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Did you smash it · 11-11-2020 04:53PM

Renegadema wrote: »

I want a sports show where the interviewer just stops these people mid sentence and says “sorry, but that is just wrong, can you try a different opinion”.

Related to this theme Daniel Harris said on OTB AM this morning that Man utd had analyzed 17 million fullbacks before signing AAron Wan Bissaka.

Reminded me of this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eHQG6-DojVw

Morris Moss · 11-11-2020 07:19PM

The more I listen to Paul McGinley the more I dislike him, he has a serious arrogance about him, Peter Lawrie is much better to listen to.

11-11-2020 08:25PM

Morris Moss wrote: »

The more I listen to Paul McGinley the more I dislike him, he has a serious arrogance about him, Peter Lawrie is much better to listen to.

Funny, that's how I feel about Richie McCormack!

Not hugely into golf, but enjoyed Pádraig Harrington on tonight about the Masters.

RonaVirus · 12-11-2020 10:49AM

Richie McCormack has to be up there for the worlds worst person.

Literally worse than Hitler and Stalin combined.

Piehead · 12-11-2020 10:55AM

RonaVirus wrote: »

Richie McCormack has to be up there for the worlds worst person.

Literally worse than Hitler and Stalin combined.

What’s he doing now ? He’s been extra bitter since his pay cut.

Did you smash it · 12-11-2020 01:04PM

God, Dion Fanning is hard to listen to, a slow speaking waffler

generalgerry · 12-11-2020 07:38PM

So THAT'S what inconsistency is! Thanks John.

Higgins5473 · 13-11-2020 11:01PM

Quite surprised at Gilroy cutting into Stephen Kenny tonight, it's usually toeing the party line with these guys and the common consensus is that Kenny is building something and is in a transitional phase, which is of course a load of bollocks but he's usually with whatever he thinks will make him seem popular, why is Gilroy slating him?

Piehead · 13-11-2020 11:32PM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Quite surprised at Gilroy cutting into Stephen Kenny tonight, it's usually toeing the party line with these guys and the common consensus is that Kenny is building something and is in a transitional phase, which is of course a load of bollocks but he's usually with whatever he thinks will make him seem popular, why is Gilroy slating him?

Just being cranky I’d say

Thelonious Monk · 15-11-2020 04:47PM

I'm trying to hear updates on the Ireland game and team selection etc but I have to keep turning off the radio because I just can't listen to that Tommy Welsh bloke or whatever his name is who does the udpates for GAA matches.
Up there with Ciara Kelly in having the most annoying voice/personality on radio.

15-11-2020 06:04PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm trying to hear updates on the Ireland game and team selection etc but I have to keep turning off the radio because I just can't listen to that Tommy Welsh bloke or whatever his name is who does the udpates for GAA matches.
Up there with Ciara Kelly in having the most annoying voice/personality on radio.

The Tommy Walsh bloke with nine Celtic Crosses and nine successive All Stars? I think some people struggle with an accent that's not Mid Atlantic and clipped on the radio or TV. He's just rural and raw. I love hearing his contributions as he talks more common sense than most of the other clipped voices on OTB put together.

Also, he was reporting on a Munster final, while the Ireland-Wales games is about as meaningless a game as you could imagine, despite the talking up of the possibility that we'll drop into pot 3 if we lose, which doesn't actually mean a whole pile. And that's from an avid Irish football supporter.

Thelonious Monk · 15-11-2020 06:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The Tommy Walsh bloke with nine Celtic Crosses and nine successive All Stars?

No idea what that means. But whatever he is, I'm allergic to him.

15-11-2020 06:17PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No idea what that means. But whatever he is, I'm allergic to him.

Fair play to you.

He's a hugely popular pundit.

gormdubhgorm · 15-11-2020 07:15PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm trying to hear updates on the Ireland game and team selection etc but I have to keep turning off the radio because I just can't listen to that Tommy Welsh bloke or whatever his name is who does the udpates for GAA matches.
Up there with Ciara Kelly in having the most annoying voice/personality on radio.

