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the 'there's no such thing as a stupid question' bike maintenance thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭patspost


    well it just says 4, but the 26 must be inches, so not sure they would mix imperial & metric.
    it cant be 4 inches, they are about 4o mil now that i think about it.

    ill prob get 38 mil or something like that..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    patspost wrote: »
    Hi folks,
    I've an old mens bike that Im going to fix up a little, starting with new tyres & tubes.
    the current tyres are size 26" by 4, what would be the best size tyre to get for it?

    thank you

    How old is the bike? There was a 26 x 1 1/4 (26 by one-&-a-quarter) inch size on old Brit bikes; maybe that's where you're seeing the 4 in the marking?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,388 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    26" is a very common standard for wheels, mountain bikes used that size for many years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Elvis Hammond


    26" is a very common standard for wheels, mountain bikes used that size for many years.

    The tyres/wheels are not all interchangeable though. The old size I mention has a BSD of 597mm, & the mountain bike one is 559mm.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,388 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    not specifically a bike maintenance thread, but there's no universality of connectors for floor pumps, is there? i threw the hose out on this ~20 year old pump a few years ago (it had perished), and it's been knocking around the garage ever since. should just bin it if a new hose cannot be bought (which would probably be for the cost of a new pump anyway!)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭cletus


    not specifically a bike maintenance thread, but there's no universality of connectors for floor pumps, is there? i threw the hose out on this ~20 year old pump a few years ago (it had perished), and it's been knocking around the garage ever since. should just bin it if a new hose cannot be bought (which would probably be for the cost of a new pump anyway!)

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    If you've any way of measuring threads, internal diamater, or whatever, I'll check it against my cheap aldi/Lidl pump. If it's the same, I'd hang on until the get them in again, you'd have a replacement hose for about 8 quid


  • Posts: 413 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Has anyone here taken their bike to a bike shop to have bottle cage mounts fitted using Riv nuts?

    I'm trying to fit a battery but unfortunately the existing bottle cage mounts are slightly in the wrong position plus I could use an extra two holes for a more secure fit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    Has anyone here taken their bike to a bike shop to have bottle cage mounts fitted using Riv nuts?

    I'm trying to fit a battery but unfortunately the existing bottle cage mounts are slightly in the wrong position plus I could use an extra two holes for a more secure fit.

    Hey,
    I've never taken my bike to a shop for it but I have fitted rivnuts for bottle cages before (as recently as yesterday).

    If it's something you would consider doing yourself, feel free to ask any questions you might have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Lissavane


    My bike has 20 x 2.25 Kenda tyres. Got a puncture the other day. Removed tyre and tube and found glass in tyre that protruded slightly inside the tyre. The strange thing is that the hole in the tube was about 4 or 5 inches around the tyre from where the glass was.

    I checked the inside of the tyre thoroughly and found one thing other than the glass. Very close to where the puncture occurred, there was a small pimple of rubber on the inside of the tyre. It seems like it was there since manufacture and there's no sharpness.

    1. Is it possible that the glass might have caused a puncture that appears that far away on the uniflated tube?

    2. If that "pimple" in the rubber of the innerside of the tyre might have caused the puncture through friction, what would be the best way to remove it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Lissavane wrote: »
    My bike has 20 x 2.25 Kenda tyres. Got a puncture the other day. Removed tyre and tube and found glass in tyre that protruded slightly inside the tyre. The strange thing is that the hole in the tube was about 4 or 5 inches around the tyre from where the glass was.

    I checked the inside of the tyre thoroughly and found one thing other than the glass. Very close to where the puncture occurred, there was a small pimple of rubber on the inside of the tyre. It seems like it was there since manufacture and there's no sharpness.

    1. Is it possible that the glass might have caused a puncture that appears that far away on the uniflated tube?

    2. If that "pimple" in the rubber of the innerside of the tyre might have caused the puncture through friction, what would be the best way to remove it?

