WWE TLC 2020 (Contains Spoilers)

Reigns power bombs KO onto a Ladder - Cole decides to shout “SPINEBUSTER THROUGH THE TABLE”

Chap can’t even call a simple move!

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Reigns Owens match should have been the main event closer

Well, against better my own better judgment, I was awake last night and flicked TLC.

As a whole it wasnt a bad PPV, but the usual WWE problems persist.

The opener WWE title match was good/ The addition of The Miz was a good way to use MITB cash in, but the drama was low as I never really expected AJ or Miz to unseat Drew.

Mens Tag match was good and I am liking where they are going with Cedric. Shades of Rock in the Nation but on a much small scale.

Womens match was ok, Carmella hasnt been built up enough and her feud with Sasha has been rushed. Back she goes into the pile. Ive no problem with the pushing Carmella, but her new persona is too fresh to be catapulted into the womens title picture without winning. Silly booking.

The Womens tag team match / Raw title scene is garbage. Firstly why book Lana to be destroyed each week only to go AWOL when she gets a chance for vengeance. Yes they might pick this story up later, but it just felt like a waste of time at this point.

Then you wheel out Charlotte and present her as a face. Shes a natural heel and no one cheers her, why place her in this spot. WWEs obsession with ramming her down our throat (like they do with all their prize pigs) rarely works. Charlotte is a star, but shes not a top face and fans wont accept her as such.

Roman vs Owens, like Drew vs AJ was a dead cert Roman win and thus the drama was absent. However, the booking was better and was nice seeing Roman throw Owens around. That said, Owens shouldnt be making a comeback after all that. I would rather Reigns just crush Owens.

Ah Orton v Wyatt. I dont hate the hokey Wyatt stuff as a much as most, i can see the value in the character in the same way WWE presented Taker in 93-95. Im sure kids eat this stuff up..... problem is, do many kids watch WWE much ? And if their parents do let them watch, they wont be happy with Randy going full homicidal arsonist at the end. My daughter certainly wont be watching that.

Adults do want garbage fire and arsonist bollox, so who is this for? Who does the Wyatt Orton feud appeal to? Its not aimed at kids, its not working for adults? Its just a another huge mis-step for WWE. I stopped caring about Wyatt ages ago but I can see how his character would work with a younger audience..... but not now. It jumped the shark massively here (if it had not already jumped it for others). Pull the plug now.

WWE PPV's remind me WWE have very talented wrestlers but they are guided by an over produced, out of touch creative team that devalue any work the talent are capable of. With AEW breathing down WWEs neck, WWE need to sort their **** out if they hope to compete product wise with AEW.

beakerjoe wrote: »

Well, against better my own better judgment, I was awake last night and flicked TLC.

As a whole it wasnt a bad PPV, but the usual WWE problems persist.

The opener WWE title match was good/ The addition of The Miz was a good way to use MITB cash in, but the drama was low as I never really expected AJ or Miz to unseat Drew.

Mens Tag match was good and I am liking where they are going with Cedric. Shades of Rock in the Nation but on a much small scale.

Womens match was ok, Carmella hasnt been built up enough and her feud with Sasha has been rushed. Back she goes into the pile. Ive no problem with the pushing Carmella, but her new persona is too fresh to be catapulted into the womens title picture without winning. Silly booking.

The Womens tag team match / Raw title scene is garbage. Firstly why book Lana to be destroyed each week only to go AWOL when she gets a chance for vengeance. Yes they might pick this story up later, but it just felt like a waste of time at this point.

Then you wheel out Charlotte and present her as a face. Shes a natural heel and no one cheers her, why place her in this spot. WWEs obsession with ramming her down our throat (like they do with all their prize pigs) rarely works. Charlotte is a star, but shes not a top face and fans wont accept her as such.

Roman vs Owens, like Drew vs AJ was a dead cert Roman win and thus the drama was absent. However, the booking was better and was nice seeing Roman throw Owens around. That said, Owens shouldnt be making a comeback after all that. I would rather Reigns just crush Owens.

Ah Orton v Wyatt. I dont hate the hokey Wyatt stuff as a much as most, i can see the value in the character in the same way WWE presented Taker in 93-95. Im sure kids eat this stuff up..... problem is, do many kids watch WWE much ? And if their parents do let them watch, they wont be happy with Randy going full homicidal arsonist at the end. My daughter certainly wont be watching that.

Adults do want garbage fire and arsonist bollox, so who is this for? Who does the Wyatt Orton feud appeal to? Its not aimed at kids, its not working for adults? Its just a another huge mis-step for WWE. I stopped caring about Wyatt ages ago but I can see how his character would work with a younger audience..... but not now. It jumped the shark massively here (if it had not already jumped it for others). Pull the plug now.

WWE PPV's remind me WWE have very talented wrestlers but they are guided by an over produced, out of touch creative team that devalue any work the talent are capable of. With AEW breathing down WWEs neck, WWE need to sort their **** out if they hope to compete product wise with AEW.

The problem is that kids most certainly do not watch WWE at anywhere near the levels they used to. They aren't making new fans and the core pro wrestling audience (males 18-49, and worse, males 18-34 are way down too).

It's Miz's own fault. Can kind of understand guys in a long match climbing the ladder slowly but Miz just arrived and he took his time. As if he hasn't seen or been in enough ladder matches to know how quickly people come back to knock someone off the ladder.
AJ's bodyguard was quite useless. He didn't stop Drew from climbing before Miz came out.
Miz shold dispute tat he cashed in the MitB case as it was actually Morrison who handed the case over.

As for the Charlotte return, I don't care. She was everywhere before she went out, didn't really care she was gone and now she's back and how long until she gets her multiple title matches until she wins? Was she written off in anyway or just disappear?

Nice to see Randy has been caught on camera committing homicide. though for someone on fire, Bray was very still.

Randy just taking the advice of the song
"We'll make a bonfire of our troubles and we'll watch them blaze away"

Whatever about the main event but it's a great photo...

TimesArrow wrote: »

Why would Orton Wyatt headline this PPV? Is this ridiculous feud meant to take precedence over both world titles?

It main evented due to the nature of the finish.

In McMahon's eyes its 1994 Undertaker big.

That finish was ok when a your world Champ was in the match and be your audience is mainly younger fans.

But WWE are not creating young fans and the violence displayed will ensure the young fans they have will not be watching wwe anymore.

The Fiend is too scary and violent for kids..... too lame and hokey for adults.

Who the fcuk is he aimed at?

So Randy Orton murdered Bray Wyatt by burning him alive on a live PPV and he hasn't been arrested yet.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So Randy Orton murdered Bray Wyatt by burning him alive on a live PPV and he hasn't been arrested yet.

Ah but the fiend isnt a natural living person

Im half expecting Human Bray Wyatt to pop up on Raw untouched with a few fire puns