Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 04:05PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Little affect

Should read the data then. Slowing growth in Dublin compared to 2 weeks ago, definitely changes being seen

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 04:06PM

giveitholly wrote: »

So two weeks after opening the pubs they decide to close them again,that's the only change,how will that stop the spread?

At level three everybody should stay within their own counties

That should help even if it's a tough restriction on those with family, relations, partners in other counties

MerlinSouthDub · 05-10-2020 04:06PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Nationwide level 3 appropriate given the effect it’s having on Dublin’s growth rate.

Yep. Dublin's growth rate has definitely slowed and should slow further this week . Full impact of closing bars/restaurants would not have fed through yet. If Dublin can stabilise, no reason the rest of the country can't either. Biggest issue right now is the out-of-control outbreak in Northern Ireland. This will hit the border counties and beyond. Need some political leadership up North urgently

landofthetree · 05-10-2020 04:06PM

Eod100 wrote: »

They're just kicking the can down the road. Risk bringing level 5 around Christmas now. If people are resistant to level 5 can only imagine reaction if that happens. https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1313132103639478272?s=19

We should maybe plan ahead and bring in level 5 from Christmas eve at 6pm and lockdown for 4 weeks till Feb?

Gael23 · 05-10-2020 04:07PM

NPHET now needs to be disbanded

Rob A. Bank · 05-10-2020 04:07PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

To be honest, the cabinet have been hiding behind NPHET for months now when imposing measures. That ends today, they're on their own in a sense - following their own advice.

I mean behind the scenes briefings, NPHET will let it be known to every journalist the huge risks that the Government are about to take.

People will be furious when we are in level 5 restrictions in the run up to and during Christmas. NPHET will be out saying it was avoidable.

Yeaa...this is going to end well :rolleyes:

A bunch of politicians who have just read chapter 2 of the Ladybird 'Epidemiology and Virology for Dummies' book are going to overrule the science !

Luap · 05-10-2020 04:07PM

Does this make any difference to people working in an office atm? I am able to work from home. Should I be asked to work remotely?

billybonkers · 05-10-2020 04:08PM

https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1313132103639478272

ACitizenErased · 05-10-2020 04:08PM

Some counties don’t even need level 3 either so even with that its quite extreme

suicide_circus · 05-10-2020 04:08PM

Only Level 3???!!!!

THEYRE NOT TRUSTING THE SCIENCE

Ger Roe · 05-10-2020 04:08PM

is_that_so wrote: »

None tonight according to Zara King - scheduling issues. Duck and cover is my own take on it.

I think 'scheduling issues' might refer to the fact the some of the NPHET main players will be involved in other government briefings tonight. There certainly needs to be a state address from the podium today, communication with the public is such a leaky mess at the moment and the general mood of the nation is not good.

This government needs to plug the leaks and release info in a controlled and considered manner, otherwise we are heading to a very dark place in terms of public mood and potential compliance. If we go there, they (Gov) will only have themselves to blame.

Effective communication is crucial and they are failing badly on so many levels, at the moment.

Miike · 05-10-2020 04:08PM

Gael23 wrote: »

NPHET now needs to be disbanded

Care to tell us why?

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 04:09PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

To be honest, the cabinet have been hiding behind NPHET for months now when imposing measures. That ends today, they're on their own in a sense - following their own advice.

I mean behind the scenes briefings, NPHET will let it be known to every journalist the huge risks that the Government are about to take.

People will be furious when we are in level 5 restrictions in the run up to and during Christmas. NPHET will be out saying it was avoidable.

NPHET tend not to do much lobbying. They don't have that power and they've made their recommendation. Level 3 sets us up mentally for a possible/probable Level 5 in the next while or so because Sunday night to Monday morning is not the way to do that.

DeanAustin · 05-10-2020 04:09PM

Gradius wrote: »

It's the only sensible plan, yes I advocate for it.

The way I see it there are three ways to go about it.

1. Allow the current "plan" to continue and hope for a vaccine.
Billions of euros down the tube, 7 months of goodwill wasted, the economy on its knees ...and it has achieved nothing. Back to square one.

