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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #722
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,521 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Iv had all of my recommended injections up to date. Including ones before traveling to Asia in case I contracted a tropical disease which might kill me

    My age category has a high 90s% chance of complete recovery from Covid. I don't need a vaccine. Don't worry about transmission of you have yours and your yearly booster. You can go back outside

    Less of the abuse.

    I've seen your posts in the conspiracy forum, you aren't fooling anyone.


  • #723
    EddieN75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    timsey tiger wrote: »

    If you knew anything about investments, you'd know that the scenario you described above would make it even less sensible to buy more now. :rolleyes:

    Il be back onto you in 5 years to discuss if the different sectors of the stock market and Pfizer specifically have risen in price.

    Time in the market

    Get the jab


  • #724
    EddieN75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    I've seen your posts in the conspiracy forum, you aren't fooling anyone.

    Il take my chances.

    You do what's right for you and il do same for me.


  • #725
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Iv had all of my recommended injections up to date. Including ones before traveling to Asia in case I contracted a tropical disease which might kill me

    My age category has a high 90s% chance of complete recovery from Covid. I don't need a vaccine. Don't worry about transmission of you have yours and your yearly booster. You can go back outside

    Less of the abuse.

    Me me me me me


  • #726
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Can enter the US and UK with a negative antigen test but Dr Tony tells us he doesn't want us taking one before having a barbecue outdoors with friends. Can anyone explain the logic here? Does tony have shares in the testing lab or something


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  • #727
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Il be back onto you in 5 years to discuss if the different sectors of the stock market and Pfizer specifically have risen in price.

    Time in the market

    Get the jab

    Sure, knock yourself out.


  • #728
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Can enter the US and UK with a negative antigen test but Dr Tony tells us he doesn't want us taking one before having a barbecue outdoors with friends. Can anyone explain the logic here? Does tony have shares in the testing lab or something

    Because they are unreliable.

    Up to 15 people can meet outside from Monday so have your BBQ.

    The HSE covers the cost of testing, so no, despite the shite posted on social media, Dr Holohan isn't benefiting financially from people being tested.


  • #729
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Can enter the US and UK with a negative antigen test but Dr Tony tells us he doesn't want us taking one before having a barbecue outdoors with friends. Can anyone explain the logic here? Does tony have shares in the testing lab or something
    The people in the lab will now how to use the test correctly, so there's a reasonable chance that a negative result means you don't have the virus.
    A negative result from a self-administered test symptomatic Anto bought in Lidl is not as reliable, but the concern is that he will trust it and head to the bbq anyway.


  • #730
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,504 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Il take my chances.

    You do what's right for you and il do same for me.

    Selfish anti-vaxxers like you absolutely disgust me. Horrible attitude.


  • #731
    EddieN75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    Selfish anti-vaxxers like you absolutely disgust me. Horrible attitude.

    I'm entitled to do as I choose. It's my body.

    Your nasty attitude towards a stranger shows the type of person that you are. A horrible one.


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  • #732
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,268 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Iv had all of my recommended injections up to date. Including ones before traveling to Asia in case I contracted a tropical disease which might kill me

    My age category has a high 90s% chance of complete recovery from Covid. I don't need a vaccine. Don't worry about transmission of you have yours and your yearly booster. You can go back outside

    Less of the abuse.

    And not a thought in your head for children on chemo who are immuno compromised
    Not a care for children or adults who cannot get a vaccine . Not a single thought for anyone but yourself . Really charming


  • #733
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,268 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Take a break. Lol

    I'm doing what's right for me. Go get your vaccine and live your own life.

    I have mine , for me and for others . Thank goodness most people are caring .


  • #734
    EddieN75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I have mine , for me and for others . Thank goodness most people are caring .

    I'm not sure if you are trolling or not but either way best of luck.


  • #735
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,477 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    I'm not sure if you are trolling or not but either way best of luck.
    There is only one person trolling

    Do not post in this thread again


  • #736
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Shameful tweet. Is he drunk ?

    https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1391095650750709769?s=19


  • #737
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Well that's a weird tweet!


