Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

929 positive swabs over past 48hrs

Presume error on tests, unless 1 completed is correct. 92,900% positivity rate

EDIT: 23,462 tests completed for a +ve rate of 3.95%

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The website updated to what they're issuing to houses, something that was put together well before the weekend so not exactly something stemming from last nights recommendations when its in the printed up material being sent around the country. Material that would have been put together over the last week or more

Why is he sharing that so, he's a lad who's fairly on the ball. I can't even find the page that he's on..

Danno wrote: »

Ideal situation to test out the herd immunity theory.

This is probably a better example, from Brazil.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/10/coronavirus-manaus-brazil-city-herd-immunity-covid-19-pandemic/

Gradius wrote: »

Need to isolate the country and attempt to eradicate the disease.

I'd rather live normally in a reduced economy than this downward spiral of insanity of a ruined, disease ridden country.

The appetite for attempting this isn't here yet, but come next year it'll be a different story.

Without a vaccine, you can't eradicate the virus unless everyone else eradicates that too. Look around the world or just look across the water. No one in Europe is getting close to eradicating it. New Zealand, who are better placed to do it, thought they'd eradicated it and it got back in. I'd say "unless you become North Korea, you have to learn to manage it" but even North Korea has had cases.

Locking down is not a viable long term or even medium term solution.

DeanAustin wrote: »

Locking down is not a viable long term or even medium term solution.

And we've already tried the Medium Term approach. No dice!

Nphet?

Inept more like!!!

TexasTornado wrote: »

Christ :eek:

This kind of surmises how not to pay attention to anything you post.

This is 48hrs of swabs not 24hrs and actually to most level headed people monitoring this would be seen as an okay number and not a sign of large surge similar to what is occurring in NI

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I've no doubt it was far worse back in April. Then we likely were missing 9 out of 10 cases and there was thousands infected daily.

Nowadays with asymptomatic cases and testing running at maximum we are still missing cases, perhaps 1 out of 2.

Assuming the real figure is 1000 a day, even if we had an R0 of 0.5 (unlikely with schools, creches and colleges open), it would take about a month to get us to about 100 a day, which would be early November.

But what good is 100 a day? Once restrictions are eased we will be back at 500 a day in no time, probably early December. Do we lock down again? Or more likely will the CMO say in early November that cases are not low enough.

Which is why lockdowns are not sustainable. By 1st January thousands more businesses will be destroyed.

The HSE had 6 months to boost ICU and hospital beds. They did nothing.

Sad thing is there isn't one person in cabinet with the balls or brains to question NPHET or HSE. They are all sheep.

There's plenty of brains in cabinet, let's not assume we're more intelligent than our government and the numerous advisors they have at their disposal.

You make a good point though and it may just be another pause on the inevitable. If the pause button isn't pressed, people who are anti-lockdown better be pro-health service breakdown so because that's how it's going to go without intervention.

Hooked wrote: »

The bit in bold is my main gripe. They asked so much of us - and did sweet fook all themselves...

Should have used all the returning health staff and built a dedicated ICU hospital for covid patients.

That's what all this lockdown is about.

Instead they only hired 80 returning professionals after issuing a plea to all come home.

Yeah it would have probably cost a few billion but we already are 30 billion worst off and God knows how much more.

Useless dimwits the lot of them.

DeanAustin wrote: »

Without a vaccine, you can't eradicate the virus unless everyone else eradicates that too. Look around the world or just look across the water. No one in Europe is getting close to eradicating it. New Zealand, who are better placed to do it, thought they'd eradicated it and it got back in. I'd say "unless you become North Korea, you have to learn to manage it" but even North Korea has had cases.

Locking down is not a viable long term or even medium term solution.

Listen, the likes of India are never getting rid of this. There is no living with this, evidenced by the shoite show to date.

We need to isolate our country.

Again, a reduced economy where life is normal is infinitely preferable to this craziness that's dragging us nowhere but down.

The luxury of avoiding the inevitable is time based, and that time is running out while people shout at the clouds about the inconvenience of it all.

Sawduck wrote: »

Anyone know when we might find out if we are going back into lockdown, is there a press conference or something

DoH one is tonight. I imagine they'll review the CMO meeting first. There is a Cabinet meeting tomorrow so that's a more likely place to reach a decision and they'll be in no rush to announce a Level 5 if that's the call.

bennyl10 wrote: »

The important part is that the website is now showing level 5 restrictions for schools as current plan


Which it wasn’t before mid morning today, so they are clearly editing to bring in line with material

And it’s a bit coincidental it’s being done today no?

The website was NOT updated, that was what they listed under level 5 weeks ago... I read it a day or two after they launched the 5 level plan.

This is not the first deadly viral pandemic and it will not be the last... Pandemics are a force of nature.

Ranting and raving against the virus, and the FEW ways we have to contain it at present, are the equivalent of getting upset about the weather or the tide coming in.

The problem the political right wing has is that it has been taken over by bonehead populists, who view government as at best problematic and at worst part of the problem.

When humankind is confronted by a pandemic that requires concerted and effective collective action to be dealt with... the only organizations that can do this are strong governments led by science.

They are faced then with a quandary. Their way out of it is to just deny the virus. It is all a hoax. it is just a flu. It will just vanish. Masks are not needed. It's not as bad as the science or statistics say. The lockdowns are not necessary. Herd immunity by letting it run rife. etc. etc.

They need to be slapped out of their alternative reality stat.

Not surprising https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1313122717022015490?s=19