BANGERNOMICS (sub3k) of the week/day Part 7

ltd440 · 03-05-2021 7:47pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Hyundai Getz, i10 or i20. Kia Picanto

As in better cars? , more reliable?

ltd440 · 03-05-2021 7:49pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Unless there's a particular reason it has to be automatic, I'd suggest a manual for 1st car. Much easier to go auto from manual than trying to learn how to drive a manual after driving auto.

Yes, she will always be driving an auto

dobman88 · 03-05-2021 8:08pm

ltd440 wrote: »

Yes, she will always be driving an auto

Fair enough. BoL with it, lots of knowledgable guys in here to help anyways.

colm_mcm · 03-05-2021 8:14pm

ltd440 wrote: »

As in better cars? , more reliable?

Reliable, but importantly they have a traditional torque converter gearbox, so it will be smooth and easy to drive.

A lot of cars in that class have automated manual boxes which are a disaster.

ltd440 · 03-05-2021 8:24pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Reliable, but importantly they have a traditional torque converter gearbox, so it will be smooth and easy to drive.

A lot of cars in that class have automated manual boxes which are a disaster.

Thanks, exactly the kind of info I'm looking for, I'll try to steer her in the right direction but she could just as easy pick a car because of its colour, didnt we all at that age

mczandre · 03-05-2021 10:15pm

Hi, guys
Let me get this straight
I see lots of old cars (and reasonable cheap) being discussed, but what about insurance?
Last time I quoted for a bangernomic I got a surprising €1000 for a €3000 cars! Not to mention that the vast majority of the insurance companies immediately refused to provide a quotation...
How do you deal with this?

punisher5112 · 03-05-2021 10:19pm

mczandre wrote: »

Hi, guys
Let me get this straight
I see lots of old cars (and reasonable cheap) being discussed, but what about insurance?
Last time I quoted for a bangernomic I got a surprising €1000 for a €3000 cars! Not to mention that the vast majority of the insurance companies immediately refused to provide a quotation...
How do you deal with this?

Some get away as such if say have 6 months left, others if old enough get on classic policy as have other car insurance already.

Some are not quoting nuts either in some cases.

dobman88 · 03-05-2021 10:21pm

mczandre wrote: »

Hi, guys
Let me get this straight
I see lots of old cars (and reasonable cheap) being discussed, but what about insurance?
Last time I quoted for a bangernomic I got a surprising €1000 for a €3000 cars! Not to mention that the vast majority of the insurance companies immediately refused to provide a quotation...
How do you deal with this?

350 quid a year for my banger 03 Corolla, 10 years NCB on my own name, 4 years NCB on my parents car before that. First time on my own was 1100 on a 1 litre micra.

Circumstances has a lot to do with it. Age, location, driving history.

An Ri rua · 03-05-2021 10:48pm

0lddog wrote: »

There is a heap of stuff to like about those 1.8 Civics. Was very sad when told the pano roof didn't open ( deal breaker for me ) .

50k miles in 15 years on the Alfa.....hmmmmm !

If the paperwork backs it, so be it. I bought a 79k mile 06 Primera on Friday. Mileage 100% verified

Old diesel · 03-05-2021 11:50pm

AMKC wrote: »

I would not call it class. Its bug eyed ugly. It's like like a cheap camper from the side and the rear has elements in the lights of the Fiat Merea weekend estate so a mish mash of design and then there is that cheap plasticky dash and interior. Sure it will last and is in good nick but classy no way miles away from been class. A Megane was a nicer place to be back then or an Octavia even.

What one terms as class is a personal thing.

The things you don't like are precisely what attracts others to the thing.

I STILL miss the Daihatsu Fourtrack my farmer brother used to own.

Even though objectively it was terrible to drive.

Cars and our reaction to them aren't based on logic a lot of the time

AMKC · 04-05-2021 12:03pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ssangyong-kyron-ssangyong-2-0xdi-2wd-5dr/22173997

The Key looks like it could do with been replaced otherwise looks good.

dobman88 · 04-05-2021 12:11pm

AMKC wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ssangyong-kyron-ssangyong-2-0xdi-2wd-5dr/22173997

The Key looks like it could do with been replaced otherwise looks good.

NCT 18 months out (since Oct 2019) and hasn't been taxed for 2 years doesn't look good.

Turbolounge · 04-05-2021 12:12pm

ltd440 wrote: »

Lads, I'm also looking for a bit of advice.
My daughter is buying her first car, has to be an automatic, nissan micras is her first choice.
Is there anything in particular that goes wrong with them that I should look out.
Probably an 07 to 2011

If you don't mind the 120km range, you'd get a gen 1 leaf for around €4000, very little to go wrong on them and the insurance is really cheap for a new driver. Just make sure the battery is good on an early one.

AMKC · 04-05-2021 12:36pm

dobman88 wrote: »

NCT 18 months out (since Oct 2019) and hasn't been taxed for 2 years doesn't look good.

Maybe they just don't drive it on the road any more so did not bother. It looks like it could be a farm house.
I would also say there is room there to bargain. Maybe if someone offered them a grand they would take it.

bazz26 · 04-05-2021 1:11pm

That Rexton is no bargain @ 2k. It's 15 years old and has no NCT. I also doubt someone who actually thinks it's worth 2k would listen to an offer of half that.

Even if it had a current NCT it still belongs in the dreamer's thread rather than this thread.

CoBo55 · 04-05-2021 1:19pm

AMKC wrote: »

Maybe they just don't drive it on the road any more so did not bother. It looks like it could be a farm house.
I would also say there is room there to bargain. Maybe if someone offered them a grand they would take it.

