The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

eagle eye wrote: »

You didn't need to mention the racist bit, just the name of the pal he hired.
It's a tactic I've seen you use many times to dirty things up.

Wow, you're really on a serious one today. I have really no idea what these imaginary 'tactics' are that you mention but feel free to keep making stuff up.

I'd be surprised if many here know the names of the S&C coaches for their own team, forget about the name of one hired for 10 minutes by the Jags. Why should I go to the effort of looking up the guy's name and then vaguely refer to the relevant issue in a way which most of the posters would have to then go and search to understand? It isn't my job to skirt around certain subjects because they make you feel uncomfortable.

The guy has one claim to fame and that happens to be the same thing that caused a distraction for the Jags, which is the same thing that caused them split from him - his history of racism.

eagle eye wrote: »

The guy was strength and conditioning coach for Iowa for 20+ years.
It's not like he was clueless or had been out of work for years.

How you can compare that in any way to the signing of Tebow, well it's a huge reach.

50+ current and formers players came out publicly complaining about racism in that building, with most of the focus being on actions by Doyle. A lawsuit against him by a few players based on their allegations is moving through the courts.

I am not comparing them, we are talking about distractions and I simply pointed to another relevant example of Meyer bringing one into the building a few months ago.

This is a very basic concept, I don't know why you continue to struggle with it. Another example would be saying that Meyer has a history of ignoring character concerns and citing Doyle and Hernandez. This wouldn't mean I am implying Doyle is a murderer or Hernandez was racist - they are simply two distinct examples of Meyer ignoring that specific issue.

I think I can safely say that no one is interested in discussing your lack of comprehension or attempts to feign being offended so I will not be continuing this further.

Mysterypunter wrote: »

The one thing that stands out about this Tim Tebow signing is how the hell did it happen. He hasn't played for 8 years, and when he did he was a quarterback with a less than 50% completion percentage. He wasn't very good, has he suddenly become an nfl tight end? Damian Woody was on espn earlier and said its a whole bunch of nonsense. The first time anyone has said it, but it's true. I would equate it to a youtuber fighting Floyd Mayweather, Mayweather will be pulling his punches, otherwise he would kill him, its professional sport, no room for sentiment

It’s a bizarre signing, and he probably won’t get on the field after it all.

eagle eye wrote: »

This isn't anything like a YouTuber taking on a top class fighter. He's blocked before, he's played professional football at the highest level including a playoff win.
He might be playing a different position and he is old in football terms but we know he's kept himself in shape.
The way you are going on Antonio Gates should never have been drafted.

And he's not racist. Let's make that very clear.

Mysterypunter wrote: »

The one thing that stands out about this Tim Tebow signing is how the hell did it happen.

I think we all know why.

There's zero chance Tebow would be in the league again if it wasn't for his friend and old head coach Urban Meyer wanting to give him a second chance - probably as a favour for all the success Tebow brought Meyer in their previous life.

I would say it's likely that it doesn't work out, however I would also repeat that having Tebow as a 3rd or 4th string TE isn't the worst option the world due to the potential gimmick plays he would give you as a H-back. I can see why he may be more valuable than any other standard 4th string TE in that regard.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2021/5/30/22461050/nfl-new-player-cut-down-schedule-for-the-2021-off-season-chicago-bears-preseason-player-release

New set up where the teams will have to cut down their roster by a certain number of players each week after preseason games. Don't suppose it'll make much difference to most fans but I was just thinking it might add some drama to hard knocks. Could be a nightmare for them if all the bubble guys they decide to focus on at the start get cut and they haven't really been paying attention to others. But more likely there's just more drama to the early episodes which often get a bit tedious.

eagle eye wrote: »

Isn't that just going back to the way things were before last year?

I stand to be corrected on this but I don't think they had a situation where teams had to cut down so many times (5 players after first pre season, 5 again after the second, and then the remainder after the third). Looking at it now it seems completely unnecessary, but might squeeze a few more stories into the news cycle during the pre season. One rationale in the article I linked was that it would help teams build a practice squad over a number of weeks. I dunno.


Rosters must be cut down to 85 players by Aug. 17, 80 players by Aug. 24 and 53 players by Aug. 31

el Fenomeno wrote: »

The USFL is now relaunching next year also.

https://www.foxsports.com/presspass/latest-news/2021/06/03/united-states-football-league-returns-2022

There are some great stories from this league in its first iteration.

My favourite was when Chicago traded their entire roster to Arizona in return for their entire roster, because the Arizona owner was a Chicago fan who failed to acquire the team.

Chiacgo then immediately traded 21 of those former Arizona players to Memphis for a late round draft pick.

Memphis then immediately cut 20 of them without telling them

And it was doing so well until that well reknowned business man, Donald Trump insisted on going head to head with the NFL rather than stay as a spring league.

And then it predictably crashed.

I wonder what happened him?

It's also easy to note who has and hasn't been vaccinated. It's been a popular question this week, and there's been plenty of "It's a personal decision, I don't want to say" answers

Blut2 wrote: »

I wonder how many players will just fake evidence of having been vaccinated to avoid being subject to all of that. The CDC vaccination card is downloadable in easily printable PDF form from plenty of websites, using fake ones as proof of being vaccinated is a big thing at the moment.

I have the CDC vax card, it is completely unlaminated, it's the size of a queue card, it's signed with a little scribble by whatever random fireman or whoever gave me the injection, they are completely useless as any kind of proof of anything, and my sense when I first got it after the first shot was its sole purpose was administering the second shot (because it says when you got the first and which vaccine it was). Faking it will be ridiculously easy if that's the only proof they're using.

They did issue a QR code when you got the appointment and scanned it when you got each shot, so I guess that could be the basis for a more robust system. Not sure if you could compel people to sign up to sharing that information though.