    3. The glass went through the tyre and punctured the tube. As the tube deflated, the tube moved/twisted so when you removed the tyre, the hole in the tyre and tube were in different locations?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Lissavane


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    3. The glass went through the tyre and punctured the tube. As the tube deflated, the tube moved/twisted so when you removed the tyre, the hole in the tyre and tube were in different locations?

    Thank you for replying. Yes, maybe and I hope that's the case. But I didn't remove the wheel, so I was pretty sure the locations on tyre and tube should have lined up pretty well. Then, it is a pretty fat tyre and tube so maybe deflation accounted for it.

    Anyway, what would you think of that little rubber "pimple" on the inside of the tyre? It's not something I'd have thought would puncture the inner tube but I wonder if friction over time could do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭cletus


    Lissavane wrote: »
    Thank you for replying. Yes, maybe and I hope that's the case. But I didn't remove the wheel, so I was pretty sure the locations on tyre and tube should have lined up pretty well. Then, it is a pretty fat tyre and tube so maybe deflation accounted for it.

    Anyway, what would you think of that little rubber "pimple" on the inside of the tyre? It's not something I'd have thought would puncture the inner tube but I wonder if friction over time could do it.

    I'd say it's a manufacturing mark, maybe from the injection molding process. It's very unlikely, to the point where I'd say it couldn't happen, to have abraded your inner tube to the point of failure. And even if it had, it wouldn't have left a puncture hole, it would have left a wear mark


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Has anyone here taken their bike to a bike shop to have bottle cage mounts fitted using Riv nuts?

    I'm trying to fit a battery but unfortunately the existing bottle cage mounts are slightly in the wrong position plus I could use an extra two holes for a more secure fit.
    So your not refitting existing holes, you want to drill new holes and fit riv nuts. I presume it is a steel bike?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Lissavane wrote: »
    Thank you for replying. Yes, maybe and I hope that's the case. But I didn't remove the wheel, so I was pretty sure the locations on tyre and tube should have lined up pretty well. Then, it is a pretty fat tyre and tube so maybe deflation accounted for it.

    Anyway, what would you think of that little rubber "pimple" on the inside of the tyre? It's not something I'd have thought would puncture the inner tube but I wonder if friction over time could do it.

    I’d say the glass is the culprit. The only way to be sure is to fit a new tube and see if you get another puncture in the same location


  • Posts: 413 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CramCycle wrote: »
    So your not refitting existing holes, you want to drill new holes and fit riv nuts. I presume it is a steel bike?

    No unfortunately it's an aluminium bike, I have read that if I add carbonated steel Riv nuts that it will actually make the frame stronger than before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Lissavane


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    I’d say the glass is the culprit. The only way to be sure is to fit a new tube and see if you get another puncture in the same location

    I've patched it now anyway and so far so good. Thanks again.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    No unfortunately it's an aluminium bike, I have read that if I add carbonated steel Riv nuts that it will actually make the frame stronger than before.

    I'll be honest, it should be possible, no idea about it making the frame stronger, I suspect they meant it's less likely to crack after drilling. Loads of people have done it and it seems to have worked. With no science behind my assumption though, I wouldn't be drilling near a joint nor would I do it on an ovalised tube. My alu road bike is wafer thin and all I could see happening is the frame cracking, but my old mountain bike was solid and I would imagine it could be punctured multiple times without issue. Anyway, no help to you other than people online seem to have done it without issue. I doubt a bike shop will do it though, from a liability point of view, they wouldn't take the risk of it failing after the fact, so it would be a homemade job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭ARX


    I'm installing a Hollowtech II bottom bracket (BB-RS500 to be precise).

    Shimano specifies a torque of 35-50 Nm. There are several Shimano manuals covering this part, some say to grease the threads and some don't say anything about grease.

    I've put copper grease on the threads and tightened to 35 Nm. As they're greased I don't want to go near the upper end of the torque range.

