Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

TexasTornado wrote: »

Daughter just texted me. She works in the Jervis centre and went for a walk on her lunch break. Massive queue outside the Toy shops there on Jervis street seems to be a bit of a panic they'll be closed for xmas. This is the level of intelligence we are having to deal with now during this pandemic.

Smyths in swords reportedly the same. Bonkers!!

If we do get a level 4 or level 5 lockdown expect all the supermarkets to be packed and out of toilet roll again haha.

stargazer 68 wrote: »

Smyths in swords reportedly the same. Bonkers!!

Waterford one the same

TonyMaloney wrote: »

wtf man, that's my thing

their positivity rate is really out of control now

Soz dude

If there is a second national lockdown, government need to go for a suppressing covid strategy. Need to build up testing capacity and really rout out the virus and hospital beds.

Gael23 wrote: »

Is it a case of Holohan just trying to stump his authority?

No some people just need a good kick up the arse. Could be all a wind up to get people to cop on and take it a bit more seriously.

CalamariFritti wrote: »

People need to stop with this knee jerk nonsense.

This virus isn't spreading because a few people aren't as vigilant as they could be. The virus spreads because people interact. As in work, shop, live.

Having a go at each other for not adhering to restrictions is ridiculous. Its divide and conquer (deflect). People acutally making people responsible for level 5 threat? Thats idiocy. We're looking at level 5 because our health system is a shambles and because our decision makers are pissing their pants and are too afraid to make decisions. Not because 200 students had an outdoor beer or 2 dozen people watched a GAA game.

Stop this nonsense.

This is a huge problem ffs. Its breaking the rules and it's so annoying for the people who follow them and now have to pay for it.

CalamariFritti wrote: »

People need to stop with this knee jerk nonsense.

This virus isn't spreading because a few people aren't as vigilant as they could be. The virus spreads because people interact. As in work, shop, live.

Having a go at each other for not adhering to restrictions is ridiculous. Its divide and conquer (deflect). People acutally making people responsible for level 5 threat? Thats idiocy. We're looking at level 5 because our health system is a shambles and because our decision makers are pissing their pants and are to afraid tom are decisions. Not because 200 students had an outdoor beer or 2 dozen people watched a GAA game.

Stop this nonsense.

So the evidence linking spread to house parties and multiple households interactng is bollix, then?

I think we are at a crossroads relating to both retail and hospitality if we go down the NPHET route to level 5.

First off, NPHET are calling for a 4 week closure. Assuming that its only 4 weeks, this would allow us to revert back to level 4 on the 3rd or 4th of November. NPHET will insist on level 4 restrictions for a minimum of 3 weeks before moving to level 3 so high street shops will most likely be closed for most of November along with bars, cafes and restaurants etc.

So tentatively we could be moving to Level 3 on around the 24th of November so non essential retail could open.
This would give non essential retail aprox 29/30 days trading before xmas. Must consider that retail is and will operate at reduced rates at the busiest time of year.

If you take the hospitality industry, based on a 3 week interval, we could tentatively move to Level 2 restrictions in and around the 14th of December.
At this stage, not many places will bother to open. They may have good trade (all be it at reduced rates) for 2 to 3 weeks until January.
I cant see may bars or restaurants open until at least Easter and will depend very much if the third wave is happing in Spring 2021.

All in all, I think this level 5 is going to be absolutely brutal with mass unemployment and the loss of 40 to 50% of all eating and drinking establishments.

We are not living with this virus. We need a honest debate how this will all pan out.

CalamariFritti wrote: »

People need to stop with this knee jerk nonsense.

This virus isn't spreading because a few people aren't as vigilant as they could be. The virus spreads because people interact. As in work, shop, live.

Having a go at each other for not adhering to restrictions is ridiculous. Its divide and conquer (deflect). People acutally making people responsible for level 5 threat? Thats idiocy. We're looking at level 5 because our health system is a shambles and because our decision makers are pissing their pants and are too afraid to make decisions. Not because 200 students had an outdoor beer or 2 dozen people watched a GAA game.

Stop this nonsense.

Stop deluding yourself. People are entirely responsible for this, the restrictions in place would have been fine if people had simply behaved responsibly, nobody said you cannot live, but do it 2m away from other people.

https://twitter.com/WestAwake/status/1313098582950588422?s=20

Hard not to agree with the 2nd last point about underfunding, decades of lack of investment. The main thing driving level 5 is that our ICUs are nearly full. They are health committee focusing on health. It is up to the Gov to figure out the rest.