Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 01:54PM

NPHET are having a laugh

Moving to Level 5 is ‘only’ way to control Covid-19 and keep schools open - NPHET

Letter to Minister for Health says current measures failing to get a handle on disease

"It says NPHET is sensitive to the impact on businesses, individuals and families but that the action is “the only opportunity to get this disease back under control while keeping schools open”.

Ha very sensitive alright. They don't care about the impact on businesses, individuals and families

"It says a graduated approach would ultimately result in Level 5 measures being put in place, whereas an immediate enactment of the harshest measures will prevent deaths, protect vulnerable people and enable schools to remain open."

They must be fortune tellers

Going to level three won't work without trying it
Going to level four won't work without trying it
Nah lets go direct to five

“The proposed measures will only be effective if there is broad societal buy in and adherence over the coming four week period,” it warns.

Ha good luck getting that NPHET

What a bunch of muppets

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/moving-to-level-5-is-only-way-to-control-covid-19-and-keep-schools-open-nphet-1.4372401

B.A._Baracus · 05-10-2020 01:55PM

Blondini wrote: »

Some people really are thick bastardds when it boils down to it.

You have to speak up I am carrying 20 packets of toilet paper right now :pac:

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 01:55PM

madcabbage wrote: »

No some people just need a good kick up the arse. Could be all a wind up to get people to cop on and take it a bit more seriously.

Tony Holohan and NPHET don`t do wind ups.

TonyMaloney · 05-10-2020 01:55PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313097460152139782?s=19

243 out of 281 ICU beds taken

that alone justifies level 5

shocksy · 05-10-2020 01:56PM

alentejo wrote: »

the loss of 40 to 50% of all drinking establishments

Apart from the job losses that would be a good thing for the country.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 01:57PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well if retail closes with no idea when it reopens then they're just doing the Christmas shop to try and have some sort of Christmas. Can't begrudge anyone that.

Different story to the supermarkets that'll be open regardless.

:pac:

Hurrache · 05-10-2020 01:57PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

They must be fortune tellers

Errm, where have you been the last 6 months to think you must be a fortune teller to identify the bleedin obvious to any sensible person?

odyssey06 · 05-10-2020 01:58PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Letter to Minister for Health says current measures failing to get a handle on disease...
"It says a graduated approach would ultimately result in Level 5 measures being put in place, whereas an immediate enactment of the harshest measures will prevent deaths, protect vulnerable people and enable schools to remain open."

I don't know if this means a graduated approach introducing on a measure by measure basis Level 5, or do we go up through the Levels to arrive at Level 5?

rob316 · 05-10-2020 01:58PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313097460152139782?s=19

That all goes back to residential, what is the justification for shutting down our economy again?

Poorside · 05-10-2020 01:58PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

243 out of 281 ICU beds taken

that alone justifies level 5

That's why Tony had hit the nuclear button now rather than waiting a few weeks

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 01:58PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

243 out of 281 ICU beds taken

that alone justifies level 5

Its a damming stat on the HSE to be honest, and government that 281 is the non surge capacity limit

wakka12 · 05-10-2020 01:58PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

243 out of 281 ICU beds taken

that alone justifies level 5

And less than 10% from COVID patients.We were already in a healthcare crisis then, seems any major multi vehicle road traffic accident or a mass shooting would have put our health services over the edge

Eod100 · 05-10-2020 01:59PM

Why are the people who constantly say NPHET recommend, government decide so furious with NPHET? They're doing their job. You can disagree with them but not like government doesn't have an opportunity to decide itself between oversight committee and Cabinet.

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 01:59PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

I don't know if this means a graduated approach introducing on a measure by measure basis Level 5, or do we go up through the Levels to arrive at Level 5?

I'm reading it as going up the levels seeing as they're skipping level 3 and 4 to go straight nuclear at 5

marno21 · 05-10-2020 01:59PM

Let’s call a spade a spade - we are going to have to suspend our lives for 4 weeks because 150 people being in hospital with Covid-19 (not all necessarily sick from it) and 21 in ICU is threatening the stability of our shambolic health system. No surprise to anyone who is aware of how bad it is but it’s absolutely pathetic stuff.

Paris moving into “lockdown” also but they are allowed to keep restaurants open with strict health policies. These are no more than 6 to a table, contact details held for contact tracing and masks on when not eating. Basically what we’ve had from day 1 of them reopening with the exception of masks being more gradually introduced.

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 01:59PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

:pac:

Oh yeah if you've nothing to say come back with a stupid emoji.

Can you not see the logic non essential retail v essential?

Best off getting a few things just incase they don't reopen for a good while. Panic buying in supermarkets pointless as they stay open.

Tzardine · 05-10-2020 01:59PM

I am only back to work today after having to self-isolate for two weeks (close contact). I am a public servant, and I have been working at home a lot since March. The novelty has long worn off. All indications we are getting is to prepare for level 4.

