Parking and traffic in Phoenix Park

beauf · 06-04-2021 01:49PM

That's been the plan for decades... Nothing new about that.

IngazZagni · 06-04-2021 01:57PM

Good to see it being repaired. Hopefully they widen the footpath and incorporate a dedicated cycle path. I mean it would be shocking if they're not doing that but it also wouldn't shock me if they don't.

VonLuck wrote: »

Phoenix Park gates to be rehung by the end of July: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/phoenix-park-gates-set-to-be-rehung-after-800-000-restoration-1.4529113

I'll believe it when I see it. It's only taken 3 years and €800,000. They've missed various dates. Yes Covid has delayed things but remember it took them over a year after they removed the gates just to start the tender process!

VonLuck · 06-04-2021 03:12PM

IngazZagni wrote: »

Good to see it being repaired. Hopefully they widen the footpath and incorporate a dedicated cycle path. I mean it would be shocking if they're not doing that but it also wouldn't shock me if they don't.

That's not a part of the proposals unfortunately. This is the scope as described:

The project involves the removal and disposal of existing road surface and relaying of new road surface, taking up, cleaning and relaying of existing granite kerbs and the removal and disposal of existing footpath and relaying of new footpath surface.

Other ancillary works will include installation of traffic calming ramps along the 2.5 kilometre stretch of road.

These works are entirely unrelated to any proposals included In the recently published Phoenix Park Transport and Mobility Options Report.

IngazZagni wrote: »

I'll believe it when I see it. It's only taken 3 years and €800,000. They've missed various dates. Yes Covid has delayed things but remember it took them over a year after they removed the gates just to start the tender process!

It really is strange how long it has taken. How could the refurbishment of gates take 3 years?!

Stark · 06-04-2021 03:30PM

Maybe they got Cecilia Giménez in to do the refurbishment.

Larbre34 · 06-04-2021 04:27PM

Joe4321 wrote: »

Why was this not done as essential work while the park had reduced capacity, now when things are opening up you have a major section of road closed both to traffic and pedestrians, what a joke, can no one plan anything in this country.

Contractors can't work. Emergency works only.

While you're right that these most severe restrictions will begin to ease in a few weeks, theres no question of things even approaching normal for many months yet, so its as good a time as any to do this work.

What concerns me is any attempt by the OPW just to chuck in a cul-de-sac at the end of the job as one of these "trials". They had better not try to subvert their own consultation process.

Daeltaja · 06-04-2021 04:47PM

IngazZagni wrote: »

I'll believe it when I see it. It's only taken 3 years and €800,000. They've missed various dates. Yes Covid has delayed things but remember it took them over a year after they removed the gates just to start the tender process!

800k! What are they made of, solid gold?

beauf · 07-04-2021 06:10PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Contractors can't work. Emergency works only.

While you're right that these most severe restrictions will begin to ease in a few weeks, theres no question of things even approaching normal for many months yet, so its as good a time as any to do this work.

What concerns me is any attempt by the OPW just to chuck in a cul-de-sac at the end of the job as one of these "trials". They had better not try to subvert their own consultation process.

Be surprised if they didn't. Leopard...spots...

zerosugarbuzz · 21-04-2021 09:33PM

Main car park at the Papal Cross apparently now closing at 6pm each day. What about the people stopping off after work in the evenings for a walk or run after work. Makes no sense to me!

Stark · 21-04-2021 09:49PM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Main car park at the Papal Cross apparently now closing at 6pm each day. What about the people stopping off after work in the evenings for a walk or run after work. Makes no sense to me!

There must be some reason for that, makes no sense that they would start doing that as the evenings are getting longer, it's been open late all winter.

beauf · 21-04-2021 10:04PM

....is there anything to be said for saying another mass...

daymobrew · 22-04-2021 08:54AM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Main car park at the Papal Cross apparently now closing at 6pm each day. What about the people stopping off after work in the evenings for a walk or run after work. Makes no sense to me!

Email them: superintendent.park@opw.ie and ask.

zerosugarbuzz · 24-04-2021 06:38AM

daymobrew wrote: »

Email them: superintendent.park@opw.ie and ask.

Thanks and I will.

24-04-2021 10:41AM

The side gates are closed, no parking on chesterfield avenue, papal car park closing early now apparently and in general attempts at removing cars.