Deleted User wrote: »

The Tommy Walsh bloke with nine Celtic Crosses and nine successive All Stars? I think some people struggle with an accent that's not Mid Atlantic and clipped on the radio or TV. He's just rural and raw. I love hearing his contributions as he talks more common sense than most of the other clipped voices on OTB put together.

Also, he was reporting on a Munster final, while the Ireland-Wales games is about as meaningless a game as you could imagine, despite the talking up of the possibility that we'll drop into pot 3 if we lose, which doesn't actually mean a whole pile. And that's from an avid Irish football supporter.

Obviously not a hurling/GAA fan Thelonious Monk and a Dub I assume?
Tommy Walsh is a breathe of fresh air as pundit - loads of energy and exuberance.
If people were able to step away from thier biases against a sport/accent they would simply hear an enthusiastic individual full of life who loves his sport of hurling.

Ireland game was live on BBC Wales by the way. Nathan Blake pulled no punches about Ireland. Nor did the other pundits on. Would never have heard the like on Irish radio.

Thelonious Monk · 15-11-2020 08:12PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Obviously not a hurling/GAA fan Thelonious Monk and a Dub I assume?

A Dub yes although I don't know why that matters, no I don't really like GAA, I can usually put up with match reports but that guy just does my head in.

Ol' Donie · 15-11-2020 08:19PM

Tommy Walsh is brilliant as a pundit.

Chalk McHugh · 15-11-2020 09:12PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Obviously not a hurling/GAA fan Thelonious Monk and a Dub I assume?
Tommy Walsh is a breathe of fresh air as pundit - loads of energy and exuberance.
If people were able to step away from thier biases against a sport/accent they would simply hear an enthusiastic individual full of life who loves his sport of hurling.

Ireland game was live on BBC Wales by the way. Nathan Blake pulled no punches about Ireland. Nor did the other pundits on. Would never have heard the like on Irish radio.

Tommy Walsh is a fantastic man to listen to. One of the best hurling pundits on tv or radio. He calls it straight with no frills and no nonsense. Top notch.

gormdubhgorm · 15-11-2020 10:25PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

A Dub yes although I don't know why that matters, no I don't really like GAA, I can usually put up with match reports but that guy just does my head in.

Because you wouldn't be used to listening to Culchies.
Have to tune into the lingo. Once you hear the accent being an out and out soccer man would hard for you to tune in.
Different worlds.
Soccer is very Dublin Centric barring the odd intruder from Cork/Dundalk etc.

Thelonious Monk · 15-11-2020 10:39PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Because you wouldn't be used to listening to Culchies.
Have to tune into the lingo. Once you hear the accent being an out and out soccer man would hard for you to tune in.
Different worlds.
Soccer is very Dublin Centric barring the odd intruder from Cork/Dundalk etc.

But I like loads of "culchie" broadcasters, just your man does my head in.
Isn't Dublin the GAA cup champions now or something anyway? Surely it's big here too.

16-11-2020 07:07AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

But I like loads of "culchie" broadcasters, just your man does my head in.
Isn't Dublin the GAA cup champions now or something anyway? Surely it's big here too.

Thelonious is too clever for the savage games. Cultural self loathing. As my father used to say of the barflies in my local town, there's nothing as depressing as those who advertise their own ignorance. Personally, I think the only thing I find as depressing as gormless old GAA men who hate 'soccer' with a passion is the devout football men who look down their noses at GAA.

Abel Ruiz · 16-11-2020 07:41AM

Ger gilroy proving again, that he's the biggest as$hhhole in Ireland.

Is there anyone that likes him? Seriously, please explain one or two positives about him.

Brock Turnpike · 16-11-2020 08:40AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thelonious is too clever for the savage games. Cultural self loathing. As my father used to say of the barflies in my local town, there's nothing as depressing as those who advertise their own ignorance. Personally, I think the only thing I find as depressing as gormless old GAA men who hate 'soccer' with a passion is the devout football men who look down their noses at GAA.