    Any reason to torque them up any more than the lowest torque setting? 35 Nm feels pretty tight. Not 'swinging out of it' tight, just 'hold the frame steady with the other hand and pull the torque wrench firmly' tight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭cletus


    ARX wrote: »
    I'm installing a Hollowtech II bottom bracket (BB-RS500 to be precise).

    Shimano specifies a torque of 35-50 Nm. There are several Shimano manuals covering this part, some say to grease the threads and some don't say anything about grease.

    I've put copper grease on the threads and tightened to 35 Nm. As they're greased I don't want to go near the upper end of the torque range.

    Any reason to torque them up any more than the lowest torque setting? 35 Nm feels pretty tight. Not 'swinging out of it' tight, just 'hold the frame steady with the other hand and pull the torque wrench firmly' tight.

    I can't speak to the torque range, but in general, grease and copper grease are not interchangeable


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ARX wrote: »
    I'm installing a Hollowtech II bottom bracket (BB-RS500 to be precise).

    Shimano specifies a torque of 35-50 Nm. There are several Shimano manuals covering this part, some say to grease the threads and some don't say anything about grease.

    I've put copper grease on the threads and tightened to 35 Nm. As they're greased I don't want to go near the upper end of the torque range.

    Any reason to torque them up any more than the lowest torque setting? 35 Nm feels pretty tight. Not 'swinging out of it' tight, just 'hold the frame steady with the other hand and pull the torque wrench firmly' tight.

    I wouldn’t use copper grease either, it’s corrosive to seals. Your bottom bracket has seals, I think. Use poly grease. 40nm is loads

    Edit: copper grease isn’t even a lubricant. Didn’t know that:

    Copper grease is an anti seize compound designed to operate at extremes of temperature. Note, it is not a lubricant. It is often used to help prevent seizing and corrosion at high temperatures in the automotive industry.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    ARX wrote: »
    I'm installing a Hollowtech II bottom bracket (BB-RS500 to be precise).

    Shimano specifies a torque of 35-50 Nm. There are several Shimano manuals covering this part, some say to grease the threads and some don't say anything about grease.

    I've put copper grease on the threads and tightened to 35 Nm. As they're greased I don't want to go near the upper end of the torque range.

    Any reason to torque them up any more than the lowest torque setting? 35 Nm feels pretty tight. Not 'swinging out of it' tight, just 'hold the frame steady with the other hand and pull the torque wrench firmly' tight.

    35Nm - be grand
    Copper grease - be grand

    Maybe remove the BB after winter, clean the BB threads and the threads in the bike and use a grease more generally suited for bicycles next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭ARX


    Brian? wrote: »
    I wouldn’t use copper grease either, it’s corrosive to seals. Your bottom bracket has seals, I think. Use poly grease. 40nm is loads
    I don't have any poly grease but I have Finish Line Teflon Grease - would that do the job, or would I be better getting Park Tool Anti-Seize Compound (which Park Tool specifically recommend for BB threads)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭ARX


    35Nm - be grand
    Copper grease - be grand

    Maybe remove the BB after winter, clean the BB threads and the threads in the bike and use a grease more generally suited for bicycles next time.

    I haven't installed the crankset yet so I think I'll pull out the BB and use grease instead of copper grease.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭cletus


    ARX wrote: »
    I haven't installed the crankset yet so I think I'll pull out the BB and use grease instead of copper grease.

    The teflon you have will be fine. I'd do above too, if I was you. Copper grease doesn't really offer lubrication, it's an anti-seize. It gets used in applications where two surfaces are mated, but not moving in relation to each other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭ARX


    cletus wrote: »
    The teflon you have will be fine. I'd do above too, if I was you. Copper grease doesn't really offer lubrication, it's an anti-seize. It gets used in applications where two surfaces are mated, but not moving in relation to each other
    Thanks. Just to be clear, I'm not using it to lubricate the bearings, I put it on the BB threads to stop it seizing in the frame. I didn't know that copper grease can attack seals so that's reason enough not to use it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ARX wrote: »
    I don't have any poly grease but I have Finish Line Teflon Grease - would that do the job, or would I be better getting Park Tool Anti-Seize Compound (which Park Tool specifically recommend for BB threads)?

