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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 ferm


    Hi all. Long time lurker in a spot of bother! I'm a newbie to the home bar so please go easy on my lack of knowledge lol.

    I bought a Lindr 40k and a couple of kegs for a family wedding which is this weekend. I was going to test it last night but the beer has stopped dispensing.

    A bit of background.....with the Lindr devices I believed that the inbuilt air compressor would suffice and no gas was needed - such was the info on the website. A few pints pulled but quickly stopped.

    I have since bought 50/50 gas and left it on at 30psi for an hour but there is still no beer in the lines.

    Can you please give me some advice and guidance to get this running? Are the kegs "dead" or should they still be able to dispense with the gas now in place? I don't mind buying a new keg or 2 but the main thing is to get it running properly.

    I can't post images yet as a new poster unfortunately.

    Confused!


  • Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭paddyirish23


    Had Problems with a small head on the guinness on my last keg, tried 35 to 40 pressure but no joy. Taste wasn't as good as previous either. Got a new keg today was going to ask is it too high a pressure causing the small head or the opposite?
    My 10l cyl(only 3 kegs in) is just gone out of the green and into white, I'm assuming it won't affect it until the needle is alot closer to empty? Lines cleaned 2 weeks ago so hopefully was just the keg!


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭jt69er


    ferm wrote: »
    Hi all. Long time lurker in a spot of bother! I'm a newbie to the home bar so please go easy on my lack of knowledge lol.

    I bought a Lindr 40k and a couple of kegs for a family wedding which is this weekend. I was going to test it last night but the beer has stopped dispensing.

    A bit of background.....with the Lindr devices I believed that the inbuilt air compressor would suffice and no gas was needed - such was the info on the website. A few pints pulled but quickly stopped.

    I have since bought 50/50 gas and left it on at 30psi for an hour but there is still no beer in the lines.

    Can you please give me some advice and guidance to get this running? Are the kegs "dead" or should they still be able to dispense with the gas now in place? I don't mind buying a new keg or 2 but the main thing is to get it running properly.

    I can't post images yet as a new poster unfortunately.

    Confused!
    What kegs did you get?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Air only works on keykegs

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 ferm


    jt69er wrote: »
    What kegs did you get?

    Got Carlsberg and Coors light. Had a bar owner look at it tonight but he was none the wiser. Perhaps an issue with the couplers? Is there some sort of switch off valve inside them?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭jt69er


    ferm wrote: »
    Got Carlsberg and Coors light. Had a bar owner look at it tonight but he was none the wiser. Perhaps an issue with the couplers? Is there some sort of switch off valve inside them?
    Those kegs wont work with the system you have. That system, as was previously stated, only works with Key Kegs where the product is forced from the kegs by the compressed air. Some of the Craft Breweries use Key Kegs, none of the regular Breweries do. There may be a way of by-passing the compressor and using regular gas but I'd need to see the system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭kingaaa


    jt69er wrote: »
    Those kegs wont work with the system you have. That system, as was previously stated, only works with Key Kegs where the product is forced from the kegs by the compressed air. Some of the Craft Breweries use Key Kegs, none of the regular Breweries do. There may be a way of by-passing the compressor and using regular gas but I'd need to see the system.

    There is an inlet at the back of the unit to run the line by-passing the air compressor, I was contemplating one of these before I decided on the kegerator. In fact they actually do a version that has no air compressor at all.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ferm wrote: »
    Got Carlsberg and Coors light. Had a bar owner look at it tonight but he was none the wiser. Perhaps an issue with the couplers? Is there some sort of switch off valve inside them?

    If you've blown air into the beer itself then the kegs are gone.

    You'll need to set it up like below



  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭clio_16v


    Anyone know where I could get Guinness tap, coupler / whatever it's called, beer lines and gas regulator for cheap? Looking to turn an old fridge into a kegerator



  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭keyboard_cat


    Question regarding gas, I’m looking to have a two tap setup at home one tap for Guinness and one for larger and I’m a bit lost on what to get. Looking online I see that I need 75% nitrogen and 25% co2 for Guinness but for larger I need a 50/50 mix.

    is it ok to use the Guinness gas on a larger keg? It will it end up going flat quickly? (Also is the pressure the same for Guinness as it is most larger, ideally I don’t want to have to get two gas canisters and 2 regulators :/



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    I think it would be better to run both on the Nitro mix, i have never done it so cant say for sure, but have heard people do it that that, the Larger might not be a bubbly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭paddyirish23


    The 75/25 is fine for the beer, never had an issue, I run guinness and coors light off same cylinder.