Isn't there a happy medium? Someone who likes one or the other but isn't a fan of the other without having to be tagged as self loathing?

Chalk McHugh · 16-11-2020 09:34AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thelonious is too clever for the savage games. Cultural self loathing. As my father used to say of the barflies in my local town, there's nothing as depressing as those who advertise their own ignorance. Personally, I think the only thing I find as depressing as gormless old GAA men who hate 'soccer' with a passion is the devout football men who look down their noses at GAA.

And both of these narrow minded bores to be topped by the rugby snob who looks down with disdain on the countries two biggest sports.

gormdubhgorm · 16-11-2020 12:19PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

But I like loads of "culchie" broadcasters, just your man does my head in.
Isn't Dublin the GAA cup champions now or something anyway? Surely it's big here too.

The fact you said 'GAA cup champions' means that you are being deliberately obtuse. You sound like one of those blinkered anti GAA Irish Soccer fellas which boils down to jealousy of the GAA.

A LOI supporter would be aware of the overlap between the GAA and the league.
Kevin Moran, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Michael Donnellan, Jason Sherlock and Shane Cake Curran etc

Were you a regular LOI supporter pre covid ? Because being such a soccer man people would think you should be.

Or are you one of those who just follows the English Premier League and says 'we' for one of their teams. Plus follows the ROI because the players play in England? A plastic Irish soccer man? The hypocrite who has no interest or laughs at the LOI.

Thelonious Monk · 16-11-2020 12:24PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

The fact you said 'GAA cup champions' means that you are being deliberately obtuse. You sound like one of those blinkered anti GAA Irish Soccer fella which boils down to jealousy of the GAA.

A LOI supporter would be aware of the overlap between the GAA and the league.
Kevin Moran, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Michael Donnellan, Jason Sherlock and Shane Cake Curran etc

Were you a regular LOI supporter pre covid ? Because being such a soccer man people would think you should be.

Or are you one of those who just follows the English Premier League and says 'we' for one of their teams. Plus follows the ROI because the players play in England? A plastic Irish soccer man?

I only go to Bohs games on and off for nearly 40 years, and have been to many Ireland games over the years. This is what people don't get, Bohemians and that area and being brought there by my uncle and Dad is what my culture is, so when people say I'm cringeing at my own culture or something when it comes to GAA, well it just feels like nothing to do with me, I was never involved with it or understood it. It's not my culture anyway.
When I lived in London I went to see about 10 different clubs but I'm not a die hard soccer fan or anything, I just don't like GAA, but people seem to be offended by that.

gormdubhgorm · 16-11-2020 01:24PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I only go to Bohs games on and off for nearly 40 years, and have been to many Ireland games over the years. This is what people don't get, Bohemians and that area and being brought there by my uncle and Dad is what my culture is, so when people say I'm cringeing at my own culture or something when it comes to GAA, well it just feels like nothing to do with me, I was never involved with it or understood it. It's not my culture anyway.
When I lived in London I went to see about 10 different clubs but I'm not a die hard soccer fan or anything, I just don't like GAA, but people seem to be offended by that.

Explains a lot. You are only a halfhearted Irish soccer man when it comes down to it. Bohs 'off and on'. Yet you describe it as your 'culture'.
It is not the fact you don't like the GAA, that people think that makes you sound bitter.
It is the fact you seem to go out of the way to denigrate it that would wind people up. You know exactly what you are doing.

Ok fair enough, having lived in England you may identify more with them. No problem with that. But you seem to go out of your way to denigrate others who like the GAA. Or are involved with it.

For such a 'cultured man' who likes an American jazz man and fancy craft beers.
Would you not think your horizons are rather narrow when it comes down to it?
As you seem to go out of your way to distance yourself from the GAA (and disparage it) all for the sake of an air of sophistication and sounding superior.

A real sports fan would appreciate the passion fans/pundits show to sports they have no interest in. Not go out of their way to denigrate it.

I find anyone who has to denigrate other sports normally have underlying issues. Added to a narrow viewpoint and horizon.

