New Worldwide Handicap System

prawnsambo · 31-10-2020 03:17PM

newport2 wrote: »

No, I spoke to him today, he hasn't seen them. I expect they'll be loaded at some point like you say. Do you know when the next data exchange is happening?

I'm assuming Monday since they are setting 4pm for the official release.

padmcv · 31-10-2020 03:19PM

Anyone else get kicked out of the registration before entering address for verification email? I seem to be stuck in no man's land...number reading as registered so can't start process again but email not linked

prawnsambo · 31-10-2020 03:19PM

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Still can't get logged in, some mess.

I said it on the other thread, but bears repeating. I'd say the login url 'escaped' rather than being released and they are currently in testing mode. A bit of a hint is that the confirmation emails are coming from a New Zealand email account and that's where DotGolf are based.

prawnsambo · 31-10-2020 03:21PM

padmcv wrote: »

Anyone else get kicked out of the registration before entering address for verification email? I seem to be stuck in no man's land...number reading as registered so can't start process again but email not linked

It didn't ask me for an email address. Mine was already in the database and it just came automatically after I entered my number and PIN.

dan_ep82 · 31-10-2020 04:20PM

Stuck in the verification loop unfortunately

Poker Face · 31-10-2020 04:31PM

newport2 wrote: »

No, I spoke to him today, he hasn't seen them. I expect they'll be loaded at some point like you say. Do you know when the next data exchange is happening?

It is supposed to be tomorrow. That's what we were told this week during a zoom call about WHS

slingerz · 31-10-2020 05:12PM

I got 9.3 from 10.2 but missing 6 scores, none of them good but will push my best out of the last 20. Four are unprocessed away scores in golfnet and two are more recent ones from October at my home club

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 05:14PM

so my verification mail came through after a good while.... then another, then another lol

anyway, first glance it looks like some scores are missing
25th July, QMH, NR, GD 19, ND 7
14th July, QSA, 32 points
30th June, QSA, 36 points
22nd Feb, QSO, 30 points

All above, qualifying and would make a difference to my handicap. Some other winter scores missing, but non qualifying to don't make a difference.

there are some other July scores present which are in between on 11th and 21st so it's not like a date range was missed.

having said that, My handicap at the end of September was 9.9. My initial HI as of same date....... 9.9.

This would give me a course handicap on my home club of 11 off the blues and 11 off the greens. Fairly spot on really, as I had an ESR of 1 shot in September

My current handicap is 10.4. I think when they add in the missing rounds from October and the ones above, some low scores will be dropping, so likely to go up a bit more.

For the guys in the know, should I pester the handicap secretary yet or wait for any updates which might get rolled out? Don't like to annoy them if not necessary, they are busy enough

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 05:19PM

new website looks pretty good

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 05:34PM

if you don't have a lookup chart how can you work out course handicap?

Rikand · 31-10-2020 05:57PM

Seve OB wrote: »

if you don't have a lookup chart how can you work out course handicap?

Handicap index * Slope Rating / 113

So for myself in Athlone off the whites

7.1*125/113 = 7.85 = 8

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 06:16PM

Seve OB wrote: »

This would give me a course handicap on my home club of 11 off the blues and 11 off the greens. Fairly spot on really, as I had an ESR of 1 shot in September

My current handicap is 10.4.

So on my second course I would get
Blue 135 - 12
White 133 - 12
Green 129 - 11

rounding those, is this correct?

is your playing handicap then 95% of above or 95% of exact?

Rikand · 31-10-2020 06:25PM

Seve OB wrote: »

So on my second course I would get
Blue 135 - 12
White 133 - 12
Green 129 - 11

rounding those, is this correct?

is your playing handicap then 95% of above or 95% of exact?

Green Tee should be 12 I think also (11.8). The 95% is applied after you have worked out your exact course handicap. Exact Course handicap *0.95 as per this on the FAQ

Why is there a Playing Handicap of 95%?

For competition purposes the 95% is required to balance out the increase in Course Handicaps of higher handicap players against that of lower handicap players.By applying the 95% adjustment on a course with a Slope rating of 130, a 36.0 Handicap Index player will have a Course Handicap of 41.4 (41) converted to a playing Handicap of 38.95 (39) but a 5.0 Handicap Index player will have a Course Handicap of 5.75 (6) converted to a Playing Handicap of 5.7 (6), therefore an adjustment is required for competition purposes

https://www.golfnet.ie/Documents/WHS%20Frequently%20Asked%20Questions.pdf

CalamariFritti · 31-10-2020 06:28PM

We were told by our club today that the current data on golf ireland is still a test data set. That there will be one more refresh on Monday and then a review phase next week. And that this is why they didnt advise us to sign up yet.

