3 month old baby killed by dog

archfi · 07-06-2021 11:13am #1

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0607/1226428-waterford-baby-death/

RIP to the infant and I would not be able to imagine what the parents and family of the baby will be going through right now.

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I have no idea of the circumstances of this tragic death.

I don't believe that dogs can ever be trusted 100% especially around babies and children and that is not to say I hate dogs, I do not.

Ten of Swords wrote: »

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A reminder to all posters to be respectful and use some common sense. This is a horrible tragic event and those closest to it could potentially read some of these comments.

There will be zero tolerance on baseless speculation

The Mighty Quinn · 07-06-2021 11:16am

Saw that story l earlier alright and it gave me a chill.

I've a 15 month old, a 1 month old and two medium sized dogs.

We try to be careful with them, but this sad story really underlines it for me.

So sad. I don't know how you'd cope with that.

TefalBrain · 07-06-2021 11:23am

Tragic, R.I.P to the child.

Comments about the general lack of responsibility from as the OP puts it the majority of dog owners are inaccurate and unhelpful.

archfi · 07-06-2021 11:27am

TefalBrain wrote: »

Tragic, R.I.P to the child.

Comments about the general lack of responsibility from as the OP puts it the majority of dog owners are inaccurate and unhelpful.

Yeah, I'll strike out the 'majority' bit in my post as you're right, I simply couldn't know that (even though I put IMO there)

Darc19 · 07-06-2021 11:30am

Very sad but no reason for knee jerk reactions.

The number of children killed by dogs is miniscule, and whilst one is one too many, you could argue against cars being on the road as a lot more are killed in road accidents.

I think we have 3 cases in the last ten years, but because it attracts a lot of media attention, it can seem to be a lot more.

So let's stop scaremongering or in the case of one poster jumping to conclusions on a party. ( Utterly ridiculous)

This is a very sad time for the extended family.

lawred2 · 07-06-2021 11:31am

With some breeds 100% supervision would still be pointless. They could do enough damage in the moments it would take to react to easily kill a child. Nevermind a three month old.

Think people are crazy personally to mix dogs with children but my thoughts are irrelevant really.

RIP

walshb · 07-06-2021 11:32am

lawred2 wrote: »

With some breeds 100% supervision would still be a pointless. They could do enough damage in the moments it would take to react to easily kill a child. Nevermind a three month old.

Think people are crazy personally to mix dogs with children but my thoughts are irrelevant really.

RIP

Yes. Even with supervision, the bigger and more powerful the dog, it can do so much damage so quickly, and to stop it would take real effort..

suicide_circus · 07-06-2021 11:49am

Poor little mite, may she rest in peace.

07-06-2021 11:52am

Do we really need a thread for this when the poor little child isn't even gone 12 hours..

07-06-2021 11:55am

Jacksie66. wrote: »

Do we really need a thread for this when the poor little child isn't even gone 12 hours..

It wouldn't be a current affair if the thread was created later.

Flippyfloppy · 07-06-2021 11:56am

Jacksie66. wrote: »

Do we really need a thread for this when the poor little child isn't even gone 12 hours..

Agreed. We all know it will descend into bickering about dangerous dogs shortly.

Rip little one.

MintyMagnum · 07-06-2021 12:18pm

Sadly it reminds me of the case of a week old baby killed by the family jack Russell a few years back in the U.K. Unfortunately the size of dog doesn't really matter. R.I.P. Both babies.

Iscreamkone · 07-06-2021 12:23pm

In my opinion the dog owner is responsible for the dogs actions. If the dog kills then that is manslaughter every time.

Stihl waters · 07-06-2021 12:24pm

RIP kid, you got no chance at living at all

Ten of Swords · 07-06-2021 12:26pm

A reminder to all posters to be respectful and use some common sense. This is a horrible tragic event and those closest to it could potentially read some of these comments.

walshb wrote: »

I hope to god this wasn’t some party buzz

Shouldnt have to say this but there will be zero tolerance on baseless speculation

Jacksie66. wrote: »

Do we really need a thread for this when the poor little child isn't even gone 12 hours..

Its in the news, it's going to be discussed. If you dont wish to participate then best to give the thread a miss

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

We all know it will descend into bickering about dangerous dogs shortly

No, it won't

NIMAN · 07-06-2021 12:31pm

Hard to hear news like this.
Poor child. Terrible way to die.

Family must be in total shock. Hope they find the strength to deal with this.

spakman · 07-06-2021 12:36pm

Iscreamkone wrote: »

In my opinion the dog owner is responsible for the dogs actions. If the dog kills then that is manslaughter every time.

