Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 02:18PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1313105510044966912?s=19

Sierra Oscar · 05-10-2020 02:18PM

Major Covid-19 outbreak at Portlaoise nursing home

Worrying news considering this comes despite all the restrictions already in place.

A NURSING home in Portlaoise is dealing with a sudden outbreak of Covid-19, after 18 people tested positive for the virus.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 02:18PM

Benimar wrote: »

I'm thinking Level 3+ (a la Dublin) and a clear ultimatum that if numbers don't come down in 2 weeks, we will be going to Level 5.

Pure guesswork of course.

It's a better plan than NPHET's not Level 3 on Thursday to Level 5 on Sunday!

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 02:18PM

rob316 wrote: »

So you go from level 2 to level 3 not straight to 5 and create mass panic.

Only idiots panic.

Boggles · 05-10-2020 02:18PM

Let it rip.

Protect the vulnerable.

MrMusician18 · 05-10-2020 02:19PM

Roger the cabin boy wrote: »

This government is so weak,

Put it to the people and have a referendum ffs.

A) hibernate and wait for a miracle
Mitigate and get on with it.

Of course, option B is the only option because as someone else here said, Zero-covid is not possible.

All this government/NPhet noise is just kite flying to get the people to make the calls. Pathetic.

They are trying to mitigate, but when you have hundreds of thousands of not millions of people doing whatever the **** they want, they are left with no choice.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 02:19PM

Roger the cabin boy wrote: »

This government is so weak,

Put it to the people and have a referendum ffs.

A) hibernate and wait for a miracle
Mitigate and get on with it.

Of course, option B is the only option because as someone else here said, Zero-covid is not possible.

All this government/NPhet noise is just kite flying to get the people to make the calls. Pathetic.

Yeah a referendum, in the middle of a pandemic.

Genius.

GooglePlus · 05-10-2020 02:20PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1313105510044966912?s=19

That's the last thing you want to see. I'd much rather see college and school outbreaks but this is a natural progression. Poor ****ers stuck in there.

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 02:20PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

It's the start of October for goodness sake, not December.

People are insanely stupid.

And they want restrictions for 4 weeks bringing to the start of November. Anyone believe it'll just be 4 weeks ?,

People are sceptical for a reason having been told before 2 or 3 weeks and having that constantly extended

eagle eye · 05-10-2020 02:20PM

Sierra Oscar wrote:

Worrying news considering this comes despite all the restrictions already in place.

Hopefully this is an.isolated incident and we don't see this happening in more nursing homes.

Gradius · 05-10-2020 02:21PM

Roger the cabin boy wrote: »

Short term, yes.

But life is a long term ideal.

And that's why a proactive plan is desperately needed.

The longer inaction continues, the less willing people are to obey go-nowhere plans and the worse the situation becomes.

Around and around, getting worse with each cycle.

You need buy-in from people if you want them to stick to a plan, and if a plan has no end point or exit or hope, people aren't going to follow it.

It doesn't get any easier to understand why massive failure is on the cards.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 02:21PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

And they want restrictions for 4 weeks bringing to the start of November. Anyone believe it'll just be 4 weeks ?,

People are sceptical for a reason having been told before 2 or 3 weeks and having that constantly extended

You've heard of online shopping right?

Thomas.. · 05-10-2020 02:22PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Hopefully this is an.isolated incident and we don't see this happening in more nursing homes.

Restrictions in nursing homes are mostly window dressing

Very little can be done to stop spread

Eod100 · 05-10-2020 02:22PM

Boggles wrote: »

Let it rip.

Protect the vulnerable.

They're not consistent. ''Letting it rip''means community transmission is high meaning healthcare workers, nursing home staff, home help etc could easily bring it to vulnerable groups. The idea you can control a highly infectious disease is at best illogical and at worst completely reckless.

billybonkers · 05-10-2020 02:22PM

Hearing another concern raised but may not be made public is the cases in NI and cross border transmission. Consultation between NI and ROI ongoing

Lvl 5 suggested to dissuade travel between NI and ROI

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 02:22PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

It's the start of October for goodness sake, not December.

People are insanely stupid.

That's never been an intelligent argument, just a reflection on the speaker!

Stheno · 05-10-2020 02:22PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

And they want restrictions for 4 weeks bringing to the start of November. Anyone believe it'll just be 4 weeks ?,

People are sceptical for a reason having been told before 2 or 3 weeks and having that constantly extended

I think this is a real issue. Very few people will believe that it will be no more than four weeks

froog · 05-10-2020 02:22PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Major Covid-19 outbreak at Portlaoise nursing home

Worrying news considering this comes despite all the restrictions already in place.

christ this really is march all over again.

Russman · 05-10-2020 02:23PM

Hard to believe that with half the developed world bringing back restrictions due to the summer/autumn surge, we have people claiming that little ol’ Ireland, with a chronically mismanaged health service and one of the lowest ICU bed capacities, can go against the tide and all will be well. What’s f-€king wrong with people ?

