General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

martyos121 · 17-12-2020 02:50PM

Agent Coulson wrote:

Hopefully it's not abused just to make changes when 3 subs are used up or used instead of using up normal subs.

Taking a player off for a suspected concussion should result in a mandatory medical suspension of at least a week for the player's safety.

That's how you stop the rule being abused, but it's football and that makes too much sense, so it won't happen.

Lucas Hood · 17-12-2020 02:52PM

The opposition gets to make a sub at same time if someone has to go off with suspected concussion to stop teams abusing it.

Wuff Wuff · 17-12-2020 02:55PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Taking a player off for a suspected concussion should result in a mandatory medical suspension of at least a week for the player's safety.

That's how you stop the rule being abused, but it's football and that makes too much sense, so it won't happen.

should be longer than a week, a team could play friday night, withdraw a player in the 75th minute for a "suspected head injury" abd then roll him out the following saturday or sunday

should be if a player is withrawn for a medical substituion they automtically miss the next game week for their own safey.

should also be position specific, no subbing on a winger for a defender etc.

CSF · 17-12-2020 02:56PM

I would have thought that concussion substitutions should have to be approved by an independent doctor.

It can't just be another substitution. It is definitely required but should be properly managed.

17-12-2020 02:59PM

Are other countries using extra subs?

Agent Coulson · 17-12-2020 03:01PM

6 wrote: »

Are other countries using extra subs?

The premier league is the only major league not using it even the championship is using 5 subs.

17-12-2020 03:09PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The premier league is the only major league not using it even the championship is using 5 subs.

Strange. Maybe the prem players can deal with a condensed season better than other leagues..

Smaller teams will suffer here towards the final 3rd of the season.

Lucas Hood · 17-12-2020 03:11PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The premier league is the only major league not using it even the championship is using 5 subs.

Not to mention the CL & EL both allow 5 subs.

17-12-2020 03:16PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Not to mention the CL & EL both allow 5 subs.

:pac::pac: Bizarre.

"Get 3 subs done"

Fitz* · 17-12-2020 03:45PM

Going by Jamie Jackson, the way the teams voted for/against 5 subs is this;

A pretty even split of traditional top half clubs against traditional bottom half clubs.

1 Liverpool For
2 Spurs For
3 Saints For
4 Leicester Against
5 Everton For
6 Chelsea For
7 West Ham Against
8 Man City For
9 Man Utd For
10 Wolves Against
11 Villa Against
12 Palace Against
13 Leeds Against
14 Newcastle Against
15 Arsenal For
16 Brighton For
17 Fulham Against
18 Burnley Against
19 WBA For
20 Sheff Utd Against

https://twitter.com/JamieJackson___/status/1339587822798323716

Agent Coulson · 17-12-2020 03:48PM

Didn’t Moyes say if he could vote again he would change his mind and vote for 5 subs a few weeks back.

Not that it would make a difference going by that it’s a 10/10 vote.

17-12-2020 04:00PM

A lot of teams fighting relegation voting against. Thought they'd want it come April/May.

Corholio · 17-12-2020 04:00PM

Leicester and Wolves stand out in the against vote, and Brighton and WBA stand out voting for. It shows its not as clear cut as 'top v bottom' clubs. All clubs should just accept it now, a 4th vote would be absurd at this stage.

CSF · 17-12-2020 04:18PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Didn’t Moyes say if he could vote again he would change his mind and vote for 5 subs a few weeks back.

Not that it would make a difference going by that it’s a 10/10 vote.

He did, but its not his decision to vote on that.

Agent Coulson · 17-12-2020 05:23PM

The FA have charged Cavani.

Edinson Cavani has been charged with misconduct for a breach of FA Rule E3 in relation to a social media post on Thursday 29 November 2020.

It is alleged that, contrary to FA Rule E3.1, a comment posted on the Manchester United FC player’s Instagram page was insulting and/or abusive and/or improper and/or brought the game into disrepute.

It is further alleged that the comment constitutes an “Aggravated Breach”, which is defined in FA Rule E3.2, as it included reference, whether express or implied, to colour and/or race and/or ethnic origin.

