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General England News Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    He was a teenager, but an adult he was 18.... it’s an investigation that will probably lead to an apology and a bit of damage limitation...nothing much beyond.

    The ECB have to act, if a journalist highlighted the comments and the ECB didn’t act / investigate it would look as if they didn’t view the matter seriously... still not great from Robinson 18 or otherwise... 18 year olds shouldn’t get hall passes due to their age when it comes to spewing that sort of hokey bile.

    That said, he or his manager should have been savvy when he was making inroads into his sporting career... done a quick audit to make sure any skeletons such as these comments on Twitter were deleted.

    Going to cost the fella a bit of cash as I’m sure the likes of sponsors will be giving him a wide berth for the foreseeable anyway...


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    As per sky news...A second player being investigated for historical tweets...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,972 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I don't think anyone is going to get picked for England again without having their social media accounts trawled through by the ECB first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Wisden and a lot of the other cricket media cannot get enough of this. Christmas and birthday come all at once. Like with the ECB and everyone else enjoying this, it's totally self serving. If the timing of the actual tweets, the timing of them resurfacing and watching him having to apologise changes nothing for you, you still want punishment, then you need to look at yourself too and pray the mob doesn't come after you someday.

    I want to state that this is only contentious due to when the tweets happened and how everything played out last week. That's why I have sympathy for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I don't think anyone is going to get picked for England again without having their social media accounts trawled through by the ECB first.

    Mad isnt it... the ECB will probably be hiring a media company to do background checks at this rate....before they select a squad..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Should be happening earlier at county level although I expect players will be doing it themselves after this. Hopefully done before the gutter media has a chance to screenshot them and hold them until they play an international game.

    I read Dom Bess has deleted his account leading people to believe he's the other player. Just been added to the squad too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,912 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    morgan, anderson, butler, mc cullum all have old tweets dug up. what a mess.

    anderson: 'I saw Broady's new haircut for the first time today. Not sure about it. Thought he looked like a 15 yr old lesbian!'

    couldnt find the tweets by the other lads but are under investigation from ECB


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,153 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    morgan, anderson, butler, mc cullum all have old tweets dug up. what a mess.

    anderson: 'I saw Broady's new haircut for the first time today. Not sure about it. Thought he looked like a 15 yr old lesbian!'

    couldnt find the tweets by the other lads but are under investigation from ECB

    Anderson wasn't a teenager when he posted it, he was already a senior England player.

    Very easy to take action against a novice like Robinson, be interesting to see will an icon get off easy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    morgan, anderson, butler, mc cullum all have old tweets dug up. what a mess.

    anderson: 'I saw Broady's new haircut for the first time today. Not sure about it. Thought he looked like a 15 yr old lesbian!'

    couldnt find the tweets by the other lads but are under investigation from ECB

    Seriously?? That's it? FFs what sort of a fcuking idiot is offended by that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    This is insane who cares if a cricketer posted stupid tweets 10 years ago? How does that affect anyone in the here and now? What does it matter that a cricketer was an idiot when he was 18? Why does it matter to anyone that a cricketer might not have the best political views? Or tells racist jokes? or has had risky banter with mates? Why does it matter? Why does anyone care?

    Why can't the ECB just say we don't care about old tweets we care about cricket ability?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Jerry Attrick


    England won the toss and are batting against the Kiwis who, surprisingly, have made 6 changes to their team, only some being injury-related. Boult replaces Southee.

    Record no. of test caps for Anderson, 162.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Williamson, Watling and Southee just at a glance missing for NZ.. 6 changes in total though jeez... you’d have to say not even close to ideal having to change more then half your test side.. English be favorites


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    A very slow start by England’s batsmen... 21 runs scored after 10 overs.... watchful would be the term... NZ not really threatening either, one lbw shout that was turned down because of an inside edge...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Jerry Attrick


    63 runs after 25 overs in 104 minutes. Acceptable for day 1 of a test.

    Amusing to see that Sibley's run rate is higher than that of Burns!