    Bought a kegerator recently and having trouble with a big head on the guinness can't seem to sort it, tried longer hose, different pressure but nothing, seems to stay at abt 2inches. Anyone have a similar issue with the kegerator set up? Tried a different tap and everything in out of ideas🤔



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭jt69er


    The two things that can effect head size are gas and temperature, are you sure both are correct?



  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭hbab2009


    Hi folks, 2 questions........


    Is there a guinness gas regulator I can get which lets me know via a dial if gas is almost empty?

    Also how much gas should be going into the system or is it a case of just twist it until u can't twist no more?


    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Do you currently have a setup, if so post a picture of your regulator, most have a bottle fill level gauge.

    Secondly the pressure depends on the gas you are using 75/25 or 70/30, pressure will be between 29 and 38 psi

    Also do you have a long line from the tap to the keg?



  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭hbab2009


    Sorted thanks. Any advice on how to best clean a guinness glass? Just hot water and no detergents?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭shmeee


    Look up Steve Gilsenan (Guinness Global Head of Quality) on intagram. He mentioned this on his story last night.

    If using dishwasher it was 3 runs I think;

    • Run with just hot water
    • Next run a cycle with some Renovate
    • Final run a rinse

    Or if washing by hand, just use very hot water and normal table salt. Insure when leaving glasses to dry, air can get at them. A few glass stacking mats also essential, very cheap online.

    The key is to not use the glasses for anything else in the house or it will leave a coating on the inside of the glass. There is a reason why the "good" pubs would use the old Fooster or Becks glasses for the pint of Lucozade, milk, mi-wadi etc and not give it to you in a Guinness glass. Many pubs would only have hot water in their glass washers and just follow good glass care etiquette.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭jem


    Hi anyone have the Lindr machine and roughly how long will a keg of Guiness last compared to regular cooler



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Depends if you use a regulator and gas or the compressor

    If you use a regulator and gas, same as a cooler, if you use the compressor, I believe a weekend, but I could be wrong.

    Kegs will last the longest in a kegerator.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭jem


    With regard to kegerator I believe you need to have keg in fridge for about 24 hours to get it cold. Could you have spare in another fridge in say the shed and if the one in the kegerator just move one out and one in or would you need to have the keg in situ without moving ?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Ye it's definitely a downside. I don't think it takes as long as 24 hours but probably best to use it as a guide. I've always had my keg in for a few days before tapping it.

    If you want to have a spare fridge, you'll need a large fridge for a 50l keg. An under counter fridge won't be big enough.

    Kegs definitely last longer in the fridge, which is an upside.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭jem


    Quick question when buying a new Guiness keg how far away should the best before date be ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭paddyirish23


    Depending on when you intend to use it really, once it's used within 4 to 6 weeks and stored correctly shouldn't be a problem.



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭jt69er


    A Guinness keg delivered today should have a best before dated mid April.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭jem




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭shmeee


    Again that's best before.... This still grand after 😉 Drank many a keg (over the last 2 years) a good few weeks OOD and didn't notice any difference TBH.

    8-12 weeks usually on them from St James Gate. But I have seen some kegs during early December delivered to bars and best before date's were end of January (5/6 weeks was all, these came off a Guinness Truck too)



  • Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭IgsTer


    Quick question, I currently have a 2 product maxi 310 cooler. Both coils are long ones going from the diagram and would be more suited to cooling beer and I am looking to add a shorter coil to it of around 2metres for Guinness as there is already holes made in the cooler unit for 4 in 4 out pipes.

    Can I just add 2 metres of 3/8" beer line pipe into the resorvoir on the inside to do this and have them come out of the holes at the front and join up?



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭jt69er


    When a Maxi 310 cooler is used in trade, beer/lager is usually double chilled therefore only one product per cooler. When used with Guinness, product is usually circulated once although Guinness is often double chilled also. I have never seen a Maxi 310 with provision for extra coils but in theory what you suggest should work although i'm not sure 2m will be enough to achieve the required temp.



  • Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭IgsTer


    Thanks for the reply, I will try just using the one coil with Guinness and see how well that cools I've never actually used this cooler yet so the results might not be that bad. In future I was hoping to double cool the beer and installing another coil/pipe for guinness. Instead of 2metres which you think might be too short I will probably try 4 metres as that seems to be the length of shorter coils on a 4 product maxi cooler. Thanks again.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭jem


    Hi couple of quick questions please.

    1. what dishwasher liquid are people using for beer glasses I see according to Heineken website needs to be fat and oil free liquid.
    2. second have a kegerator Guinness grand but morati pints not holding their head at all . Having to slow polar otherwise all foam using Guinness gas from star gas any ideas please


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