2. Pretend it doesn't exist and "live with the virus"
Ludicrous. The virus isn't going to disappear if it's let run rampant, the logic is insane. Kiss the entire hospital system goodbye and the economy is ruined and people sick left right and center.

3. Isolate the country and eradicate the disease.
Very difficult but it has an exit strategy. A return to normal with a reduced economy.

Only one of these strategies has light at the end of the tunnel.

The first bolded bit is your opinion and no one is advocating the 2nd point. Of course, if you learn to live with the virus, you don't pretend it doesn't exist. That would be stupid.

People, like me, advocating managing the virus believe that we should have guidelines that are enforcable and enforced. You continue to push the personal responsibility line and the messages about distancing, hand washing etc. You put measures in place to protect the most vulnerable. But you don't lock down the rest.

Locking down doesn't have light at the end of the tunnel as you can't get rid of the virus without a vaccine.

Jim_Hodge · 05-10-2020 04:09PM

Gael23 wrote: »

NPHET now needs to be disbanded

For doing precisely what they have been tasked to do? Please explain.

Sierra Oscar · 05-10-2020 04:09PM

is_that_so wrote: »

NPHET tend not to do much lobbying. They don't have that power and they've made their recommendation. Level 3 sets us up mentally for a possible/probable Level 5 in the next while or so because Sunday night to Monday morning is not the way to do that.

NPHET members have been engaging in off the record briefings for weeks now.

Look at last nights leak for example.

shinzon · 05-10-2020 04:09PM

Just to clarify if this is going ahead and no level 5 is the rest of the country moving to Level 3 and Dublin and Donegal staying at 4 ?

Shin

odyssey06 · 05-10-2020 04:10PM

Luap wrote: »

Does this make any difference to people working in an office atm? I am able to work from home. Should I be asked to work remotely?

Level 3 is:
Work from home unless absolutely necessary to attend in person.

Level 2 is:
Work from home if possible. If you can work from home, you are advised to only attend work for essential on-site meetings, inductions and training.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 04:10PM

Joke government

Wealth before health

TonyMaloney · 05-10-2020 04:10PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

NPHET members have been engaging in off the record briefings for weeks now.

Look at last nights leak for example.

the leak could well have come from the gov

GooglePlus · 05-10-2020 04:11PM

The same people who think level 3 countrywide is sufficient also thought we would never get to this situation in the first place.

Level 5 being pushed down the road, if the rumours are true. Tearing the bandage off nice a slowly while a new wound festers elsewhere.

BLIZZARD7 · 05-10-2020 04:11PM

Gael23 wrote: »

NPHET now needs to be disbanded

The government * needs to be disbanded

bennyl10 · 05-10-2020 04:11PM

shinzon wrote: »

Just to clarify if this is going ahead and no level 5 is the rest of the country moving to Level 3 and Dublin and Donegal staying at 4 ?

Shin

Everyone to 3
No one to 4

billybonkers · 05-10-2020 04:11PM

shinzon wrote: »

Just to clarify if this is going ahead and no level 5 is the rest of the country moving to Level 3 and Dublin and Donegal staying at 4 ?

Shin

Dublin and Donegal are at Level 3.765 not Level 4

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 05-10-2020 04:11PM

Can gyms remain open on level 3?

eagle eye · 05-10-2020 04:11PM

So the people we are supposed to trust to protect our health recommend level 5 and the crooked clowns voted in to run the country reject that advice.
More cases and more deaths on the way so.
Watch how they word it though, there'll be an escape clause so you can't blame Martin, Varadkar et al.

Ger Roe · 05-10-2020 04:12PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Can gyms remain open on level 3?

Even if they 'can'... should they?

MerlinSouthDub · 05-10-2020 04:12PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

the leak could well have come from the gov

Highly unlikely it came from the government. The government were clearly in shock when this came out last night, and it never looks good for a government to appear not to be in control.

mr_edge_to_you · 05-10-2020 04:12PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

For doing precisely what they have been tasked to do? Please explain.

You could argue, if they're advising of level 5 restrictions and the government gave taken minimal action (level 2 to 3), what's their purpose?

B.A._Baracus · 05-10-2020 04:12PM

Level system is getting a bit silly now.
So we are 3.5 now...

Not 4... 3.5 lol

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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