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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • #9392
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    You think we should completely isolate ourselves? Like North Korea. No one or nothing comes in or out?

    Not like North Korea that is laced with sanctions, no.

    Movement of people in and out needs to stop.


  • #9393
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not surprising https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1313122717022015490?s=19

    I'll do it if they're stuck


  • #9394
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    is_that_so wrote: »
    3+ for the rest with 4+ for Dublin and Donegal? Timescale 2 weeks minimum?

    Possibly. Think it would be 3 week minimum. Risk is they have to bring it level 5 after it anyway as Christmas quickly approaches


  • #9395
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Gradius wrote: »
    Not like North Korea that is laced with sanctions, no.

    Movement of people in and out needs to stop.

    North Korea minus the sanctions then? Where nothing and no-one at all gets in and out?


  • #9396
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    This would be the one
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/

    That's the one. Not sure why he even shared that, you're dead right.


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  • #9397
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,349 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Thomas.. wrote: »
    I'm not getting something here

    Why is there "consternation in government" that the recommendations are not being flagged in advance?

    Does Nphet have to flag in advance that they are going to make new recommendations to the government in private, which the government then leaked?

    Would be like ringing a friend to tell them you're going to ring them tomorrow

    Not only that but then you would have people pissed off that NPHET have announced they are going to recommend new restrictions without saying what those restrictions are. Plus, I imagine NPHET decide new restrictions are needed and then decide what those restrictions are. Why would they split that decision making process up over a few days. Makes no sense.


  • #9398
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    If I was in Professor Nolans shoes i'd be starting the graphs back in November with huge community transmission to explain the instant sharp death rate in March.
    Instead the charts were presented with show it killed immediately once it arrived, that didn't happen, it's one of the biggest lies out there.

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • #9399
    Hooked
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Should have used all the returning health staff and built a dedicated ICU hospital for covid patients.

    That's what all this lockdown is about.

    Instead they only hired 80 returning professionals after issuing a plea to all come home.

    Yeah it woukd have probably cost a few billion but we already are 30 billion worst off and God knows how much more.

    Useless dimwits the lot of them.


    I quoted this so I could thank it TWICE!!!


  • #9400
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1313121126994898946?s=20

    All finished between the party leaders


  • #9401
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    North Korea minus the sanctions then? Where nothing and no-one at all gets in and out?

    No reason whatsoever to restrict goods in or out.

    Every reason to stop people coming and going willy nilly.


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  • #9402
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    929 positive swabs over past 48hrs

    Presume error on tests, unless 1 completed is correct. 92,900% positivity rate

    EDIT: 23,462 tests completed for a +ve rate of 3.95%

    If anyone is interested in the breakdown:
    Saturday: 425 positive swabs, 11295 tests. + Rate = 3.76%
    Sunday: 503 positive swabs, 12166 tests. + Rate = 4.13%

    Interested to see what Dublin's numbers are today. Only 100 positive cases in Dublin in yesterday's report.


  • #9403
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1313121126994898946?s=20

    All finished between the party leaders

    Any leaks about what. was discussed?


  • #9404
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    quokula wrote: »
    I really don't see how staying close to home for a few weeks is such a hardship compared to the alternative. We did it once and the economic impact proved to be lower than expected.
    Because it was a one-off. Or at least that was the expectation.

    Rolling lockdowns...might work if you schedule them. If people know that for the months of October, February & June you will be on lockdown.

    Recommendations made out of the blue on a random Sunday night...won't work. Socially, economically, politically, healthwise, will be a disaster.


  • #9405
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,715 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    seamus wrote: »
    Because it was a one-off. Or at least that was the expectation.

    Rolling lockdowns...might work if you schedule them.

    Recommendations made out of the blue on a random Sunday night...won't work. Socially, economically, politically, healthwise, will be a disaster.

    You can't really schedule them if they're a reaction to live and evolving numbers.

    And it wasn't a recommendation out of the blue, it was after a meeting of NEPHET flagged well in advance.


