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irish customs on sat receivers from uk

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  • #2
    athlone573
    Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭athlone573


    Are you sure they got charged duty (as opposed to VAT and handling fees)?

    Revenue have been known to misapply Taric codes on occasion, and if they do you can look it up for yourself and claim the difference back, but it's a tedious task for the sake of a few euros, you'd be better off finding an EU stockist to start with.


  • #3
    dubrov
    Registered Users Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭dubrov


    I bought a second hand satellite box on eBay and was charged 23% VAT only on the sale plus delivery price.

    If WoS can charge you ROI VAT directly instead of UK VAT there should be no additional VAT. I'd contact them directly to see if they can. Otherwise, find an EU seller


  • #4
    jimgallagher
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭jimgallagher


    athlone573 wrote: »
    Are you sure they got charged duty (as opposed to VAT and handling fees)?

    .

    this guy gives fedex image w/ breakdown: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116216114&postcount=92


  • #5
    jimgallagher
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭jimgallagher


    dubrov wrote: »
    I bought a second hand satellite box on eBay and was charged 23% VAT only on the sale plus delivery price.

    If WoS can charge you ROI VAT directly instead of UK VAT there should be no additional VAT. I'd contact them directly to see if they can. Otherwise, find an EU seller

    looked at satking.de - price comes out roughly the same, but english lang support and more confidence in the WOS website configurator to ensure i get what i want.


  • #6
    Jordo1993
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Jordo1993


    I want to order something from the UK tomorrow, total cost in €300.50 how kuchen customs would I be hit with? It's under the sports and leisure category


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  • #7
    swoofer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,405 ✭✭✭swoofer


    You need to check on revenue site and when you get the goods can you post on here how much extra it cost you? For 300 I would get about 80 extra.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/buying-of-goods-online-for-personal-use/buying-goods-from-outside-the-eu.aspx


  • #8
    Widescreen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    Generally duty for most things we'd buy online is only between 0% - 5-6%

    Its the vat which is the real bug bare unfortunately..


  • #9
    ShaneOC
    Registered Users Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    I have used https://www.hm-sat-shop.de/en/ a number of times and it's been fine configuring receivers. Reasonable too.


  • #10
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,451 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is a good forum for all things Buying Online.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=583


  • #11
    ChippingSodbury
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭ChippingSodbury


    jimgallagher wrote: »
    was looking into ordering from WOS, order would have been above the 150€ limit.

    reading some other posts, ppl got charged customs.

    after looking up the regulations, i'm pretty sure the customs should be 0%.

    look at '3rd country duty':

    https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&SimDate=20210222&Area=&MeasType=&StartPub=&EndPub=&MeasText=&GoodsText=&op=&Taric=8528719100&search_text=goods&textSearch=&LangDescr=en&OrderNum=&Regulation=&measStartDat=&measEndDat=

    the sat receivers from WOS would fall under:



    might be worth reaching out to Revenue and enquire about a refund. the linked site is EU TARIC database which Revenues site directs you to for queries about customs rates.

    The EU/ UK Free Trade Agreement only applies to goods where the Country of Origin is either EU or UK. So if you're buying from a reseller/ distributor who didn't make the goods in the UK, they're supposed to charge the applicable duty. Rules of Origin are a nightmare.Enterprise Ireland Country of Origin Training 23-Feb-2021
    That's a training session that was given this week by Enterprise Ireland/ BDO. If you skip the first 10 or so minutes, the rest is very informative (I wouldn't go so far as to say interesting!)


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  • #12
    white_westie
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭white_westie


    Anyone buy anything from WOS in the last few weeks that cost more than €150 ?

    Probably looking at spending 250-300UKP.

    Understand they are charging ex uk vat, so that leaves irish vat, import duty and handling fee.
    Irish vat is 23% now, and the handling fees seem to be settling down/standardising, but what about the import duty?
    Do satellite receivers, lnbs, switches fall into the 0% category?

    Have bought from hm-sat.de before, but WOS is offering a 2 year warranty, so trying to decide if the price difference is worth it.

