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Superintending 2021

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  • #182
    deiseindublin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Hopefully they are. That's fairly on the ball communication wise. If one poster here missed it I'm sure others did too.

    Go SEC.


  • #183
    Random sample
    Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Random sample


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    The SEC might be keeping an eye on this thread as they just sent us all a letter clarifying this specific point about the box.

    I wonder has this issue come up on VFT? The volume of questions there on superintending is astounding. And the number of people giving information that is classified out on a public page under their real name is shocking me too.


  • #184
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    There are a couple of contradictions in the instructions when working between the three booklets. Mostly minor but still, they are there. Probably caused by the three pickup days situation causing revisions.


  • #185
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users Posts: 15,381 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Random sample wrote: »
    I wonder has this issue come up on VFT? The volume of questions there on superintending is astounding. And the number of people giving information that is classified out on a public page under their real name is shocking me too.

    The amount of idiots that post on VFT is astounding. Stopped following it a couple of years ago.


  • #186
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    ccazza wrote: »
    The examinations aide will give you the projects which you include with the candidates scripts.

    Thanks

    What happens to a geography project belonging to a student who doesn’t show up?


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  • #187
    gaiscioch
    Registered Users Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭gaiscioch


    Also a contradiction on Form E.10A, the green booklet with 'Liosta Shíniú d'Iarrthóirí Seachtracha' but the English translation is just 'Signature List for Candidates'. Throughout, the English says "All candidates" but the Irish says "Iarrthóirí seachtracha" (external candidates).

    I'm getting each candidate to sign it at each exam, ar eagla na heagla.


  • #188
    Tiredteach
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭Tiredteach


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    Thanks

    What happens to a geography project belonging to a student who doesn’t show up?

    You include it anyway. They still get that percentage for the project. ( and the assessed grade too).


  • #189
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Tiredteach wrote: »
    You include it anyway. They still get that percentage for the project. ( and the assessed grade too).

    Thanks, sorted it this morning.


  • #190
    Tiredteach
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭Tiredteach


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    Also a contradiction on Form E.10A, the green booklet with 'Liosta Shíniú d'Iarrthóirí Seachtracha' but the English translation is just 'Signature List for Candidates'. Throughout, the English says "All candidates" but the Irish says "Iarrthóirí seachtracha" (external candidates).

    I'm getting each candidate to sign it at each exam, ar eagla na heagla.

    Your right that’s only for externals but good on you for following the mistake :)!!


  • #191
    wolfyboy555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Tiredteach wrote: »
    You include it anyway. They still get that percentage for the project. ( and the assessed grade too).

    Day to day instructions says to only return coursework if the student has sat the exam or if they have not sat the exam but were listed on the advice list.


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  • #192
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    gaiscioch wrote:
    I'm getting each candidate to sign it at each exam, ar eagla na heagla.

    I am too. It's my only real proof of who was there.


  • #193
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    wolfyboy555 wrote: »
    Day to day instructions says to only return coursework if the student has sat the exam or if they have not sat the exam but were listed on the advice list.

    Ya if they’re on the advice list you send it back regardless of whether they show up or not. If they let not on the advice list hold them in the school.


  • #194
    Enright
    Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Enright


    Re geography: On the instructions, only accept projects from students actually sitting the exam, extras hand back to the exam aide


  • #195
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Enright wrote: »
    Re geography: On the instructions, only accept projects from students actually sitting the exam, extras hand back to the exam aide

    I called this morning and was told by the SEC to send coursework back for students who are listed on the advice list regardless of whether they completed the exam or not.

    The superintendents here seemed to have gathered the same info when I relayed it.


  • #196
    wolfyboy555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    spurious wrote: »
    I am too. It's my only real proof of who was there.

    The centre roll and advice lists track who was present no?


  • #197
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    wolfyboy555 wrote: »
    The centre roll and advice lists track who was present no?

    The advice lists yes, but this is a signature....just in case.

    I think the schools I taught in have made me suspicious and untrusting. I am superintending in a lovely school with super polite children. It's a little bit like the Stepford wives for me that was used to people bringing in hammers and knives.

    We had one day where two parents came in and kicked the doors in along the top corridor looking for some young one who had slagged one of their young fellas. I can laugh now, but it was quite scary.


  • #198
    Alex86Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭Alex86Eire


    What are people doing with the used question papers? I know the unused ones go back into the stationery box. I have a pile of question papers that students used/wrote notes on/highlighted etc that they would have handed up with their answer booklet if they left an exam early.

    I'm just wondering what people are doing with theirs. Our coordinator isn't sure.


  • #199
    Aquals
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭Aquals


    Once the end of the exam has passed, you can do whatever you like with them at that stage as far as I know.

    In the school I'm in, we leave them into the staffroom, as some teachers use the material for future class tests, and the CDs (eg. for Irish) or the aerial photographs (eg. for Geography) come in useful.


  • #200
    Aquals
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭Aquals


    Did anyone receive a form where you sign to say that you did the online training etc? Some superintendents in our school received it but most did not!


  • #201
    Alex86Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭Alex86Eire


    Aquals wrote: »
    Did anyone receive a form where you sign to say that you did the online training etc? Some superintendents in our school received it but most did not!

    Nobody in my centre anyway.


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  • #202
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Got it in my pack and got another when I collected the second batch of papers.


  • #203
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users Posts: 15,381 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Aquals wrote: »
    Did anyone receive a form where you sign to say that you did the online training etc? Some superintendents in our school received it but most did not!

    No, I only got the one that said the box was checked after collection.


  • #204
    Aquals
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭Aquals


    Thanks for the replies guys. I phoned them today and they emailed me out the form to print.

    There is something missing, for me anyway, every year!!


  • #205
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    rainbowtrout wrote:
    No, I only got the one that said the box was checked after collection.

    Does it not have a line at the top of that one about the training? Colour images on form, three spaces to sign about about checking?


  • #206
    sitstill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭sitstill


    spurious wrote: »
    Does it not have a line at the top of that one about the training? Colour images on form, three spaces to sign about about checking?

    Yeah it does!


  • #207
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users Posts: 15,381 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    spurious wrote: »
    Does it not have a line at the top of that one about the training? Colour images on form, three spaces to sign about about checking?

    I have mine posted back, got it signed the first day so didn’t look at it since


  • #208
    Aquals
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭Aquals


    They told me to post it back to the financial section with my form of account. But, sure they must be used to various forms coming back in the wrong envelopes etc. They don't exactly make things clear!!


  • #209
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    For those that superintend regularly, is there any sort of advance, as there is for examining?


  • #210
    mtoutlemonde
    Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    spurious wrote: »
    For those that superintend regularly, is there any sort of advance, as there is for examining?

    In the past, there was but that was used to pay the attendant but the school is paying them now.


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  • #211
    Random sample
    Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Random sample


    spurious wrote: »
    For those that superintend regularly, is there any sort of advance, as there is for examining?

    There doesn’t seem to be an advance for marking this year either, just FYI!


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