Interclub 2022 eligibility

dines08 · 30-08-2021 4:44pm #1

Hi guys,

Just a quick one regarding eligibility for 2022 interclub. Does anyone know if the system reverts to your lowest handicap index for this year as the counting index for interclub 2022 or does it still depend on whatever your index is on January 1st 2022?

I've had different people tell me the opposite, i was of the belief that the only reason it changed this year (counting the index an individual had on January 1st) was because the new system was introduced. I've tried golf ireland website but I can only find the information relative to 2021. Any help much appreciated

big_drive · 30-08-2021 7:35pm

I've heard it's going to be index as at 1st January 2022. That's not from a 100% source though

Will be madness if that's correct.

Rikand · 30-08-2021 9:00pm

Apparently golf club committees have been told in advance that it's going to be based off your January 1st, 2022 handicap. Which is madness imo because it's going to lead to some rampant handicap building.

dines08 · 31-08-2021 11:42am

Thanks for the replies guys. I had heard that also but was hoping that wasn't the case. I'm 3.3 and thought I was out for Bruen for 2022 but that obviously isn't the case. It's going to be open to so much blatant cheating

big_drive · 31-08-2021 5:20pm

I can see people really trying to build handicap up in a few weeks from now once things start winding down for winter

Once winter rules, placing etc come in I assume you can't still continue to submit casual rounds for handicap?

Rikand · 01-09-2021 4:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117827046#Comment_117827046

are you going to make sure you get out to 3.5 for the bruen ? Lol

prawnsambo · 02-09-2021 9:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117825117#Comment_117825117

Not to my knowledge. No guidance on 2022 cups and shields has been received by my club. Wouldn't expect to at this early stage.

This was in the communication from Golf Ireland regarding the 2021 championships:

Furthermore, there is a high likelihood that at this time next year the same analysis may produce very different data. Therefore, Golf Ireland will review the handicapping criteria outlined here at the end of the 2021 season and will communicate any changes that may be necessary for 2022 at that time.

Aliasjones · 02-09-2021 9:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829113#Comment_117829113

If preferred lies in nothing should be allowed count towards handicap? Comps or casual?

prawnsambo · 03-09-2021 8:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117839679#Comment_117839679

It's literally in the rules of handicapping that preferred lies on fairways can be allowed for qualifying. And has been for some time.

spacecoyote · 03-09-2021 11:47am

lift and replace can also be used as qualifying conditions too, right, just not lift and place?

prawnsambo · 03-09-2021 11:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117841430#Comment_117841430

Yes, in the rough as well. Model local Rule E-2 is for lifting, cleaning and replacing the ball. Model Local Rule E-3 is the 'preferred lies' rule.

slingerz · 07-09-2021 8:58pm

I have heard it’s going to be your index at end of September that will be used for next years interclub comps, anyone else hear similar?

prawnsambo · 07-09-2021 9:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117860359#Comment_117860359

Nothing has been confirmed yet. End of September would be a bit odd when qualifying competitions usually carry on until at least the end of October.

slingerz · 08-09-2021 4:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117860483#Comment_117860483

Apparently it’s to limit the handicap grower ahead of the new year

Rikand · 08-09-2021 9:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117864193#Comment_117864193

The professional handicap growers will have made their plans well in advance of that anyway

prawnsambo · 08-09-2021 10:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117865454#Comment_117865454

And we all know that most of the growth is in the summer. Autumn is harvest time. 😁

prawnsambo · 13-09-2021 10:48pm

One option I've heard mentioned and which makes a lot of sense to me anyway is that the low index for the year is used as the cut off. This has a number of positives; one being that it means that inter-club players must have a minimum of 20 counting rounds and obviously their handicap based on their lowest index achieved in 2020. And it's very difficult to manipulate your low index and still have those once in a Captain's Prize blowout rounds.

Rikand · 14-09-2021 11:29am

Yeah, using the low index makes the most sense even though it would decimate most of our teams lol

prawnsambo · 14-09-2021 8:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117888896#Comment_117888896

Could be a lot of disappointed people. And lads with only a few counting rounds finding they're automatically out of the running. It's very hard to manipulate your low index. 😁

slingerz · 14-09-2021 9:05pm

I’d be surprised as for the first year you’d have some whose low index is what they’ve started on. They’d need a years worth of data to make that decision IMO

Enforcing 20 comps will defo be a positive move

prawnsambo · 14-09-2021 9:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892125#Comment_117892125

My low index until very recently was from August 2020. By the time January comes around, everyone's low index will be from this year. And it will be their lowest index, not the one they started on unless they just took up golf this year. But yes, you have to get to 20 rounds before you have a low index set, so that excludes anyone under that.

Poker Face · 14-09-2021 10:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117887431#Comment_117887431

This would make more sense as pre WHS it used be your lowest handicap from the year before that was used for interclub teams

slingerz · 15-09-2021 8:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892339#Comment_117892339

How will everyone have a low index from this year? Wouldn’t they need to have 20 comps played or am I misunderstanding it

prawnsambo · 15-09-2021 9:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117896516#Comment_117896516

Well yes, I said it a couple of times that you have to have 20 counting rounds before your low index is set. But your twenty counting rounds can be spread over more than one year, your low index can only be from the last twelve months.

slingerz · 15-09-2021 10:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897138#Comment_117897138

Is that the last 12 months without a soft/hard cap

prawnsambo · 16-09-2021 12:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897513#Comment_117897513

Soft or hard cap has nothing to do with it other than being based off your low index. Your low index is always from the last twelve months. It also has to be an index you've played off. So if you play today and that changes your index to its lowest in the last 12 months, it won't come into effect as your low index until you play again.

slingerz · 16-09-2021 3:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899122#Comment_117899122

Ok so say I started the year off a low index of 9 for the implementation of the WHS and have never get to that and my index rises over the course of the year to say 12 does that mean for the proposed eligibility of next year my low index would be the 9 that I played my first qualifying competition off of?

prawnsambo · 16-09-2021 8:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899884#Comment_117899884

Yes. If it's an index you played off in 2021 and it's your lowest.

willabur · 17-09-2021 10:32am

is this something that is seriously being discussed at Golf Ireland level or is it just Boards speculation?

prawnsambo · 17-09-2021 12:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117902878#Comment_117902878

Not boards, but from somebody who would be connected to people in GI. It's not an outlandish suggestion since prior to WHS, it was your lowest handicap in the previous year that was the general rule. Like the Jimmy Bruen where you were ineligible if your handicap was below five during the previous calendar year.

big_drive · 20-09-2021 11:37am

Does low index only kick in after 20 cards?

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