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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    eagle eye wrote: »
    What happens to the cap hit for Rodgers if he gets traded now?
    I'd imagine not many teams would be able to cover it if they had to take the full hit.

    It gets split June first. That's the time it really will tell if packers are serious about keeping them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,414 ✭✭✭Guffy


    OOnegative wrote: »
    Obviously your thinking Pittsburgh is 1 like myself......

    Delusions :D

    Worst team in AFC North :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    eagle eye wrote: »
    What happens to the cap hit for Rodgers if he gets traded now?
    I'd imagine not many teams would be able to cover it if they had to take the full hit.

    If he is traded post June first the packers take a dead cap hit of $14.3m in 2021 and $17.2m in 2022

    The team trading for him would have a cap hit of $22.8m in 2021 and $25.3m in 2022, though presumably a restructure would be on the cards.

    https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-rodgers/1085/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The schedule was released in full last night and the eagles first six games are dog rough. We got the bucs and the Chiefs and niners in that time. The eagles bye week is week 14. After week 6 I see some reason for hope as most if not all of the teams outside the NFC east that we play are the 1927 New York yankees based on last season. Only two non Sunday games(TNF, SNF, MNF) which isn’t a bad thing. ESPN has the eagles winning 11 games but nothing is decided in mid may of an NFL season and I’ve no idea what they’re basing that on.


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Jasper Fit Pedestrian


    Eagles signed Ryan kerrigan. Excelent signing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    Eagles signed Ryan kerrigan. Excelent signing

    Delighted with that, constantly getting one or two sacks against us Everytime we play them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    D9Male wrote: »
    If he makes the roster, I will eat my hat.

    Would you like salt with that, he signed today, but on a serious note Tebow had 1 pass target in his career, it was a throw from Mark Sanchez that hit him in the face


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Would you like salt with that, he signed today, but on a serious note Tebow had 1 pass target in his career, it was a throw from Mark Sanchez that hit him in the face

    I think he means the final roster, and not the 90 at the start of training camp.

    But I think he will make it given its Meyer's decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Simms was losing it on PFT earlier. He really hates Tebow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Simms was losing it on PFT earlier. He really hates Tebow.

    Hate is probably too strong an emotion for Tim tebow, but I feel he’s getting help that others wouldn’t and a chance others wouldn’t be getting. Him being close to Urban Meyer is the reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Hate is probably too strong an emotion for Tim tebow, but I feel he’s getting help that others wouldn’t and a chance others wouldn’t be getting. Him being close to Urban Meyer is the reason.

    I don't get it. That describes 99% of coaching appointments in the nfl. I doubt Tebow will set the league on fire but let him play, it isn't like there is a glut of star TEs out there.

    I agree many would not get the second chance which is unfair but he is hardly the only one to benefit from previous connections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    A player has literally shot himself in the leg went to jail and been given a second chance.

    Another star player had a dog fighting pit went to jail and got a chance.

    Tebows crime is he's Tebow


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    And that he's not very good and is not a tight end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Christy42 wrote: »
    I don't get it. That describes 99% of coaching appointments in the nfl. I doubt Tebow will set the league on fire but let him play, it isn't like there is a glut of star TEs out there.

    I agree many would not get the second chance which is unfair but he is hardly the only one to benefit from previous connections.

    Most players who get a second chance get that second chance at the position they played at the first time around. Tim tebow is getting a chance at a position, that unless I’ve missed it, has never played before. Hopefully whether he makes the team or not is based solely on his play and not who he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    A player has literally shot himself in the leg went to jail and been given a second chance.

    Another star player had a dog fighting pit went to jail and got a chance.

    Tebows crime is he's Tebow

    No it not that’s he’s Tim tebow, it’s that he’s never played at TE yet gets singed to a team after five years completely out of the game when he played a different position and being honest on the whole didn’t set the world alight when he played QB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    No it not that’s he’s Tim tebow, it’s that he’s never played at TE yet gets singed to a team after five years completely out of the game when he played a different position and being honest on the whole didn’t set the world alight when he played QB.

    He didn't but he was always one of the most ridiculous athletes in the game. Being a ridiculous athlete helps. Getting drafted as a QB to the NFL is hard. Getting drafted without being able to throw the ball is ridiculous.

    His main failings as a QB won't be relevant as a TE. Certainly it would be nice to have spent more time learning blocking and running routes but he isn't the only one to have relearned a new position. I don't see why 5 years completely out of the game makes a difference. He kept in shape and is learning a new position in any case.

    Plenty of people have been out of the game for a few years. Plenty of people have changed positions. Doing both is a bit ambitious but hardly out of the realms of possibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,925 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    adrian522 wrote:
    And that he's not very good and is not a tight end.