    Use that finish line stuff

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    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭cletus


    ARX wrote: »
    Thanks. Just to be clear, I'm not using it to lubricate the bearings, I put it on the BB threads to stop it seizing in the frame. I didn't know that copper grease can attack seals so that's reason enough not to use it.

    Sorry, I assumed it was for lubrication. There's conflicting thoughts on the damage that copper grease can do, but mostly the damage refers to rubber o rings and such, suggestions are that it can make them swell.

    At the end of the day, though, it was specifically designed for use in high temp situations. No real need for it on a bike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭wowy


    Strange query re. Ultegra 8020 hydraulic disc brakes. Hope you can follow the explanation, I'd upload a video if I knew how to.

    Due to my childlike-sized small hands, I've reduced the reach on the levers so I can use them when on the drops. Because the reach has been reduced, there's a bit of "play" (for want of a better term) forward in the levers (in that I can push the lever forward away from the drops to its fully extended reach, and it will then pop back to its new setting).

    The other day I was taking it easy freewheeling down a slight descent, and I was leaning on the top of the hoods. Mindlessly I pulled back on the top part of the lever which pushed the lever forward, just a bit mindless as I knew it did nothing. However, the bike definitely took off a bit, without any additional pedalling or change in gradient. A few more tests and it definitely seemed that pushing the lever forward back to its original fully-extended reach seemed to reduce resistance a small amount.

    The discs aren't rubbing. The shop put on new pads about 2 months ago when I had it serviced, and I presume the rest of the system was simultaneously checked to be in order. When I test it off the bike and push the levers forward, the calipers don't move.

    I obviously can't adjust the reach back to its original setting. As a test, I did loosen the free-stroke adjustment marginally (from the fully-tightened setting) but that didn't seem to make any noticeable difference (in that, it still felt like pushing the lever forward reduced resistance).

    Has anyone encountered something like this?

    I don't think it's fluid-related, as the brakes work well (aside from annoying squeaking) and there's no sponginess in the lever.

    It might be an issue that the brakes do rub slightly when I'm on the bike, but if that's the case I couldn't see how pushing the levers out would adjust the calipers to reduce resistance in that instance, but not adjust the calipers when I'm not on the bike.

    It's not a huge issue, but if I could get those extra few watts it's costing me back for free, that'd be very handy as I've a few 300km+ spins coming up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Anyone any experience with bolts stuck in carbon frames?

    2 mount bottles for a bottle cage won't budge and they're a bit round out now.

    Its a 2nd hand frame, but otherwise pretty immaculate and would be a very expensive mistake to get it wrong.
    I'd go at my other stell frames with a drill comfortable enough

    I had a similar issue last week (and a few times before also)

    Assuming you’ve soaked in penetrating fluid and bottle cages have been removed, try clamping a vise grips on the head of the bolt. If you can get enough purchase on the bolt, you may be able to free it from the mount, turning anti-clockwise.

    If bottle cages are still installed, you may have to sacrifice them and destroy them in order to give you access to the bolts.

    You could drill through the middle of the bolt with a small drill bit (between 2-3mm) then drill with progressively bigger bits in small increments (say 3.5,4,4.3,5mm....) once you get close to having the entire bolt drilled out, the remaining material should fall away and your mount will be useable again.

    You may find that the rivnut (mounts) come loose and spin in the frame. But that’s not a major issue and can be solved cheaply if needs be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭cletus


    If you're going to try a visegrips on the bolt head, I'd file a couple of flats first, for better purchase.


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