I personally think people will just start going elsewhere and a few years from now we’ll be wondering why the park is so empty.

beauf · 24-04-2021 11:55AM

They won't because they see it as nature reserve first and an amenity a far distant second.

Treppen · 24-04-2021 02:22PM

beauf wrote: »

They won't because they see it as nature reserve first and an amenity a far distant second.

Ya we really need to preserve those scarce deer... By shooting 30 every year :pac:

beauf · 24-04-2021 04:29PM

They are expensive so what ever it takes...

Larbre34 · 24-04-2021 05:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The side gates are closed, no parking on chesterfield avenue, papal car park closing early now apparently and in general attempts at removing cars.

I personally think people will just start going elsewhere and a few years from now we’ll be wondering why the park is so empty.

The side gates aren't closed?

It was busy in there today but everyone managed to park. I use any of the three carparks on the southern side of the 15 acres and always get a space handy enough. Nice to see it so busy today.

beauf · 24-04-2021 05:42PM

Everywhere park, beach etc is busy today I reckon.

Phil.x · 24-04-2021 06:57PM

beauf wrote: »

Everywhere park, beach etc is busy today I reckon.

Open the pubs and shops and the park will be back to being pre-covid popular.

miamee · 26-04-2021 10:48AM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Main car park at the Papal Cross apparently now closing at 6pm each day. What about the people stopping off after work in the evenings for a walk or run after work. Makes no sense to me!

I was parked in it on Friday from about 7pm to 7.50 and no sign of it closing when I was leaving. There *is* a sign on the barrier at the entrance saying car park closes at 6pm but that is the second time in recent weeks I have been there at that time without any issues.

VonLuck · 16-05-2021 04:08PM

VonLuck wrote: »

Phoenix Park gates to be rehung by the end of July: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/phoenix-park-gates-set-to-be-rehung-after-800-000-restoration-1.4529113

Was in the park today and it looks like they've started doing something with the Ashtown gate at last.

Stark · 16-05-2021 05:50PM

VonLuck wrote: »

Was in the park today and it looks like they've started doing something with the Ashtown gate at last.

Work being done on Chapelizod Gate as well.

jlang · 18-05-2021 03:04PM

In the last few weeks small signs with bikes/people/arrows have been installed on wooden sticks at each junction on the new paths on Chesterfield Avenue. If I'm interpreting them correctly the intent is that to keep bikes off the old cycle paths (and walkers off the hard shoulder cycle paths). Confusingly they also seem to want to enforce one way walking on the new footpaths.

If you've seen the signs, you'll know what I'm talking about. I might take a picture next time. Doesn't make any sense to me, even if segregating people walking in the opposite direction might have been the intent at the "max fear" stage of the pandemic.

Does anyone know what this is about?

No signs at the old paths, so I suppose they're still OK for two way walking.

Larbre34 · 18-05-2021 06:28PM

I'd say they left any attempt to do something like that 12 months too late. People are just gonna do whatever they like, short of walking on the road.

Stark · 18-05-2021 07:54PM

The one way walker signs have been there a while (totally ignored of course). They tried those in my local park but gave up on them. Saw one old fella give out to someone walking the other way one day and she just looked at him confused and said "yeah, thanks".

Larbre34 · 18-05-2021 08:35PM

Wasn't she right too?

I'm all for legitimate public health measures but thats a load of nonsense.

IngazZagni · 19-05-2021 12:03AM

Yeah those arrows on the footpaths have been up for months. I get the point of it but it's totally ignored so really just a waste of paint.

Separately I have noticed the need for Zebra crossings on Chesterfield Avenue. There's effectively no official crossing point on this entire stretch. There's a line near Castleknock which is not in line with standard zebra crossing road markings so basically they are expecting people to J walk and dodge traffic in a public park..

raheny red · 19-05-2021 09:34AM

Trying a way one system but no pedestrian crossings.....

I told ya · 19-05-2021 11:06AM

On Chesterfield Avenue, runners on the outer paths and walkers on the inner paths. Would it work?

buffalo · 19-05-2021 06:13PM

I told ya wrote: »

On Chesterfield Avenue, runners on the outer paths and walkers on the inner paths. Would it work?

I'm taking it that you mean inner as the one closer to the road? Vice versa would be better. Nobody likes walking beside the car traffic unless they have to, much nicer to walk further away from the fumes and noise and under the leafy trees.

Inner path is smoother as it doesn't have as many tree roots, so would be better for runners.

Parking and traffic in Phoenix Park

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