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Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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  • #2282
    Wallander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Wallander


    faceman wrote: »
    It’s emerged this evening that Simon Coveney found out the additional list of countries the same way the rest of us did. He’s going bananas.

    It does sound though that they are poised to give the list of countries the heads up and worry about the consequences afterward


    No surprise, here's hoping they don't just wave this through. The European Commission is focusing on one thing above all else at the moment, stopping border closures. Mandatory hotel quarantine is effectively a border closure as it blocks a lot of essential travel.


  • #2283
    Ray Donovan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    https://twitter.com/leovaradkar/status/1376968713254039553?s=21

    2 PCR tests needed before you go about your business now according to Leo. One before you leave your destination and one when you arrive in Ireland.

    Shambles. Jesus, I really hope the EU’s Digital Travel Pass obliterates all these concepts for intra EU travel.


  • #2284
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Poster said they were looking forward to emigrating. If they want to go, the virus and restrictions are not stopping them. There is no point moaning about things if they aren't going to make the change they want to make.

    1. The Passport Office is closed, so you'll have to fabricate an emergency to get one.
    2. What a sad state of affairs that when people have been out of work for over a year, looking at 5 months or more of the current level 5 lockdown, they're told to **** off out of the country if they don't like it.


  • #2285
    embraer170
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/leovaradkar/status/1376968713254039553?s=21

    2 PCR tests needed before you go about your business now according to Leo. One before you leave your destination and one when you arrive in Ireland.

    When does this come into force?


  • #2286
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GazzaL wrote: »
    There is actually. If their passport is expired, they can't get a new one because the Passport Office is closed.

    As had been mentioned in this very thread, it's not. You can renew online in fact.

    Anything else for the sake of a stupid argument or can we move on to discussing actual travel?


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  • #2287
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    GazzaL wrote: »
    1. The Passport Office is closed, so you'll have to fabricate an emergency to get one.
    2. What a sad state of affairs that when people have been out of work for over a year, looking at 5 months or more of the current level 5 lockdown, they're told to **** off out of the country if they don't like it.


    People need to stop making excuses and putting barriers in their own way



    1. Plenty of people on here have reported having regular passport renewals processed in a few days.
    2. Yeah, if they don't like their situation here, they should do something about it. Either make changes here, or go somewhere else if they want to do that. It is likely that the issues or deficiencies will migrate with them as they are often inherent to the individual rather than the location. That said, a move can give an impetus for change to a person.


  • #2288
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    People need to stop making excuses and putting barriers in their own way



    1. Plenty of people on here have reported having regular passport renewals processed in a few days.
    2. Yeah, if they don't like their situation here, they should do something about it. Either make changes here, or go somewhere else if they want to do that. It is likely that the issues or deficiencies will migrate with them as they are often inherent to the individual rather than the location. That said, a move can give an impetus for change to a person.

    1. Can you provide a link?
    2. The only changes you can make here are to ignore the restrictions. Admittedly, an increasing majority of people are doing this.


  • #2289
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GazzaL wrote: »
    1. Can you provide a link

    Can you provide a link to the thread you are posting in? Are you on a wind-up?


  • #2290
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Eamon Ryan: Staycations this summer!
    Leo Varadkar: We'll only look at the reopening of restaurants at the end of June.

    Well done lads, ****ing clueless.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1376957158563196929

    https://twitter.com/RAI_ie/status/1376960401842274305


  • #2291
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    Can you provide a link to the thread you are posting in? Are you on a wind-up?

    If it's that easy, provide a link to one or two of the multiple posts to prove your point.

    The Passport Office is closed and it states on the website that they are not processing normal renewals during level 5.


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  • #2292
    rogber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭rogber


    embraer170 wrote: »
    This is going from bad to worse, especially for those abroad with elderly parents in need of support at home in Ireland.

    I was planning a trip to provide some help but now that there is a threat of Germany being added to the list (potentially without warning), hard to know what to say or plan.


    Same here. Have an elderly parent with long-term health issues and have regularly returned from Germany over the years to provide assistance. There have been no flights since mid January and this new rule effectively forces the choice of move home permanently or stay away. It's infuriating. What the f*ck are the ogligatory PCR tests for if not to make essential travel like that possible?


  • #2293
    KanyeSouthEast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Poster said they were looking forward to emigrating. If they want to go, the virus and restrictions are not stopping them. There is no point moaning about things if they aren't going to make the change they want to make.

    Poster didn’t say I was looking forward to emigrating. Poster made a point that not everyone was looking forward to travelling around Ireland some of us wanted to go abroad either permanently or on holidays but don’t let that get in the way.


  • #2294
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,681 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/leovaradkar/status/1376968713254039553?s=21

    2 PCR tests needed before you go about your business now according to Leo. One before you leave your destination and one when you arrive in Ireland.

    Shambles. Jesus, I really hope the EU’s Digital Travel Pass obliterates all these concepts for intra EU travel.

    If they introduce a pcr test on arrival there’s no reason for quarantine so


  • #2295
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    GazzaL wrote: »
    If it's that easy, provide a link to one or two of the multiple posts to prove your point.

    The Passport Office is closed and it states on the website that they are not processing normal renewals during level 5.


    Here
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I applied online for renewal of my passport last Sunday night. Received it Thursday .


  • #2296
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Good to see that cases are being found in quarantine.

    https://twitter.com/JackHoJo/status/1376908759986016260?s=20


  • #2297
    a clanger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭a clanger


    Passports again !!
    Yes online renewals are being done ....but as clarified by a poster apparently they are just doing random ones to keep the machinery turning over. ....
    No passports during LVL 5 if you have to submit paperwork eg Kids or initial application.