If the dog kills it's owner, is it suicide?

Iscreamkone · 07-06-2021 12:52pm

spakman wrote: »

If the dog kills it's owner, is it suicide?

Probably not. Just stupidity.

TheValeyard · 07-06-2021 12:54pm

RIP to the little angel.

Horrific news.

BabysCoffee · 07-06-2021 12:56pm

Very tragic. RIP little one

grassylawn · 07-06-2021 12:57pm

I wonder what breed it was. It doesn't seem to be mentioned in any reports yet.

Dempo1 · 07-06-2021 12:58pm

archfi wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0607/1226428-waterford-baby-death/

RIP to the infant and I would not be able to imagine what the parents and family of the baby will be going through right now.

No doubt, this will reignite the general debate about having dogs and children in close proximity and the general lack of responsibility some dog owners have - ie, no training of dogs and indeed kids in how to behave around dogs.
I have no idea of the circumstances of this tragic death.

I don't believe that dogs can ever be trusted 100% especially around babies and children and that is not to say I hate dogs, I do not.

Just an awful Tragedy, words escape me. RIP and condolences to the family involved.

Locotastic · 07-06-2021 1:02pm

grassylawn wrote: »

I wonder what breed it was. It doesn't seem to be mentioned in any reports yet.

Doesn't really matter, any breed of dog could seriously injure a sleeping little baby even without intending to.

Immortal Starlight · 07-06-2021 1:48pm

This little baby girls death is such a horrible awful event to hear about. I’m so sorry for the baby and family. I’ve never been easy with the idea of dogs and babies being in close proximity. There’s just no way of knowing if anything will go wrong.

Ms. Newbie18 · 07-06-2021 1:52pm

RIP little angle. Heart broken reading that story.

Muahahaha · 07-06-2021 1:58pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You’re certainly right to always supervise the dog around infants - if you look at the list of fatal dog attacks in the UK, for instance, a number relate to very small infants.
I know a lot of factors come into play but it’s not worth taking any risks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

That link is chilling reading even though death from dog attacks are pretty rare. This case stood out as the neighbour reported the dog, police seized it but then returned it and it then went on to kill him a week later

Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England – Victim and his smaller pet dog were attacked when his neighbour's five-year-old dog got out of its pen. Two months prior, victim reported the dog to the council, fearing it was a pit bull terrier and might attack. Police seized the dog but returned it to its owner a week before the fatal attack after deciding it was not a banned breed per Section 1 of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991. Victim suffered a sustained attacked and the dog was still mauling him when police arrived. The dog's owner was jailed for 10 years after he was convicted of owning a dog dangerously out of control causing injury resulting in death. He had failed to comply with an order to muzzle and restrain the dog, which had a history of attacking neighbours

There is also two recent cases there of dog owners having epileptic seizures and their dog attacking them during it. In one case the dog, a staffy bull terrier, was later found to have cocaine and morphine in its system.

A common thread through a good few cases is the dog had bitten humans or attacked other dogs/cats before going on to kill someone. Owners seemed oblivious to the warning signs.

kildare lad · 07-06-2021 1:59pm

Such a tragic case , you just can't be to careful around animals . A friend of mine had a rottweiler, when the baby came along everytime the rottweiler was around the baby it's hair used to stand up on its back . So he had to get rid of the dog , you just can't take the risk . You see idiots on YouTube filming there babies pulling out dogs thinking it's hilarious or cute. Some people need their heads examined.

xhomelezz · 07-06-2021 2:02pm

Very sad story, can't imagine what are parents of the baby coming through right now.

Always had a dog in my life, love them and if they are raised right and with love, they give it back and become part of the family.

This is very old pic of my doggie and my older son, never had to be afraid to leave them two alone.

Sleeper12 · 07-06-2021 2:06pm

R.I.P must be a terrible time for the family

KaneToad · 07-06-2021 2:07pm

I don't know anything about this current case.

I frequently see Tiktok videos of people 'introducing' their babies to the dog. Followed by montages of both curled up together asleep, rolling on the floor playing etc..

Without any hint of hyperbole, I think there is a role for social services to investigate in these instances. There is no safe dog when it comes to helpless infants. The guardians of the children are doing then a great disservice.

KaneToad · 07-06-2021 2:08pm

xhomelezz wrote: »

Very sad story, can't imagine what are parents of the baby coming through right now.

Always had a dog in my life, love them and if they are raised right and with love, they give it back and become part of the family.

This is very old pic of my doggie and my older son, never had to be afraid to leave them two alone.

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