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  • 01-04-2021 3:10pm
    #1
    Marty1983
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭


    Thanks.
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  • #2
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    I agree with you. It's not worth the risk. We're not that long away from vaccines, so I wish people would have more cop on.


  • #3
    Oranage2
    Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Happy wife = Happy life

    Definitely not unreasonable, perhaps telling your wife that it will only be a few more months that you'd rather be safe than sorry.


  • #4
    Baybay
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Baybay


    Not unreasonable, in my opinion.

    Illness is one thing. Long Covid another. If there was no risk of death, then maybe I’d think differently but it’s not possible to determine the outcome.


  • #5
    BlaktainPicard
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭BlaktainPicard


    Marty1983 wrote: »
    Folks am i being unreasonable here?


    We had a new baby a few weeks ago and my in-laws have visited twice (over 150km) but stayed outside (At my insistence)



    Both of them have been vaccinated but work in a health care setting. There other children who they live with seem to do their own thing including one of them who is ignoring any and all restrictions that dont suit him.



    I dont want them to visit again until its legal and recommended.


    Neither of us or our children are vaccinated and i am being painted as the bad guy for saying no. I am just trying to both follow guidelines and keep my family safe. If any of us got sick from one of these visits id never forgive myself. My wife is happy to assume the risk but i am not.

    Pretty sure this is a poor effort at trolling but if not -
    You are part of the problem why this lunacy is continuing , what do you mean keeping your family safe ??

    The situation above is ZERO risk.

    If the govt told you to wear a plastic bag over yoyur head would you ?

    Sadly I think you would, while clapping along thinking it's for the best and will end soon ...

    HOLD FIRM ...

    ALL IN THIS TOGETHER ... etc ...


  • #6
    BobbyBolivia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭BobbyBolivia


    They are vaccinated. What is the issue exactly?

    Not to mention that your children would be more likely to die in a car accident than from Covid.

    I genuinely cannot get over what Covid and the media have done to people in this country when a pair of vaccinated grandparents cannot hold their grandchild.


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    If they are both vaccinated then how will the risk suddenly vanish when the guidelines are changed? If they infect you then you are screwed anyway when society reopens.

    The children are another story, for sure don't let them in.

    Other than that I agree with your wife and her family here.


  • #8
    JMNolan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    What's the point of the vaccine if we can't meet our family?


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Baybay wrote: »
    Not unreasonable, in my opinion.

    Illness is one thing. Long Covid another. If there was no risk of death, then maybe I’d think differently but it’s not possible to determine the outcome.

    THEY ARE VACCINATED ..... JESUS WEPT ....

    And guess what .... when restrictions are lifted it's still not possible to determine the outcome ... when you get your vaccine shot it's not possible to determine the outcome - you could be one of those people that die of a blood clot or anaphylactic shock.

    So many people fail to understand risk analysis.


  • #10
    touts
    Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭touts


    Next time they are coming make a discreet call to the local garda station and report them.


  • #11
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,658 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I agree with you. It's not worth the risk. We're not that long away from vaccines, so I wish people would have more cop on.

    The in-laws are already vaccinated though.

    OP are your other children old enough to be helpful, or is your wife stuck at home with three under 4s (or whatever).

    Do you or your wife have any underlying conditions which would make you covid-19 vulnerable? If not, have you thought hard about the actual risk vs just waiting to do what the government says? Because the government saying "you can visit" doesn't actually reduce that much, especially if the in-laws work in healthcare - there are a whole range of bugs they could bring with them.


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  • #12
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Marty1983 wrote: »
    Folks am i being unreasonable here?


    We had a new baby a few weeks ago and my in-laws have visited twice (over 150km) but stayed outside (At my insistence)



    Both of them have been vaccinated but work in a health care setting. There other children who they live with seem to do their own thing including one of them who is ignoring any and all restrictions that dont suit him.



    I dont want them to visit again until its legal and recommended.


    Neither of us or our children are vaccinated and i am being painted as the bad guy for saying no. I am just trying to both follow guidelines and keep my family safe. If any of us got sick from one of these visits id never forgive myself. My wife is happy to assume the risk but i am not.

    Just heard off a friend in her early 30s there who had covid in Jan who had to go back to doctor.

    She described it like a flu but her legs have hurt since. Went to a doctor and eventually specialist. She's just been told she'll have to wear ridiculously thick tights for the indefinite future due to varicose veins.

    Mad auld disease this thing.


  • #13
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    They should stop being selfish and causing issues between you and your wife and know to just wait a little while until things change. They've already seen the baby twice and now how you feel about it. They should just bleep off and have some respect at this point.

    Whether they come or don't the issues are there now. And they have seen the baby from outside through a window :D

    The normal "the man is controlling" feminist replies are notably absent here for some reason ...


  • #14
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Healthcare workers should know better.


  • #15
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    touts wrote: »
    Next time they are coming make a discreet call to the local garda station and report them.