    All discussed back a few pages on thread .....


  • #2298
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,684 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Eamon Ryan: Staycations this summer!
    Leo Varadkar: We'll only look at the reopening of restaurants at the end of June.
    Well done lads, ****ing clueless.

    Jeeze they wheeled Ryan out of his bed and fitted him with electrodes so they could zap him long enough to stay awake!
    And he comes out with "holiday in Ireland"..... No thanks! I'm not a wealthy old American tourist.... :eek:


  • #2299
    fm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭fm


    faceman wrote: »
    If they introduce a pcr test on arrival there’s no reason for quarantine so

    I presume they will be free of charge surely,.


  • #2300
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Good to see that cases are being found in quarantine.

    https://twitter.com/JackHoJo/status/1376908759986016260?s=20

    Meanwhile 500 cases domestically that have likely been walking around a week, while this ridiculous bull**** destroys both the aviation and the tourist industry.

    I love Ireland but after this I can only hope the consequences are severe, EU should be laying on fines if NPHETs latest rubbish comes in and with any luck tighten the pursestrings too when Ireland comes with the begging bowl for recovery for their mistakes.

    Its unfortunate but the country should be let starve after this.


  • #2301
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    faceman wrote: »
    If they introduce a pcr test on arrival there’s no reason for quarantine so

    Not sure that's right. Don't New Zealand and Australia have a test on arrival and still regularly find cases in quarantine?
    All arrivals in MIQ are tested for COVID-19 at least three times – within 24 hours of arrival day 1, day 3 and day 12. Travellers from Australia, Antarctica and some Pacific islands are excluded from day 1 testing.

    https://www.customs.govt.nz/covid-19/personal/managed-isolation-or-quarantine-on-arrival-requirements/

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    https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-current-cases


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  • #2302
    a clanger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭a clanger


    faceman wrote: »
    If they introduce a pcr test on arrival there’s no reason for quarantine so

    They don't want you coming in....
    They don't want us to leave ....

    Isolationism and a bang of zero covid from the govts approach to travel.
    Their incompetence and management of the crisis far has been breathtaking but I'll bet they will be quick to find a loophole to avoid honouring The EU green cert and in 12 months when we have to pay for all this amid economic wreakage these clowns will trot out "ye all partied" line !


  • #2303
    M_Murphy57
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    faceman wrote: »
    If they introduce a pcr test on arrival there’s no reason for quarantine so

    But if you have a negative PCR on departure but test positive on arrival, its into prison...I mean MHQ at a cost of 2k (multiples of that if travelling with kids)

    Who can risk that? Its effectively shutting the borders, those slimey ****s


  • #2304
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    GazzaL wrote: »
    If it's that easy, provide a link to one or two of the multiple posts to prove your point.

    The Passport Office is closed and it states on the website that they are not processing normal renewals during level 5.




    Sure. Here is one to start you off.



    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116641707&postcount=1842

    And another

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116488211&postcount=1246


  • #2305
    rorrissey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭rorrissey


    God I sometimes feel like we are going backwards and not forwards in this whole situation.


  • #2306
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    rorrissey wrote: »
    God I sometimes feel like we are going backwards and not forwards in this whole situation.

    I know Leo likes a quote so I'd pay good money if he said

    But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!


  • #2307
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    M_Murphy57 wrote: »
    But if you have a negative PCR on departure but test positive on arrival, its into prison...I mean MHQ at a cost of 2k (multiples of that if travelling with kids)

    Who can risk that? Its effectively shutting the borders, those slimey ****s

    It it is as it appears, it will indeed be effectively a complete closure of the border


  • #2308
    acequion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭acequion


    How do we get around this? Fly into Belfast?


  • #2309
    Ray Donovan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    acequion wrote: »
    How do we get around this? Fly into Belfast?

    Ya looks like the best option. Travel will be good to go out of NI by late June as will inter county travel one would hope. So drive restriction free to Belfast, and fly restriction free from Belfast. That’s my plan all going well. I had planned on going from Dublin but this 2nd PCR test when you land is dodgy. A negative there and into MHQ. No thanks. Belfast it is. What’s a 3.5 hour drive when there’s a 3 week holiday at the end of it.


  • #2310
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    Ya looks like the best option. Travel will be good to go out of NI by late June as will inter county travel one would hope. So drive restriction free to Belfast, and fly restriction free from Belfast. That’s my plan all going well. I had planned on going from Dublin but this 2nd PCR test when you land is dodgy. A negative there and into MHQ. No thanks. Belfast it is. What’s a 3.5 hour drive when there’s a 3 week holiday at the end of it.


    But isn't the MHQ sunsetted by June ?


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  • #2311
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    Ya looks like the best option. Travel will be good to go out of NI by late June as will inter county travel one would hope. So drive restriction free to Belfast, and fly restriction free from Belfast. That’s my plan all going well. I had planned on going from Dublin but this 2nd PCR test when you land is dodgy. A negative there and into MHQ. No thanks. Belfast it is. What’s a 3.5 hour drive when there’s a 3 week holiday at the end of it.

    It sounds very dodgy

    I find it difficult to see how a mandatory and immediate test, then held in isolation until the result, then 14 days detention if positive will work. Every essential worker, or someone travelling for an essential reason, will have to travel with a bag, food etc for a 14 day hotel stay. Some of those people are likely only travelling with a laptop. And what’s the point of doing it at the airport when you’ve ferries and a land border

    Or else they’ll be some kind of certification to prove that travel is essential and exempt from this. In which case, of course, what’s the point at all


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