You would think after 40 odd years? You would have grown out of such behaviour? It will give you ulcers.
Having such a hatred and belittling attitude for something as benign as a sporting organisation, like the GAA, is irrational and childish.

Thelonious Monk · 16-11-2020 02:13PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Explains a lot. You are only a halfhearted Irish soccer man when it comes down to it. Bohs 'off and on'. Yet you describe it as your 'culture'.
It is not the fact you don't like the GAA, that people think that makes you sound bitter.
It is the fact you seem to go out of the way to denigrate it that would wind people up. You know exactly what you are doing.

Ok fair enough, having lived in England you may identify more with them. No problem with that. But you seem to go out of your way to denigrate others who like the GAA. Or are involved with it.

For such a 'cultured man' who likes an American jazz man and fancy craft beers.
Would you not think your horizons are rather narrow when it comes down to it?
As you seem to go out of your way to distance yourself from the GAA (and disparage it) all for the sake of an air of sophistication and sounding superior.

A real sports fan would appreciate the passion fans/pundits show to sports they have no interest in. Not go out of their way to denigrate it.

I find anyone who has to denigrate other sports normally have underlying issues. Added to a narrow viewpoint and horizon.

You would think after 40 odd years? You would have grown out of such behaviour? It will give you ulcers.
Having such a hatred and belittling attitude for something as benign as a sporting organisation, like the GAA, is irrational and childish.

Do I like fancy craft beers? Not particularly. I would usually drink Guinness when pubs are open.
If I'm not a real sports fan I couldn't care less, I watch most sports casually, whatever that makes me. Such a hatred is a stretch, I just ignore it as best I can, but when your man comes on the radio I have to turn him off as he grates on me. That was my only point.
I seem to have gotten under your skin though for some reason.

Tell me how · 16-11-2020 02:59PM

Abel Ruiz wrote: »

Ger gilroy proving again, that he's the biggest as$hhhole in Ireland.

Is there anyone that likes him? Seriously, please explain one or two positives about him.

He has brought OTB from a fledgling weekend show to a multi-platform 7 day a week and special events standalone company.
He is knowledgeable on most sports.
He is a reasonable interviewer, not the best, but far from the worst.
He's views or questions are interesting and create interesting discussions with guests even if you disagree with them.

At this point, I think some people have just got in their head that they hate him and that probably isn't going to change but he does his job very well.

gormdubhgorm · 16-11-2020 03:08PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Do I like fancy craft beers? Not particularly. I would usually drink Guinness when pubs are open.
If I'm not a real sports fan I couldn't care less, I watch most sports casually, whatever that makes me. Such a hatred is a stretch, I just ignore it as best I can, but when your man comes on the radio I have to turn him off as he grates on me. That was my only point.
I seem to have gotten under your skin though for some reason.

Under my skin? Not all I am just pointing out I can see through you. Styling yourself as the erudite cultured jazz man. On the one hand defending your 'culture' of supporting Bohs. Yet on closer inspection seemed to be luke warm at best.
Yet on the other hand you describe the GAA hurling championship as the 'GAA champions cup' as a wind up.

It is almost as if you are the working class guy 'done good' who has to create a veneer for himself. And has a massive chip on his shoulder about things he does not like.

I mean I am not a fan of Jazz. But I would appreciate a high skill level and dedication to the art. Much as you should have the curtesy and manners to do with hurling. Otherwise you just end up sounding like a bit of an eejit and people would not take you seriously. It is as if you need to knock something to feel better about yourself. Sad way to be imo

It happens a lot on boards.ie the anti-rugby poster who uses phrases such as 'goys'. Or 'egg ball'. The anti soccer poster who goes on about the garrison game, seoinín's and so on. In my view it betrays an inadequacy my sport > than yours and so on.

People even do it within similar sports football v hurling, pool v snooker. It is always the people with chips on their shoulders.

Thelonious Monk · 16-11-2020 03:17PM

I think you're digging a little too much into a quip on the GAA cup, tbh, have a nice day

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