They probably had questions coming in today.

I can see some of the data isn't right myself. There is a good number of comps in my top 20 where the course/tee/slopes are wrong. Recent comps missing altogether.

Mantis Toboggan · 31-10-2020 06:34PM

Rikand wrote: »

Handicap index * Slope Rating / 113

So for myself in Athlone off the whites

7.1*125/113 = 7.85 = 8

Is there a 95% rule to be applied to this?

Rikand · 31-10-2020 06:42PM

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Is there a 95% rule to be applied to this?

In singles competitions, more than likely.

In fourballs, probably not.

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 06:43PM

Rikand wrote: »

Green Tee should be 12 I think also (11.8). The 95% is applied after you have worked out your exact course handicap. Exact Course handicap *0.95 as per this on the FAQ

https://www.golfnet.ie/Documents/WHS%20Frequently%20Asked%20Questions.pdf

9.9*129/113=11.30

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 06:46PM

Rikand wrote: »

In singles competitions, more than likely.

In fourballs, probably not.

why not in fourballs?
it used to be 90%
well it used to be 75%, never understood why it went to 90%. that was daft, just meant now you needed nearly 50 points a four ball comp!!!

31-10-2020 06:49PM

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Is there a 95% rule to be applied to this?

Looking at the playing handicap tables sent out by my club, it doesn't look like there is a 95% rule

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 06:59PM

ronnoco13 wrote: »

Looking at the playing handicap tables sent out by my club, it doesn't look like there is a 95% rule

there is, why do you think that?

afaik it is just for comps though ?

Poker Face · 31-10-2020 07:00PM

ronnoco13 wrote: »

Looking at the playing handicap tables sent out by my club, it doesn't look like there is a 95% rule

The Handicap Tables give you a Course Handicap. This then has to be converted to a Playing Handicap depending on the competition you are playing. For Singles it will more than likely be 95% of your Course Handicap

prawnsambo · 31-10-2020 07:08PM

Poker Face wrote: »

The Handicap Tables give you a Course Handicap. This then has to be converted to a Playing Handicap depending on the competition you are playing. For Singles it will more than likely be 95% of your Course Handicap

Yeah. 95% for strokeplay and stableford. That 95% is taken from your integer course handicap. Not the decimal. O think it's 75% for fourball.

Poker Face · 31-10-2020 07:23PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

Yeah. 95% for strokeplay and stableford. That 95% is taken from your integer course handicap. Not the decimal. O think it's 75% for fourball.

Think it may be still 90% for fourball but hopefully its gone back to 75% :-). Singles matchplay I think will be 100%

paulos53 · 31-10-2020 07:42PM

Fourball allowance has gone to 85% for Stableford & Stroke
90% for matchplay and V Par

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 07:45PM

paulos53 wrote: »

Fourball allowance has gone to 85% for Stableford & Stroke
90% for matchplay and V Par

is that 90% for fourball or singles?

paulos53 · 31-10-2020 07:48PM

The 90% was for fourball matchplay and fourball V Par

100% for singles matchplay

Walter Alright · 31-10-2020 09:47PM

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Stuck in the loop to, joke of a website, email address is from new Zealand!!

I’m still stuck in the loop. Did you get in?

The site is very annoying.

Seve OB · 31-10-2020 09:59PM

Walter Alright wrote: »

I’m still stuck in the loop. Did you get in?

The site is very annoying.

It just takes a while to get the verification.
Once you do the site is actually very good

spacecoyote · 31-10-2020 10:34PM

Stuck myself too.

Got the verification email, click on it, brings me to the sign up screen, click the log in button, enter id and password, brings me to another screen saying "complete the process by clicking on the verify link"

Very confused

dan_ep82 · 31-10-2020 10:39PM

spacecoyote wrote: »

Stuck myself too.

Got the verification email, click on it, brings me to the sign up screen, click the log in button, enter id and password, brings me to another screen saying "complete the process by clicking on the verify link"

Very confused

It all depends on when how many times you clicked resend verification. If you hit it 3 times you need to wait for the 3rd email etc. At least that's what I gather from here and some fb groups

New Worldwide Handicap System

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