  • #738
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Shameful tweet. Is he drunk ?

    https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1391095650750709769?s=19

    Whether he deletes that in the future or not he can **** right off.


  • #739
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    An odd one, but at the same time, you can see where he's coming from. You wouldn't blame him if he called out, e.g., watered down sanitizer - even if it was surprising of him to do it.


  • #740
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    Dont "loose the plot" , I'm sure that Tweet was aimed at the very Ryanair 'ish Lidl tweet.


  • #741
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    coastwatch wrote: »
    Dont "loose the plot" , I'm sure that Tweet was aimed at the very Ryanair 'ish Lidl tweet.
    Public Health need to catch up with the public.

    We've had too much talk about "abundance of caution". People want to get their lives back, and I think in general the public are an awful lot less cautious than our health people are - I'd say there will be a line of people in their 40s willing to take both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccine if it was offered to them.

    Dr Scott Gottlieb in the US, who I have a lot of time for, was calling yesterday for parts of the US to lift the requirement for people to wear masks indoors. He thought it was important that public health people act aggressively to lift restrictions, as it gives them credibility if they ever need to re-impose them. Otherwise they lose credibility, and the public starts making its own decisions.


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  • #742
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    harrylittle wrote: »
    True... what happened to my body my choice ... the left were chanting to bring in abortion a few years ago .. now their chanting 'your selfish' because folks refuse to take an experimental gene therapy

    Well before you get banned.....
    For abortion and the gay marriage referendums, both issues did not or will not impact the vast majority of people's lives, but the vast majority voted to allow both, not for their own benefit, for the benefit of the few. It was making the country a better and safer place. It's a very similar situation for vaccinations.


  • #743
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    hmmm wrote: »
    Public Health need to catch up with the public.

    We've had too much talk about "abundance of caution". People want to get their lives back, and I think in general the public are an awful lot less cautious than our health people are - I'd say there will be a line of people in their 40s willing to take both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccine if it was offered to them.

    Dr Scott Gottlieb in the US, who I have a lot of time for, was calling yesterday for parts of the US to lift the requirement for people to wear masks indoors. He thought it was important that public health people act aggressively to lift restrictions, as it gives them credibility if they ever need to re-impose them. Otherwise they lose credibility, and the public starts making its own decisions.

    Nothing wrong with reminding people to continue to be careful, when although the vaccine roll out is going well, still only 12% of adults have been fully vaccinated.
    People were just as fed up with covid in the run up to the "meaningful christmas" .


  • #744
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The last few posts relating to the vaccines were a bit odd. I don't think it's fair to heavily criticise another person for their views on it. If someone chooses to not take a Covid vaccine then that's for them to decide. Yes there are people who for medical reasons are unable to, but does that mean someone should put their own wishes aside? I don't believe so. Also I write all of this as someone who is very pro vaccination.

    For another thread I think but felt it was worth posting.


  • #745
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ficheall wrote: »
    An odd one, but at the same time, you can see where he's coming from. You wouldn't blame him if he called out, e.g., watered down sanitizer - even if it was surprising of him to do it.

    They're being used in other, very reputable countries without being called 'snake oil'. So no, I can't see where he's coming from.

    NPHET have constantly looked down on anything that isn't utter conservatism, and it has hurt us. This will align well with their reluctance to encourage outdoor activities until it was months too late. Lets just hope nobody socialises ever again instead of encouraging safer ways of doing so.


  • #746
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The last few posts relating to the vaccines were a bit odd. I don't think it's fair to heavily criticise another person for their views on it. If someone chooses to not take a Covid vaccine then that's for them to decide. Yes there are people who for medical reasons are unable to, but does that mean someone should put their own wishes aside? I don't believe so. Also I write all of this as someone who is very pro vaccination.

    For another thread I think but felt it was worth posting.

    Of course it's a choice for them to get vaccinated or not. Some people have clear concerns, or may have conditions where they cannot take a vaccine etc...

