The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Maybe he's being looked at more as a FB than pass catching TE. His physicality would lend itself to that. Taysom Hill basically had the career he should've had, albeit Hill is a much better passer.

Taysom Hill is the exact goal for Tebow you'd imagine. If Hill managed to make the transition from sub-par QB with an unusual age/career profile to athletic gadget/utility back theres no glaring reason Tebow can't do the exact same.

Its not great odds mind you, but its a reasonable punt given his cheap cost, pre-existing experience with the coaching team and very marketable local connections.

Blut2 wrote: »

Taysom Hill is the exact goal for Tebow you'd imagine. If Hill managed to make the transition from sub-par QB with an unusual age/career profile to athletic gadget/utility back theres no glaring reason Tebow can't do the exact same.

Its not great odds mind you, but its a reasonable punt given his cheap cost, pre-existing experience with the coaching team and very marketable local connections.

Tebow being 34 at the start of the season after being out of the game for several years seems like a glaring reason. Hill transitioning to that utility role in game shape quite soon out of college is a completely different situation.

Your post makes it appear like this is a low risk high reward move which completely ignores potential team morale impact of a guy being handed a place on the team and the massive distraction Tebow is already and will continue to be. Distraction was rolled out over and over as justification for teams not to sign Kaepernick.

I was very skeptical about the Meyer appointment and everything he has done so far has lead me to be even more skeptical.

Nfl network is reporting that Aaron Rodgers is expected to speak publicly tonight. They didn’t say where though. He hasn’t attended the packers OTAs which isn’t a big shock.

Blut2 wrote: »

To be fair I may have phrased that badly. I don't disagree that its very unlikely to work out - I wouldn't give it more than 5% odds of him pulling it off.

But I just don't buy the massive downside to it. Tebow isn't Antonio Brown, hes by all accounts that I've seen a very good influence in camp. So I can't see him destroying team morale. And they can always cut him before the season kicks off, so he doesn't take up a valuable squad position. And they'll have generated a load of buzz, and apparently a huge amount of merchandise sales, and given something odd a chance before then.

Aren't all merchandise sales split between all teams? Pretty sure it is treated the same as TV revenue. Sure, he might increase local sponsorship but that is relative pennies.

Agree he isn't AB but he is still a distraction. Players will get frustrated by all the media attention and questions being asked about a guy who wouldn't be near the initial squad if he wasn't mates with the coach and/or had such a 'brand'. Their whole offseason is going to be focused on Tebow and then whether he is or isn't picked. Even if he steps up as a 'leader' as some claim, surely you want that leadership focus to be on your rookie QB, not a guy who is potentially going to be cut. Nearly every top coach speaks about reducing noise from the outside and all they've done is bring a massive amount for a tiny chance of a small reward.

By far the biggest winner out of this is Tebow - he can't lose and will be cashing in even more for years to come.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Nfl network is reporting that Aaron Rodgers is expected to speak publicly tonight. They didn’t say where though. He hasn’t attended the packers OTAs which isn’t a big shock.

ESPN I doubt his going to say anything only some cryptic clue which leads to a whole pile nothing.

Barney92 wrote: »

It could be a shrewd move to keep publicity away from Lawrence for as much as possible whilst he's still getting the hang of things over the summer.

That idea crossed my mind when it happened but I don't buy it. If Lawrence craps the bed in camp that'll still be the story, if things are going as expected it doesn't help Lawrence to be asked constantly about Tebow.

Again, it goes against everything every top coach I've heard say.

eagle eye wrote: »

The other great thing Tebow brings is leadership and inspiration. You could see that in Denver with what the players there said about him.

When Tebow was a starting QB that made sense but now I can't see a shred of logic to this point. Why do you want an at best roster bubble level TE who has never played his position coming in and trying to grab attention and be a 'leader'? What makes it even worse is when you have a rookie QB trying to win over a locker room.

The only thing Tebow 'inspires' is how good it is to have friends in high places (like the racist conditioning coach that Meyer hired earlier in the offseason)

Foxtrol wrote: »

That idea crossed my mind when it happened but I don't buy it. If Lawrence craps the bed in camp that'll still be the story, if things are going as expected it doesn't help Lawrence to be asked constantly about Tebow.

Again, it goes against everything every top coach I've heard say.



When Tebow was a starting QB that made sense but now I can't see a shred of logic to this point. Why do you want an at best roster bubble level TE who has never played his position coming in and trying to grab attention and be a 'leader'? What makes it even worse is when you have a rookie QB trying to win over a locker room.

The only thing Tebow 'inspires' is how good it is to have friends in high places (like the racist conditioning coach that Meyer hired earlier in the offseason)

In fairness Tebow hasn't done anything this time around. However some like yourself want nothing more than to talk about him.

You can and should be a leader from any position. Put in the work, bring everything to training. Tebow sounds like a dose but I have never heard anything against his work ethic.

I sincerely doubt Lawrence will be asked about Tebow very much. Reporters should also be able to control what they ask about and be able to ask a sensible question now and then.

As for friends in high places. Yeah, shocker. I am sure Reid's son was involved with Chiefs because of ability. Or half the coaches in the NFL and a few of their favourite project players.

eagle eye wrote: »

He threw it in there, no need for it. Just flinging mud trying to dirty everything up.
It's a tactic he uses quite often.

To read what I posted and to leap to claiming I called Tebow racist shows either a lack of even basic comprehension skills or a continued quest to be constantly offended. Given the fact two posters corrected you and you refuse to accept you were wrong it seems like it is very much the latter.

I 'threw it' in because it is a relevant recent example of Meyer hiring his mates and not considering the downside. All HCs bring in coaches or players they know but rarely do they make these kind of decisions that cause such drama around the team with such small upside. Meyer himself even said afterward the S&C coach left that he 'wasn't worth the distraction' and yet he goes out a few weeks later and seeks out another even bigger distraction.