    For people asking how did Nazi Germany happen .... since COVID hit we now know.


  • #16
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    You are not clear op in what the issue is with the in laws. Is everyone annoyed because they cant come into the house and/or hold the baby? Or are you trying to stop the visits full stop?

    If its the first one, then I would say hold firm but be tactful. They are grandparents and those can get a bit unreasonable around the birth of a new grandkid. They want to see the kid and shower it with love, you want to protect all concerned. Be tactful and explain everything to them, they should come aaround

    If its the second one, you can ask them to stop visiting, but if they wish to risk fines to come 150km and stand outside the house and stay 2 meters away from you and your family, yeah thats not worth fighting to be honest. So long as the physical distance is maintained. That part I would not bend one inch on


  • #17
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Do people not realise we are never going to open with the attitudes shown here?

    It's frightening how inhuman some people are. I actually thought the OP was trolling but now not so sure.


  • #18
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    touts wrote: »
    Next time they are coming make a discreet call to the local garda station and report them.

    Gardaí don't really care, and probably won't do anything about it.


  • #19
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    For people asking how did Nazi Germany happen .... since COVID hit we now know.

    Looks like you missed good few classes of history for sure.


  • #20
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,658 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The normal "the man is controlling" feminist replies are notably absent here for some reason ...

    They ain't, see my question about how many small children the wife is expected to care for. I have more in the wings if he misses the point


  • #21
    Antares35
    Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Agree with you 100percent. We had our baby in May and didn't have any visiting for the first ten weeks. Remember too all the sacrifices that pregnant women have made and continue to make e.g. attending antenatal appointments alone, uncertainty as to whether the birth partner would even be present since they were only allowed in for "active labour", no visiting etc. We made all these personal sacrifices for the safety of ourselves, our babies, other mothers and babies and healthcare staff in the maternity hospitals. I felt very strongly that in this context, after sacrificing so much, it would be insulting for relatives to then just assume they could take liberties because they want to see the baby.


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  • #22
    Antares35
    Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    For people asking how did Nazi Germany happen .... since COVID hit we now know.

    I think it was a joke :D

    Edit: I...hope it was a joke!


  • #23
    BlaktainPicard
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭BlaktainPicard


    BobbyBolivia wrote: »
    They are vaccinated. What is the issue exactly?

    Not to mention that your children would be more likely to die in a car accident than from Covid.

    I genuinely cannot get over what Covid and the media have done to people in this country when a pair of vaccinated grandparents cannot hold their grandchild.

    Exactly, people that were disparaged for saying Covid is just a flu - fair enough, but actually for kids, it's actually true, in fact it's less damaging than flu for kids.

    it's incredible the fear the media have created, people genuinely think it's dangerous to step outside it seems ... especially if it's 5.00000001KM from your house


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Looks like you missed good few classes of history for sure.

    Read this and then tell me there aren't scary parallels with what's happening today

    https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

    People ratting on their neighbours, the army interning people at the airport, police checkpoints everywhere, priests prevented from saying mass, an unelected medical body ruling the country by diktat, protests banned, RTE not correcting blatant falsehoods like George Lee claiming that pubs and restaurants are the main spreaders of COVID a few days ago .... and at least half the replies saying it's reasonable that two vaccinated grandparents can't see their new grandchild.


  • #25
    Marty1983
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Marty1983


    So the grandparents visiting is not to help around the house etc, just to see and coo over children. I work from home and do the majority of housework etc.

    It’s not that I’m being inhuman, I genuinely believe that rules are the same for everyone, it’s not an example I want to set for the kids that your grandparents can do what they want.

    If they want to risk fines etc I am happy for them to visit as long as They stay outside and keep their 2m.


  • #26
    BlaktainPicard
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭BlaktainPicard


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I think it was a joke :D

    Edit: I...hope it was a joke!

    Whether it was or not , the point still stands, lots of people of this opinion ...


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    For people asking how did Nazi Germany happen .... since COVID hit we now know.

    Congrats on proving Godwins Law


  • #28
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Read this and then tell me there aren't scary parallels with what's happening today

    https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

    You're going to have nothing to talk about when the vaccine ends covid.

    You probably won't even stick around to acknowledge how wrong you were.


  • #29
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    BobbyBolivia wrote: »
    They are vaccinated. What is the issue exactly?

    Not to mention that your children would be more likely to die in a car accident than from Covid.

    I genuinely cannot get over what Covid and the media have done to people in this country when a pair of vaccinated grandparents cannot hold their grandchild.

    The in laws are vaccinated. Not the OP or wife.


  • #30
    Antares35
    Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    BlaktainPicard wrote: »
    Whether it was or not , the point still stands, lots of people of this opinion ...

    Calling the guards on grandparents??


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  • #31
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Read this and then tell me there aren't scary parallels with what's happening today

    https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

    Just don't get comparing any of this shīt to nazi shīt. Way out of the line imo.


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