  • #9406
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hurrache wrote: »
    You can't really schedule them if they're a reaction to live and evolving numbers.
    Of course you can't. Which is why a different sustainable approach is required.
    And it wasn't a recommendation out of the blue, it was after a meeting of NEPHET flagged well in advance.
    There was no indication on Thursday that such a drastic escalation was even likely, never mind imminent. That's what makes it out of the blue.


  • #9407
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Hooked wrote: »
    I quoted this so I could thank it TWICE!!!

    Agreed. Its a good post. There should be a dedicated ICU hospital just for covid.

    We currently appear to have about 50 beds for covid ICU patients with 20 already filled and no possibility it seems for more. I was reading that the surge ICU beds back in April were in operating theatres and these have been restored to normal service.

    Rather than HSE/NPHET/government putting a plan in place if there was a repeat, they decided to gamble it wouldn't happen again and now have been caught out by a sudden rise in cases. There's minimal ICU headroom so they have to lockdown. And you can be sure NPHET will extend the lockdown in a months time for another month.


  • #9408
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1313125392786612226?s=20


  • #9409
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not surprising https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1313122717022015490?s=19

    Poor Tony is being shy lol


  • #9410
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Hmmm could be over 600 cases again today as only 364 announced yesterday

    Generally the Monday numbers are the lowest of the week as they are from the weekend. Its usually Tuesday that has high numbers as they process a backlog. It could be up on 800 tomorrow.


  • #9411
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Video just released of Tony coming back to work yesterday

    https://twitter.com/_FeachNews/status/1313051793937629186


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  • #9412
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,715 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    seamus wrote: »
    There was no indication on Thursday that such a drastic escalation was even likely, never mind imminent. That's what makes it out of the blue.

    I suppose if you were a pessimistic **** about the whole thing you'd have expected it, demanded it even.


  • #9413
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Hard to read anything into this. https://twitter.com/simoncoveney/status/1313126905713917954?s=19


  • #9414
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    If I was in Professor Nolans shoes i'd be starting the graphs back in November with huge community transmission to explain the instant sharp death rate in March.
    Instead the charts were presented with show it killed immediately once it arrived, that didn't happen, it's one of the biggest lies out there.

    Obviously it was spreading widely in early February maybe even January but seriously doubt it would have had no major impact 5 months after November with absolutely no restrictions


  • #9415
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hard to read anything into this. https://twitter.com/simoncoveney/status/1313126905713917954?s=19
    Minister communicating effectively in an adult manner?


  • #9416
    Roots 2020
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Roots 2020


    I said this in jest early yesterday evening. I actually wasn't too far off the mark with Tony's attitude:D

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114818643&postcount=7244


  • #9417
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Thought Cabinent weren't meeting until later? https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313127740736970753?s=19


  • #9418
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    They'll reject it today but we are heading towards level 5 anyway in the next week or two.


  • #9419
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,646 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hard to read anything into this. https://twitter.com/simoncoveney/status/1313126905713917954?s=19

    Sounds like they're going to cave. Or at they very least move the whole country up a level


  • #9420
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    I didn't go near public transport the last time we were locked down but as someone who doesn't drive at all I'm wondering how strictly was it policed last time? If you have an excuse for them do they probe?. It's just the train I might need to get on occasion and tbh even over the last couple of months it's been about 25% full on my journey.

    Worked throughout the lockdown, travelling in with Dublin bus. No enforcement whatsoever.

    To be fair wasn't necessary when everything was shut as no point in heading to town anyway. As soon as non-essential retail opened buses were full to the allowed 25% capacity. I remember waiting 3 hours after a 12hr shift to get on a bus (there were lots of other essential workers stranded with me, recognised them as travelling throughout the lockdown). I'm guessing that's part of the reason non-essential retail is shut at level 5. Which is a shame. I think strict enforcement on buses is a preferable alternative to shutting shops.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


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  • #9421
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Level 3 it is
    https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313127740736970753?s=19


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