Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

igCorcaigh · 05-10-2020 10:48PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Claire Byrne did her job well .

I thought she was very good too.
Pure pincer movement on Leo.

amadangomor · 05-10-2020 10:48PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

A lot of people here seem to be praising the government for standing up to NPHET. Showing them who's in charge, etc. It's bizarre, they're only trying to protect people. This isn't a win.

Think about the harm a lockdown now would do. That needs to be balanced with saving vunerable people. Not easy but that's the only way forward realistically.

FintanMcluskey · 05-10-2020 10:48PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Claire Byrne did her job well .

What part did she do well?

When she both interrupted and answered the question she just asked?

Or put words in Leo's mouth?

Chivito550 · 05-10-2020 10:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For being effectively forced out of his job if that transpires.

Dr Martin Feeley can take legal action in that case too so!

Jim_Hodge · 05-10-2020 10:49PM

Merrymac wrote: »

Can cafes and restaurants open for indoor dining at Level 3 after midnight tmrw?
According to the Plan Level 3 states they are open with restrictions on indoor dining however Dublin and Donegal were forced to close

Per RTE
In relation to bars, cafes, restaurants (including hotel restaurants and bars) as well so-called wet pubs, there will be additional restrictions in place.

In Dublin at present, restaurants and cafes (including bars/pubs serving food) remain open for takeaway and delivery and outdoor dining to a maximum of 15 people. Wet pubs are closed and will remain closed under the new restrictions.

In Donegal, wet pubs are open for takeaway and outdoor service to a maximum of 15 people. Wet pubs will remain open nationwide (apart from Dublin) under Level 3 restrictions.

However, there will be no indoor seating permitted in pubs. Instead there will be a maximum of 15 patrons allowed outdoors.

Mervyn Skidmore · 05-10-2020 10:49PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Its just not so simple and its foolish to think it is.

It was admitted tonight, NPHET are only concerned with Covid, no other health issues

Who admitted that? I missed it.

Thierry12 · 05-10-2020 10:49PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

A lot of people here seem to be praising the government for standing up to NPHET. Showing them who's in charge, etc. It's bizarre, they're only trying to protect people. This isn't a win.

80 people died today

0 from Covid

200,000 extra people will be on social welfare tomorrow because ICU beds went from 10 to 20

10 ****ing beds crashed an economy

lawrencesummers · 05-10-2020 10:50PM

Did anyone ask any of these government spokespeople what they intend to do when the cases don’t start decreasing two and three weeks into this lockdown?

Because I reckon they won’t.

Schools, colleges and foreign travel are three major problems That level 3 does nothing about.

Thomas.. · 05-10-2020 10:51PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

80 people died today

0 from Covid

200,000 extra people will be on social welfare tomorrow because ICU beds went from 10 to 20

10 ****ing beds crashed an economy

Add the fact it's not the ICU patients triggering Nphet

It's the lack of ICU capacity

niallo27 · 05-10-2020 10:51PM

People are forgetting in all of this we are going to level 3, we cannot leave our own county. We will have the harshest restrictions in the whole of Europe by tomorrow night.

FintanMcluskey · 05-10-2020 10:51PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Who admitted that? I missed it.

One of those boffins on one of the chairs, I have to watch it on the RTE player again as Claires incessant interruption was rather distracting

niallo27 · 05-10-2020 10:52PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Did anyone ask any of these government spokespeople what they intend to do when the cases don’t start decreasing two and three weeks into this lockdown?

Because I reckon they won’t.

Schools, colleges and foreign travel are three major problems That level 3 does nothing about.

Maybe go to level 4.

Queried · 05-10-2020 10:52PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

NPHET only consider Covid no other health issues.

Disgraceful

I can see where you're coming from but is part of their reasoning not about keeping hospital capacity to a level where people can access critical care for non Covid issues too?

martingriff · 05-10-2020 10:52PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Based on the last hour, it wouldn't be unlikely.

Ya I have gone from someone in NPHET to someone in the government circle who was at there meeting

froog · 05-10-2020 10:52PM

absolute ****show of a few days. it does appear like tony went on a mad solo run. i'd say his job is untenable right now and he will be asked to step aside. not sure how he can continue to work with government now, especially after leo threw him under the bus.

for the government, it is a gamble, no doubt about it. we will know if they made the correct call very soon, likely in two weeks time.

it's squeaky bum time to borrow a phrase from alex ferguson.

polesheep · 05-10-2020 10:52PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Amazing you can read the minds of all the other posters. Incredible

She read mine all right.