No test, doesn't qualify for this thread, anyway I think Nickey is smoking some very strong stuff to be asking 2k for that junker...

An Ri rua · 04-05-2021 6:30pm

AMKC wrote: »

Maybe they just don't drive it on the road any more so did not bother. It looks like it could be a farm house.
I would also say there is room there to bargain. Maybe if someone offered them a grand they would take it.

It's Nickey's Garage. Looks like a dealer and a scrappy one at that. I see no evidence of a farmhouse. No NCT, and... it's a Kyron. Which is why he has no full picture of it as he'd have to replace the camera.

KevRossi · 04-05-2021 8:36pm

NCT to 01/22, done a month ago. €1650. 2.0 petrol, manual.

Cheapish, clean and usually very reliable convertible for holidays at home this year. On the basis we might be going nowhere for the summer it might be a decent 2nd car for the next 6 months. It's not quite 20 years old but a broker should be able to get cheaper insurance on it as a 2nd car. Needs a minor fix on the window.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-volkswagen-golfnew-nct-01-22/27775335

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Turbolounge · 04-05-2021 8:44pm

An Ri rua wrote: »

It's Nickey's Garage. Looks like a dealer and a scrappy one at that. I see no evidence of a farmhouse. No NCT, and... it's a Kyron. Which is why he has no full picture of it as he'd have to replace the camera.

As bad as the kyron is, it couldn't hold a candle (in terms of being awful) to the rhodius

Duke O Smiley · 04-05-2021 9:15pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nct-22-aut0matic/27952644

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2.4 S40 with NCT til February 2022 and tax til June, 1 previous owner, €900.

I've bought a few cars from this seller before, not the kind of place Joe Soap will wander in and buy his next family car from, but I've always had good dealings and bought some decent cars too. Very tempted to pick this up for when I'm home next month

alan partridge aha · 04-05-2021 9:17pm

An Ri rua wrote: »

It's Nickey's Garage. Looks like a dealer and a scrappy one at that. I see no evidence of a farmhouse. No NCT, and... it's a Kyron. Which is why he has no full picture of it as he'd have to replace the camera.

On the Gorey-Wexford Road about 4 miles past Ballycanew. A place called Ballyedmond. Cars parked on side of the road on grass margin. Been selling there a long time. A lot of older stuff.

theoneeyedman · 04-05-2021 10:23pm

KevRossi wrote: »

NCT to 01/22, done a month ago. €1650. 2.0 petrol, manual.

Cheapish, clean and usually very reliable convertible for holidays at home this year. On the basis we might be going nowhere for the summer it might be a decent 2nd car for the next 6 months. It's not quite 20 years old but a broker should be able to get cheaper insurance on it as a 2nd car. Needs a minor fix on the window.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-volkswagen-golfnew-nct-01-22/27775335

Nice!
As an aside, is working Windows not covered in the Nct?

punisher5112 · 04-05-2021 10:24pm

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Nice!
As an aside, is working Windows not covered in the Nct?

Drivers window is all.

ltd440 · 04-05-2021 10:47pm

Turbolounge wrote: »

If you don't mind the 120km range, you'd get a gen 1 leaf for around €4000, very little to go wrong on them and the insurance is really cheap for a new driver. Just make sure the battery is good on an early one.

We actually have a leaf in our house already and I'd recommend it highly as a commuting car.
But she wants a smaller motor

Sir Galahad · 05-05-2021 12:15am

KevRossi wrote: »

NCT to 01/22, done a month ago. €1650. 2.0 petrol, manual.

Cheapish, clean and usually very reliable convertible for holidays at home this year. On the basis we might be going nowhere for the summer it might be a decent 2nd car for the next 6 months. It's not quite 20 years old but a broker should be able to get cheaper insurance on it as a 2nd car. Needs a minor fix on the window.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-volkswagen-golfnew-nct-01-22/27775335

I’ve the identical car. Mine is 2002. 40,000 miles, only two owners including me and the same money. &#55358;&#56596;

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 05-05-2021 8:15am

Is that 2.0 engine the same as the GTi?

Might be a silly question, VW are not my thing.

colm_mcm · 05-05-2021 8:23am

It’s the 8 valve, 113bhp

Would be the same as mk3 GTI 8V I think.

Those Cabrios are a just Mk3 with Mk4 headlights/bonnet/bumper

AMKC · 05-05-2021 8:58am

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s the 8 valve, 113bhp

Would be the same as mk3 GTI 8V I think.

Those Cabrios are a just Mk3 with Mk4 headlights/bonnet/bumper

Talk about the half arsed way of doing it but then that's VW for you. So somene back then would pay more for this than a full proper MK4 and only get parts of the MK4 but mostly a MK3 car. The least they could have done is fit the MK4 dash but nope MK3 dash as well. How dull not that the 4 was any better. No wonder it looks so I'll proportioned from the side view.

colm_mcm · 05-05-2021 9:06am

Never miss an opportunity to have a pop!

KevRossi · 05-05-2021 9:21am

AMKC wrote: »

Talk about the half arsed way of doing it but then that's VW for you. So somene back then would pay more for this than a full proper MK4 and only get parts of the MK4 but mostly a MK3 car. The least they could have done is fit the MK4 dash but nope MK3 dash as well. How dull not that the 4 was any better. No wonder it looks so I'll proportioned from the side view.

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BANGERNOMICS (sub3k) of the week/day Part 7

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