I was so looking forward to getting back to the office today after being couped up for 2 weeks.

Now I am looking at being back home again for another month. As even at level 4 I will be out of the office.

Yes I know I am fortunate that my job is secure, but this working at home stuff is hard on the mental health. Would much rater be doing the commute and coming into work every day ( I would love to have a time machine and go back and show the me from January this post lol)

Stheno · 05-10-2020 02:00PM

rob316 wrote: »

That all goes back to residential, what is the justification for shutting down our economy again?

Their rationale is probably that it's being brought into residential settings from outside?

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 02:00PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

243 out of 281 ICU beds taken

that alone justifies level 5

It's absolutely no wonder they are going to level 5.

Blondini · 05-10-2020 02:01PM

We will end up with a hybrid of levels 3 and 4 I reckon...

rob316 · 05-10-2020 02:01PM

If the whole point is keeping the schools open, its pointless as if we go to level 5 the teachers will refuse to work. The unions will never ever allow it.

Sconsey · 05-10-2020 02:02PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WestAwake/status/1313098582950588422?s=20

Hard not to agree with the 2nd last point about underfunding, decades of lack of investment. The main thing driving level 5 is that our ICUs are nearly full. They are health committee focusing on health. It is up to the Gov to figure out the rest.

I dunno, as discussed above, funding does not seem to be the issue, we spend a lot of government money on healthcare as it is. Countries that spend less than us have much better healthcare systems. I think it is less a money problem and more an organisational issue. If we could wipe the slate clean and create a new service from scratch, leaving all the legacy inefficiencies behind I think our current funding would be fine....not possible to do that I know, but I just don't think funding is the real issue when you look at how much we spend.

Roger the cabin boy · 05-10-2020 02:02PM

Tzardine wrote: »

I am only back to work today after having to self-isolate for two weeks (close contact). I am a public servant, and I have been working at home a lot since March. The novelty has long worn off. All indications we are getting is to prepare for level 4.

I was so looking forward to getting back to the office today after being couped up for 2 weeks.

Now I am looking at being back home again for another month. As even at level 4 I will be out of the office.

Yes I know I am fortunate that my job is secure, but this working at home stuff is hard on the mental health. Would much rater be doing the commute and coming into work every day ( I would love to have a time machine and go back and show the me from January this post lol)

You are a dinosaur and your type will soon become extinct.

You miss the commute?
Get up early and go and sit in your car an for an hour or so before you log on.

Good grief.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 02:02PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Oh yeah if you've nothing to say come back with a stupid emoji.

Can you not see the logic non essential retail v essential?

Best off getting a few things just incase they don't reopen for a good while. Panic buying in supermarkets pointless as they stay open.

It's the start of October for goodness sake, not December.

People are insanely stupid.

Sweet.Science · 05-10-2020 02:03PM

FLATTEN THE CURVE BABY

HOLD FIRM

shocksy · 05-10-2020 02:03PM

Raphael Damaged Timer wrote: »

Apart from the shocking economic devastation it would bring to workers and their families with a ripple effect in many other industries, it would be a good thing for the country :rolleyes:

Yes long term it would. I wouldn't lose any sleep at all.

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 02:03PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

NPHET are having a laugh

Moving to Level 5 is ‘only’ way to control Covid-19 and keep schools open - NPHET

Letter to Minister for Health says current measures failing to get a handle on disease

"It says NPHET is sensitive to the impact on businesses, individuals and families but that the action is “the only opportunity to get this disease back under control while keeping schools open”.

Ha very sensitive alright. They don't care about the impact on businesses, individuals and families

"It says a graduated approach would ultimately result in Level 5 measures being put in place, whereas an immediate enactment of the harshest measures will prevent deaths, protect vulnerable people and enable schools to remain open."

They must be fortune tellers

Going to level three won't work without trying it
Going to level four won't work without trying it
Nah lets go direct to five

“The proposed measures will only be effective if there is broad societal buy in and adherence over the coming four week period,” it warns.

Ha good luck getting that NPHET

What a bunch of muppets

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/moving-to-level-5-is-only-way-to-control-covid-19-and-keep-schools-open-nphet-1.4372401

The bunch of muppets are the gob****e fcukwits who can`t be bothered to follow straightforward public health guidelines and are mainly responsible for what is about to be implemented nationwide.

Blondini · 05-10-2020 02:03PM

There must be a real shocker of case numbers to be announced today.

PMBC · 05-10-2020 02:03PM

Thomas.. wrote: »

Nphet is there to carry the can for decision making on covid

The problem for MM and co if they go against level 5 is that they're now carrying the can and can be blamed for anything that goes wrong henceforth

But there is a committee in place to make recommendations to government - thats where the deflection will take place

Tzardine · 05-10-2020 02:04PM

Roger the cabin boy wrote: »

You are a dinosaur and your type will soon become extinct.

I dont follow this? Was it a joke that went over my head?

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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