    But it's not a choice on what vaccine they prefer, it's a medical decision and not not up to the patient.
    I keep going to my doc with a hangover and requesting oxy, but he won't give me the prescription /s

    When people start dropping the experiential gene therapy or vaccines still being in a trial... then they loose all credibility. There's a conspiracy theory thread for them to indulge themselves.


  • #747
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    coastwatch wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with reminding people to continue to be careful, when although the vaccine roll out is going well, still only 12% of adults have been fully vaccinated.
    People were just as fed up with covid in the run up to the "meaningful christmas" .

    Goalposts moved again even though first dose gives immunity, 24% of UK population have had 2 doses I think, when do you think we could relax, obviously not when the elderly got vaccinated? Christmas was a very different situation, I don't think I need to explain why, is our mission now to live as long as possible when we may have lost our minds and be incontinent, or to try and have a good quality of life when we are able, crossing the road has its risks, time to put covid with it soon and take our chances.


  • #748
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Of course it's a choice for them to get vaccinated or not. Some people have clear concerns, or may have conditions where they cannot take a vaccine etc...

    But it's not a choice on what vaccine they prefer, it's a medical decision and not not up to the patient.
    I keep going to my doc with a hangover and requesting oxy, but he won't give me the prescription /s

    When people start dropping the experiential gene therapy or vaccines still being in a trial... then they loose all credibility. There's a conspiracy theory thread for them to indulge themselves.

    Yes I do agree that the vaccine we receive must be a medical decision.


  • #749
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The last few posts relating to the vaccines were a bit odd. I don't think it's fair to heavily criticise another person for their views on it. If someone chooses to not take a Covid vaccine then that's for them to decide. Yes there are people who for medical reasons are unable to, but does that mean someone should put their own wishes aside? I don't believe so. Also I write all of this as someone who is very pro vaccination.

    For another thread I think but felt it was worth posting.

    If most people decide not to take the vaccine then we will never get out of this, for those who decide that if others take the vaccine I will be alright, it speaks volumes about them.


  • #750
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    hmmm wrote: »
    Public Health need to catch up with the public.

    We've had too much talk about "abundance of caution". People want to get their lives back, and I think in general the public are an awful lot less cautious than our health people are - I'd say there will be a line of people in their 40s willing to take both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccine if it was offered to them.

    Dr Scott Gottlieb in the US, who I have a lot of time for, was calling yesterday for parts of the US to lift the requirement for people to wear masks indoors. He thought it was important that public health people act aggressively to lift restrictions, as it gives them credibility if they ever need to re-impose them. Otherwise they lose credibility, and the public starts making its own decisions.

    Interesting reverse psychology. Though I'm not sure the majority of people need to be babied like that.

    His theory - I presume also pays some credence to infection rates otherwise it somewhat smacks of simply playing to the mob.

    Odd thing is that the US overall have had fairly patchy and light restrictions with high case numbers and deaths

    And yet after an initial high demand for vaccination - some there don't seem to want to be vaccinated

    https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/health/2021/05/05/covid-19-vaccination-demand-us-slows-outreach-efforts-intensify/4924019001/


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  • #751
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gozunda wrote: »
    Interesting reverse psychology. Though I'm not sure the majority of people need to be babied like that.

    His theory - I presume also pays some credence to infection rates otherwise it somewhat smacks of simply playing to the mob.

    Odd thing is that the US overall have had fairly patchy and light restrictions with high case numbers and deaths

    And yet after an initial high demand for vaccination - some there don't seem to want to be vaccinated

    https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/health/2021/05/05/covid-19-vaccination-demand-us-slows-outreach-efforts-intensify/4924019001/

    The healthy majority didn't need to be sacrificial lambs for a tiny minority either. It's rather simple, if you browbeat the public relentlessly with excessive restrictions eventually some will openly rebel. Fourteen months of "concern" becomes irritating white noise, and many have adjusted by blocking it out entirely. Life must go on, social distancing and masks will become an afterthought before long as vaccines make their mark.


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