    Immediately after lunch Sibley goes 72 - 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Not the end of the world but in modern cricket you’d be used to and expect to be seeing 90-110 runs scored in the first session in these conditions... it’s likely that when lunch will be called in about 2 minutes England will have scored about 70 runs give or take. If they are giving up 20 runs a session that’s 60 runs in a days play...run rate of 2.5 is conservative. First session or otherwise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Run rate chat in the first session of a test match makes no sense to me. No wickets down is all that matters. Crawley and Root will be loving this. Ball will be softer and bowlers tired when they get to bat.

    NZ are there for the taking, big drop off in the attack with all the changes. Runs will flow more freely as the day goes on if England don't mess it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    It’s certainly a bonus to get in at lunch no wickets down... there was only the lbw shout to cause any concern but given that the scoring by English batsmen in general has been suspect recently...Only once in their last 6 innings have the got over 250.. it’s fair to comment when they are not getting fluid runs... sessions not scoring is taking time out of the game. 2.3 runs an over, need to pick it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    New Zealand pick up sibleys wicket with a pretty average delivery.. he just hung the bat outside off and the ball clips the edge... pointless shot, he was defending fresh air as the ball wouldn’t have been anywhere near clipping the stumps...

    Crawley gone now as I’m typing..another disappointing effort, in fact a rank poor shot for any level of cricket he just hung the bat out, ball hits it, slip fielder poaches it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Jerry Attrick


    And there goes Root!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Classic England. Three down cheaply more often than not no matter what approach they take.

    Better bowling from New Zealand it has to be said. A lot less rubbish, way more threatening than the first session.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Very cheap wickets jeez the New Zealand lads havent exactly been bowling great..Englsnd have been the architects of their own downfall largly...they will need Burns to hang around, in fact they need this partnership to add a 100 to the total here to post a competitive score.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Another absolutely horrible shot by Pope and he’s heading to the pavilion with only a very modest score to his name... a horrible shot to what was a pretty poor wide long hop that should have been destination boundary.. instead Pope is destination England dressing room...poor stuff.

    Lawrence then saved by about a centimeter ,a dreadful shot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Lawrence needed this 50 to have a shot of playing the India series. Really talented batsman, early still he looks to have the temperament for this level.

    Worry about Pope in that regard. Too many pretty starts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    A run rate of 2.8 runs per over... hmmmmm


    Another fairly shocking piece of umpiring... nowhere near lbw and even further away from the bat having been given out caught behind, dreadful umpiring again, going about 3 inches over the stumps and the same away from the bat.

    These numpires really need to focus on seeing and knowing if a batsman is out as opposed having a feeling or thinking they probably are..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    There was one lbw review that was closer than the third umpire said it was. It was those impossible ones where the ball, bat and pad all meet at the same moment and he rushed it I felt. Pad first I thought but you'd get a headache looking at it.

    New Zealand's day probably although England have something to play with and more possible. They have Stone and Wood to thank for hanging around with Dan Lawrence. Not only hang around but scored runs too. Wood looked very good. Lawrence on 67, is a hundred possible. I'd like to see him do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Jerry Attrick


    England got to 303. "Syd" 81 no.

    Kiwis are currently 60-1 from 20. Root having dropped the kind of catch that a blind man with two amputated hands would have held.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    England got to 303. "Syd" 81 no.

    Kiwis are currently 60-1 from 20. Root having dropped the kind of catch that a blind man with two amputated hands would have held.

    Yep, a dolly of a catch, nice height and right in his bread basket and he only needed to move a foot to the right...Root is normally a very reliable slip fielder to be fair though.... still should have pouched that one, not a difficult chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Jerry Attrick


    Conway gone for 80. Gave it away with a one-day flick. He's furious. NZ 138/2/48

    Thus far, Root's drop has cost England 37 runs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Think the first two sessions will go a ways to deciding the result tomorrow... weather set absolutely fair for the remainder of the test...if England don’t take a minimum of three wickets in the morning they’ll be on the back foot. New Zealand end up with a lead of 130 it’s going to be difficult going....

    Lawrence taking Young’s wicket at the death could be massive


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    NZ batsmen look confident and organized in defense and putting the odd bad delivery to the sword with accuracy, they’ll be happy with their mornings work so far...34 minutes of play into day 3... on the cusp of drawing level with England’s first innings score and 7 wickets in hand, they’ll be salivating at the prospect of at least a 150 run lead here...Broad and Anderson not giving much away but not at all threatening.


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