Working from home and future of city centres

It's anybody's guess really.

Lots of smaller shops will have been killed off by the covid restrictions.
High street shops will probably be ok, they have larger reserves.

But, once all this blows over things will be back to normal. Remember that the much much deadlier 1918 pandemic only lasted two years.

I was already working 100% from home and opted to rent an office in the city. It wouldn't surprise me if co-working spaces become popular.

Scope of thread is bigger than Galway city, moved to Corona forum.

Deleted User wrote: »

What happens if companies don’t really bother to hire Irish anymore? Surely a person in Poland or India could do the same job from their home?

But they were already doing this way before Covid. And these two locations locations are too expensive comparing to Africa or Indonesia. But if companies by some reason were interested in local hires in areas where job can be done remotely.

The trick for villages will be to allow the provision of serviced estates walking distance to the village , where each plot of land in the serviced estate can be built on with individual designs. Very common in other EU countries and a few of these can bring life back into any village.

I think there was a segment on eco eye or similar a few weeks back and it was very interesting. With the huge boost in working from home, these serviced sites in estates walking distance to village centres are the way forward to arrest population decline in rural ireland.

This will lend itself to efficent roll out of broadband, elec, gas & wastewater .

City center will have tourism . still have museums, concerts.

And if there are tourists, concerts and parks you will have restaurants.

I cant see retailing changing much though. no one in Dublin anyway goes into center Dublin to buy a washing machine or a fridge.

only small change i see will be offices. People will want to get back to the office for 2 or 3 days a week, so they might get a bit smaller.
Still have them, just wont be as big. and anyway pre covid, offices were moving out anyway cause of high rents.
People will want to get back to teh office for 2 or 3 days a week, so they might get a bit smaller.

Rents will stay high, cause come September 2021, we are going to have a massive economic boom. people are itching to go out, to go spend,

So OP, i see little change.

Offices will have a younger vibe to it and a better social scene for them.


Older group will continue to work from home 3 days or more a week.
Local shops will do well now.


It could bring house prices down in Dublin City also as more look to move from Dublin, something we are thinking about

Thats me wrote: »

Wy the hell we, older group, will be back to office for one or two days a week while logical extension of WFH is WFS (Work From Spain) ?

Would there be tax implications there for either the employers or employee if some of the staff decided to work abroad.

Would transfer of data be an issue and things like software licenses etc.

City centres are over rated.

Dublin city becomes a ghost town once rush hour is over, and all you have/had is tourists in the main in the evening. It similar in other cities too.

City centres should be more than about jobs and the rat race they've become.

I have a feeling that it won't be long before things are the way they were. In other words, people back in offices.

For the first while, sure, there'll be the option to "work from home", but (and especially) with younger / lower ranking office staff, they'll soon be "encouraged" to be in the office more / all the time, so they can be kept an eye on number one, but also because companies have all this space and they won't want it to be not used.

Plus, younger workers will miss out on the after-work social life, so they'll want to get back to having that. And many large multi-nationals give them free food, all day long. They'll want that back too.

I'd say it'll be the older workers / those with kids / management generation who'll take the opportunity to WFH and will be allowed to more.

Personally I can see myself going into the office maybe 2 / 5 days of the week. My role is client facing so it's likely I'll be out and about anyway. I still like the city centre (Dublin), am fed up making my own lunch everyday, and I miss being able to pop uptown to the shops at lunchtime.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

"Living over the shop" concept has been revived thanks to the Living City initiative.

Here in Waterford the Michael Street part of the North Quays Development has been refocused from shopping to living & leisure/tourism.

Centres have been in declining for years in piecemeal fashion and we all knew it but it's taken Covid to focus proper attention on what a city centre is for.

It's for people not chain shops and the cars they usually attract.

People will be working in the centre but it'll be a different profile over time, the proverbial "shoeshine boys" will have different customers.

I was under the impression that the living city imitative was a bit of a failure due to there being such a low up take.

Thats me wrote: »

There should be no big issue with it within EU. Taxes are paid in the country where person was working most of the time during a year. May be can create additional complexity for the company's own reporting.

Data transfer may be an issue in some cases, but there should not be a problem with commercial data within Union since all countries have same GDPR legislation. Never saw software licence linked to particular country, if this the case then this may be a reason to consider using software with less restrictive licensing.

Different countries (even within the EU) have different employment laws, different public holidays and also for Irish PAYE, they'd need to be registered with the Revenue.

There are companies who specialize in global HR and payroll but there's an overhead to using them.