorry I do not believe we have a hells chance of stopping future restrictions for all of the above reasons, even in the threads that I have been posting in there is such venom and realistically we are really all on the same page. So there you have it

Rich for you of course asking about mandate and qualifications, where did you get your mandate to go into the DOJ what is the membership of FUNI, I can ask and you can answer if you wish or can, I do not proport to represent anyone only my own views, maybe I am a grumpy old man (my wife calls me Victor) but then I have been involved in shooting sports since I was 17 and I am now 64, maybe that gives me some creditability and of course as in all walks of life freedom of speech and the right to express ones opinion is a right I value.