Lundstram · 05-10-2020 10:53PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Claire Byrne did her job well .

I'm normally a fan of hers but she was dreadful tonight. Asks a question then cuts him off half way through to ask another.

No one cares about her opinion, just ask the questions and let the person speak.

Happydays2020 · 05-10-2020 10:53PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Did anyone ask any of these government spokespeople what they intend to do when the cases don’t start decreasing two and three weeks into this lockdown?

Because I reckon they won’t.

Schools, colleges and foreign travel are three major problems That level 3 does nothing about.

why do you have an obsession with foreign travel?. The airports are about to go bust due to lack of custom, the airlines are losing money hand over fist and 10000's of people are cut off from family. It is not a problem.

seamus · 05-10-2020 10:53PM

Seems to be some weird games going on here alright. NPHET really pushing the "level 3 isn't good enough" line, when the statistics out of Dublin indicate that it's beginning to work. 3 and 7 day case averages for Dublin are declining, and Dublin's proportion of the overall cases is declining.

Seem short-sighted to declare a lockdown is necessary without giving level 3 (even poorly enforced) a chance to kick in. Iit'll be around the 21st of October before these new restrictions have any noticeable effect nationally

igCorcaigh · 05-10-2020 10:53PM

Thomas.. wrote: »

Add the fact it's not the ICU patients triggering Nphet

It's the lack of ICU capacity

Did I hear that the ICU capacity is 270+?

I was under the impression it was far less?

Now I'm confused...

JP Liz V1 · 05-10-2020 10:54PM

A popular Kilkenny hotel has been forced to close for a number of days after a Covid-19 outbreak among staff.

Four workers at the Newpark Hotel in the City tested positive for the virus last week.

The staff members reported feeling unwell and are now self-isolating.

Hotel management decided to close the premises from today, Monday, until Friday in line with health measures.

They hope to be open and operating as normal again from Friday onwards.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-hotel-forced-close-after-22793188

Mervyn Skidmore · 05-10-2020 10:54PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Think about the harm a lockdown now would do. That needs to be balanced with saving vunerable people. Not easy but that's the only way forward realistically.

I get that but the experts, the people who know what they are talking about, say we needed to go to level 5. Who are we to disagree? We might have opinions but that's it. What's the point in having experts at all if you just ignore them?

rob316 · 05-10-2020 10:55PM

Think it's inevitable holohan will have to step aside now as he has lost the confidence of the government and damaged NPHET relationship with them. Leo absolutely shredded them and holohan is the figure head of it.

billybonkers · 05-10-2020 10:55PM

Claire Byrne was just plain rude this evening

Dr. Bre · 05-10-2020 10:55PM

froog wrote: »

absolute ****show of a few days. it does appear like tony went on a mad solo run. i'd say his job is untenable right now and he will be asked to step aside. not sure how he can continue to work with government now, especially after leo threw him under the bus.

for the government, it is a gamble, no doubt about it. we will know if they made the correct call very soon, likely in two weeks time.

it's squeaky bum time to borrow a phrase from alex ferguson.

The next two weeks are critical

martingriff · 05-10-2020 10:55PM

gmisk wrote: »

He totally threw them under the bus.
But to be honest I kind of believe he was telling the truth

I wonder is this why Leo was in and not Martin. If it went pair shaped he could say the opposite but can agree if it looks advantageous. Or is he at a secret meeting with NPHET giving them there marching orders

Jim_Hodge · 05-10-2020 10:55PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Amazing you can read the minds of all the other posters. Incredible

We could have a poll, but you may not like the result.

Goldengirl · 05-10-2020 10:56PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

What takeovers? They're cooperating, it's not a takeover.

It's just extending what is there already .
Which is fine but not surge capacity as such .
It is not extra capacity for ICU except in a few places who already have high dependency care for their major surgery .. this would not be for sicker patients as expertise are in the big major hospitals' ICUs .

hotmail.com · 05-10-2020 10:56PM

Will the Greens leave the government?

EltonJohn69 · 05-10-2020 10:56PM

Can people go on holiday (non essential) with level 3 ?

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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