    How do you know what he's like as a tight end? I'd suggest Urban Meyer might know a little more about him than you do.

    Also the obvious thing here is how many fans he brings in. As far as I can remember the Jags struggled to sell tickets, they'll be sold out if he's involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Let's not pretend Tebow has been sitting on his arse for the last few years, or that he's making some dramatic career change like becoming a Tight End after spending years as an accountant or doctor. It's not out of the realms of possibility that he knows how to play the position, or that he can work hard enough at it to give it a real go.

    Most teams have 90 players or thereabouts on their roster currently. That's supposedly the 2,880 best football players in the country already off the market. If Meyer wants to take a flyer on Tebow over some undrafted rookie or some journeyman veteran who can't crack the Top 2,880 list, then I have no problem that.

    It probably won't work out, but if it does then Meyer deserves credit for giving him a shot. I don't think Meyer is expecting the second coming of Gronk or Kelce, but if he makes the roster as a TE or H-Back, there could be some very interesting packages in short yardage or goal-to-go downs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    eagle eye wrote: »
    How do you know what he's like as a tight end? I'd suggest Urban Meyer might know a little more about him than you do.

    Also the obvious thing here is how many fans he brings in. As far as I can remember the Jags struggled to sell tickets, they'll be sold out if he's involved.

    Apparently 5 top selling items today on nflshop are Tim Tebow related.


    Honestly I don't get this in either direction. It is a tight end on league minimum. If it works out great, we get a cheap tight end with some interesting packages. If it doesn't who cares, just cut him. However he hasn't been running routes. I have no expectation of him being a hall of fame TE or even top 10. Seems like a good rotation piece. Why anyone hates this massively or loves it massively is beyond me.


    Jags get an incredibly strong and fast TE for little money but hardly one that will put up big numbers.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    eagle eye wrote: »
    How do you know what he's like as a tight end? I'd suggest Urban Meyer might know a little more about him than you do.

    Also the obvious thing here is how many fans he brings in. As far as I can remember the Jags struggled to sell tickets, they'll be sold out if he's involved.

    Because he's never played at TE, never blocked, never ran routes, never been a pass catcher. Also no way he makes the roster. Pure PR nonsense to sell jerseys.

    No one is going to convince me he is better option than an actual TE who has been practicing his skills all his life.


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  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Jasper Fit Pedestrian


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Because he's never played at TE, never blocked, never ran routes, never been a pass catcher. Also no way he makes the roster. Pure PR nonsense to sell jerseys.

    No one is going to convince me he is better option than an actual TE who has been practicing his skills all his life.

    Sometimes teams take flyers. Washington signed Sammy Reyes who's never played football I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,925 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    adrian522 wrote:
    Because he's never played at TE, never blocked, never ran routes, never been a pass catcher. Also no way he makes the roster. Pure PR nonsense to sell jerseys.
    He has blocked many times in college. He did it a few times in the NFL too.
    And as for selling jerseys, it's a business.
    adrian522 wrote:
    No one is going to convince me he is better option than an actual TE who has been practicing his skills all his life.
    You haven't a clue about what he can do though. Urban Meyer worked with him for four years in Florida.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    How many TE snaps did he run at Florida?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    And yes while I agree he wasn’t sitting on his hole for the past five years, he was trying his hand at baseball and as a fan of both sports, I can’t see many skills transferring between the two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,925 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    adrian522 wrote:
    How many TE snaps did he run at Florida?
    I wasn't part of the coaching staff so I couldn't tell you if he did any or not but Urban Meyer knows all about him.

    He certainly did block though, many times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,925 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Itssoeasy wrote:
    And yes while I agree he wasn’t sitting on his hole for the past five years, he was trying his hand at baseball and as a fan of both sports, I can’t see many skills transferring between the two.
    So playing outfield and timing a catch wouldn't help you? You don't think playing shortstop would help?


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I'm pretty sure Tim Tebow won't be a starting TE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    I think he means the final roster, and not the 90 at the start of training camp.

    But I think he will make it given its Meyer's decision.

    I kinda knew that, I was only being a smart arse, its a ridiculous signing as far as I can see, this man seems to be still assessed by his college career, he could be a disaster as an nfl tight end. Jacksonville draft Trevor Lawrence and sign Tebow for him to throw to. It looks crazy, a 33 year old with 0 lifetime catches who never played the position, and as I said in an earlier post, he has 1 career target, and it hit him in the face


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Maybe he's being looked at more as a FB than pass catching TE. His physicality would lend itself to that. Taysom Hill basically had the career he should've had, albeit Hill is a much better passer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,925 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Maybe he's being looked at more as a FB than pass catching TE. His physicality would lend itself to that. Taysom Hill basically had the career he should've had, albeit Hill is a much better passer.
    Hill is a better passer? Since when?


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