In fairness the govt are in an completely unenviable position now. Go against health advice and reap the whirlwind later when/if ICUs are overrun or accept the advice and see the economic devastation that ensues. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

I dunno, I guess it comes down to what people are prepared to accept for their fellow citizens. Is joe prepared to miss 3 mortgage payments so someone who needs an icu bed can get it ? What’s the magic number, and what if the person needing that bed is himself ?

Mad times, Ted.

Roger the cabin boy · 05-10-2020 02:23PM

Boggles wrote: »

Let it rip.

Protect the vulnerable.

What else is there to do?

Like, WTF is the exit plan here?
Carry on ad-infinitum until.....um....

Thats going to work well huh.

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 02:23PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

You've heard of online shopping right?

Give it a rest will you.

Your openly begrudging people spending money in retail settings that could be closed after tonight for an indefinite period. Would rather spend money in an actual shop than give it to the likes of amazon.

If people want to go out and shop it makes no difference to you or I.

People have always done Christmas shopping early covid or no covid

froog · 05-10-2020 02:24PM

Boggles wrote: »

Let it rip.

Protect the vulnerable.

how many vulnerable do you think are in the country?

seamus · 05-10-2020 02:24PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Cold hard fact is the government don’t have the funds to implement level 5

The money will come from somewhere. It's not all that big a deal.

The main issue with level 5 is the things that money won't fix. For some businesses, another closure will finish them off, unless the state is willing to 100% fund them for the duration of level 5. Which they won't.
Many, many outpatient clinics will get cancelled. Essential clinics.
Vital social activites curtailed; even basic ones like meeting in the park.

We all pulled together and did this in March; hoping it was a one-off.

Now there's talk of being asked to do it again for 4 weeks. Maybe 6 or even 8. And then doing it next February. And then perhaps June/July 2021?

If things were bad, you might get some buy in. But they're not. The data is all out there. And unless someone can come up with some really rock-solid projections and discussion to show why a full lockdown is absolutely necessary, then it just won't fly.

What changed between Thursday and Sunday to utterly render all of the original projections and data completely useless?

Hurrache · 05-10-2020 02:25PM

titan18 wrote: »

NIs sudden huge growth in case numbers might have scared NPHET too. They ballooned out of nowhere this weekend like.

Huge jump in a month
https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1313107396953280512

Gradius · 05-10-2020 02:25PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think this is a real issue. Very few people will believe that it will be no more than four weeks

Where has all the pain and effort of 7 months gotten us?

Back to square one, that's where. A complete waste.

And what's the new plan?? Same as before.

Insanity.

Eod100 · 05-10-2020 02:25PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Hopefully this is an.isolated incident and we don't see this happening in more nursing homes.

It's not unfortunately. In NPHET's letter is said there is 31 open outbreaks in nursing homes currently. Guess this is likely included as results were back Friday.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 02:26PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Give it a rest will you.

Your openly begrudging people spending money in retail settings that could be closed after tonight for an indefinite period. Would rather spend money in an actual shop than give it to the likes of amazon.

If people want to go out and shop it makes no difference to you or I.

No im laughing at people like you defending people queuing up on the 5th of OCTOBER to do xmas shopping in a mad panic. Smyths have online shopping who said anything about Amazon.

Tzardine · 05-10-2020 02:26PM

Roger the cabin boy wrote: »

Nope.

WFH is not going away. You need to adapt to it or it will leave you behind.

You are the 1st person i have heard who says they miss the commute.
This tells me you are slow to change, rather than making the most of the time gained by not commuting, you are what? staying in bed?

As far i can see, its about a 15/85% split with my colleagues as to WFH being a good thing or not. Most of the 15% who don't like it are because they have not adapted to it, have problems at home, or don't like change.

Humans are creatures of habit after all.

Quite the leap you made there.

I have adapted fine to it. Have been doing it since March as I said. I am young and motivated, and not a checked out civil servant. Working at home is fine for a while, but it is not as productive as being in the office (in my role at least). I can only do so much of my work from home, and I am now bored. There is little room for initiative regretfully.

I, like most people miss the old normal. The routine. The commute was part of this.

Russman · 05-10-2020 02:26PM

Roger the cabin boy wrote: »

What else is there to do?

Like, WTF is the exit plan here?
Carry on ad-infinitum until.....um....

Thats going to work well huh.

There is no exit plan, there never has been. WHO flagged months ago that the way they saw this playing out over months was lockdown, relax, surge, lockdown, relax, surge etc etc until a vaccine was rolled out.

Hurrache · 05-10-2020 02:26PM

Roger the cabin boy wrote: »

This government is so weak,

Put it to the people and have a referendum ffs.

Ha ha ha, [deep breath] ha ha ha.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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