    TIA


  • #13
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,073 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    white_westie wrote: »
    Have bought from hm-sat.de before, but WOS is offering a 2 year warranty, so trying to decide if the price difference is worth it.

    TIA


    Problem with the 2 year warranty is if you then run in to problems having to make customs declarations for refunds returning the box and the replacement coming back to you.


    https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/buying-of-goods-online-for-personal-use/how-to-claim-a-refund-of-customs-duty-and-value-added-tax-vat.aspx


  • #14
    white_westie
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭white_westie


    Thanks for that info - seems in that situation, you pay taxes up front and then try and claim them back...

    Other issue is postage cost on returns.
    Sent a 2kg parcel to Belgium before christmas and it cost us fifty odd euro, not sure if UK is any cheaper!
    Must check with hm-sat again and see what warranty they are offering - I thought everything was 2years, but WOS have it on every page, so assumed it was an extra they were offering.


  • #15
    notajim
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭notajim


    white_westie wrote: »

    Understand they are charging ex uk vat, so that leaves irish vat, import duty and handling fee.
    Irish vat is 23% now, and the handling fees seem to be settling down/standardising, but what about the import duty?
    Do satellite receivers, lnbs, switches fall into the 0% category?


    TIA

    Yes, thus this thread with the links.
    ChippingSodbury wrote:
    The EU/ UK Free Trade Agreement only applies to goods where the Country of Origin is either EU or UK. So if you're buying from a reseller/ distributor who didn't make the goods in the UK, they're supposed to charge the applicable duty

    You see, commenst like this muddy the water and add noise.
    The EU/UK agreement wasn't mentioned. Instead, a link was given to the relevant page which shows that there is 0% import duties on satellite receivers. Please update your comment as it is misleading to people and quite pointless to mention that agreement when there is a well sourced and quoted link from official EU website showing 0% import fees on satellite receivers.


  • #16
    notajim
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭notajim


    Also would be great if mods wouldn't delete messages from OP when they already called out the misinformation by ChippingSodbury. Yes I saw you guys delete the message with 0 mention. Poor form.


  • #17
    athlone573
    Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭athlone573


    notajim wrote: »
    Yes, thus this thread with the links.



    You see, commenst like this muddy the water and add noise.
    The EU/UK agreement wasn't mentioned. Instead, a link was given to the relevant page which shows that there is 0% import duties on satellite receivers. Please update your comment as it is misleading to people and quite pointless to mention that agreement when there is a well sourced and quoted link from official EU website showing 0% import fees on satellite receivers.

    The problem with that logic is that the Revenue office decide on what the import duty should be, they're not necessarily going to calculate it using the same Taric code you think it is, and it's cumbersome trying to claim it back if they get it wrong. Not to mention handling fees. Much easier to buy from the EU.


  • #18
    notajim
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭notajim


    Do you think revenue are opening every package to inspect it before deciding fee structure? The seller electronically declares what's in it using the taric code which figures out the import fees automatically thus ppl getting an email from courier as soon as it hits irish distribution center with fees decided instantly by computer, not Mary from the revenue who god love her has been working 24hrs a day to keep the packages flowing.


  • #19
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Bought an enigma 2 receiver of WOS 2 weeks back.
    I usually get it sent to NI address however it was coming in £5 cheaper to ROI or so I thought until DPD sent me invoice for €23 to clear customs

    £86 to NI
    £81 to Republic + €23 to clear customs.

    Won't be caught again.


  • #20
    athlone573
    Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭athlone573


    notajim wrote: »
    Do you think revenue are opening every package to inspect it before deciding fee structure? The seller electronically declares what's in it using the taric code which figures out the import fees automatically thus ppl getting an email from courier as soon as it hits irish distribution center with fees decided instantly by computer, not Mary from the revenue who god love her has been working 24hrs a day to keep the packages flowing.

    Mary was working up until last year at least.
    The computer has been getting it wrong in some cases, as you can see from the posters who have been charged duty.


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