The striker has until Monday 4 January 2021 to provide a response to the charge

https://www.thefa.com/news/2020/dec/17/edinson-cavani-charged-with-misconduct-171220

TitianGerm · 17-12-2020 06:20PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Taking a player off for a suspected concussion should result in a mandatory medical suspension of at least a week for the player's safety.

That's how you stop the rule being abused, but it's football and that makes too much sense, so it won't happen.

That's a good idea actually.

Shanotheslayer · 17-12-2020 06:24PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Taking a player off for a suspected concussion should result in a mandatory medical suspension of at least a week for the player's safety.

That's how you stop the rule being abused, but it's football and that makes too much sense, so it won't happen.

I like it. They could specify at the time if it was precautionary or actual concussion. That way they could use a normal sub. If it happend in 80th minute or something etc

pjohnson · 17-12-2020 06:40PM

Isn't that how it is in rugby? Theres set "Return to Play" protocols.

ItsHoggie · 17-12-2020 06:45PM

I tried getting amazon to swap my region over but they said I couldn’t because first they said I don’t have Prime Video and then said I don’t have a .co.uk subscription but a .com one. Even though accessing the Prime .Co.uk website works away grand. My region on the amazon app is set to United Kingdom as well.

Shanotheslayer · 17-12-2020 06:54PM

Not sure where to post, but anyway I'm sure this will go down like a house on fire.

Klopp won Manager of the Year. Not sure what else Bayern Manager can do but win a treble and he still doesn't get it.

Agent Coulson · 17-12-2020 06:57PM

The clubs also voted today on a new 3 year deal with beIN sports the vote was 19 to 1 worth £367m.

That 1 against was Newcastle.

I'm guessing the Saudi's won't be coming in for a takeover for at 3 years now.

Keys & Gray get to keep their jobs in the Middle East.

DM_7 · 17-12-2020 07:00PM

Son won goal of the year.

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1339638069050433536?s=20

Collie D · 17-12-2020 07:02PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The clubs also voted today on a new 3 year deal with beIN sports the vote was 19 to 1 worth £367m.

That 1 against was Newcastle.

I'm guessing the Saudi's won't be coming in for a takeover for at 3 years now.

Keys & Gray get to keep their jobs in the Middle East.

Were Newcastle holding out for more?

Agent Coulson · 17-12-2020 07:05PM

Collie D wrote: »

Were Newcastle holding out for more?

Nah I think it was just a statement vote for Saudi takeover of the club being stopped due to the pirating of beIN sports by the Saudis.

Collie D · 17-12-2020 07:06PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Nah I think it was just a statement vote for Saudi takeover of the club being stopped due to the pirating of beIN sports by the Saudis.

You did allude to that in fairness but went way over my head

TitianGerm · 17-12-2020 07:07PM

DM_7 wrote: »

Son won goal of the year.

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1339638069050433536?s=20

First piece of Silverware for the Spurs Trophy cabinet this year. Think they're going to win one of the cups at least, I've a few euro on them in the EL.

Fitz* · 17-12-2020 07:16PM

Is De Gea dropped for Henderson tonight's game?

Started the last 2 and is on the bench tonight. It's hardly an injury and keepers don't really get rested. Can't get tired anyways!

Shanotheslayer · 17-12-2020 07:24PM

Fitz* wrote: »

Is De Gea dropped for Henderson tonight's game?

Started the last 2 and is on the bench tonight. It's hardly an injury and keepers don't really get rested. Can't get tired anyways!

From what I read he's rested. To be fair Ancelloti has been doing the same with Pickford.

No clue how it makes sense !

bucketybuck · 17-12-2020 07:24PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Taking a player off for a suspected concussion should result in a mandatory medical suspension of at least a week for the player's safety.

That's how you stop the rule being abused, but it's football and that makes too much sense, so it won't happen.

TitianGerm wrote: »

That's a good idea actually.

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I like it. They could specify at the time if it was precautionary or actual concussion. That way they could use a normal sub. If it happend in 80th minute or something etc

That idea is how you get teams leaving players on the field with possible head injuries because they don't want to risk losing them for a full week.

In other words, the exact opposite of what they are trying to achieve.

Shanotheslayer · 17-12-2020 07:25PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

That idea is how you get teams leaving players on the field with possible head injuries because they don't want to risk losing them for a full week.

In other words, the exact opposite of what they are trying to achieve.

As opposed to what currently happens? Which they do anyway.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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