Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

iamwhoiam · 05-10-2020 11:11AM

In my opinion the recommendation from NPHET should never have been leaked like that . I have seen so much anxiety now since last night . People upset , angry , weary and very anxious because of the uncertainty and lack of clarity and guidance .

landofthetree · 05-10-2020 11:12AM

The government has no choice. Level 5 it will be.

Can you imagine the opposition and media if they didnt and death levels rose dramatically.

Thomas.. · 05-10-2020 11:12AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

In my opinion the recommendation from NPHET should never have been leaked like that . I have seen so much anxiety now since last night . People upset , angry , weary and very anxious because of the uncertainty and lack of clarity and guidance .

It should be going to government shouldn't it?and not the public

Funsterdelux · 05-10-2020 11:12AM

rob316 wrote: »

They sat home for six months and were the first sector to close. They've done fine. Nurses worked throughout, retail workers had a huge work load.

Oh so it must of been fairies or elves correcting and preparing work for our kids during March - June!

Keyzer · 05-10-2020 11:13AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

McConkeys opinion about going to level 5 is the headline news on RTE

McConkey was on Pat Kenny earlier this morning spouting, what can only be described as, utter horsesh!t.

He said we need to implement a program where school kids can trade in their phones to get better phones which will run the HSE app. Even though the age limit for the app is 16 years.

1. How in the name of jaysis could we fund such a program and...

2. Why would we do this? We don't need to - every kid I know over the age of 10 (and younger in some cases) have a mobile phone that can run the app. Even a bog standard cheap smartphone has bluetooth.

Utter nonsense...

This guy is clearly not living in the real world.

Level 5 restrictions are going to further decimate the country and cause public uproar, possibly unrest.

Why can't they target problem areas (e.g. shut universities, everything online) and introduce greater powers for law enforcement to tackle stupid behaviour (e.g. have a house party, fined 5 grand or jail time, go on the lash with a load of people from college, immediate expulsion).

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 11:13AM

rob316 wrote: »

They sat home for six months and were the first sector to close. They've done fine. Nurses worked throughout, retail workers had a huge work load.

So who did the daily online lessons with my daughter every day for months? The school janitor?

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 11:14AM

giveitholly wrote: »

I reckon boards could break again this evening when there is an announcement after the cabinet meeting

Agreed. The restrictions thread in particular is likely to be infested with comments from the permanently fake outraged anti authority rabble rousing brigade right enough.

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 11:14AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

In my opinion the recommendation from NPHET should never have been leaked like that . I have seen so much anxiety now since last night . People upset , angry , weary and very anxious because of the uncertainty and lack of clarity and guidance .

It's a shambles now

My grandmother worrying that she will be left alone due to travel restrictions

That won't happen but its awful worry for a 92 year old

GooglePlus · 05-10-2020 11:14AM

landofthetree wrote: »

The government has no choice. Level 5 it will be.

Can you imagine the opposition and media if they didnt and death levels rose dramatically.

That's the thing, they're between a rock and a hard place.

rob316 · 05-10-2020 11:15AM

Blondini wrote: »

There's already a dedicated teacher bashing thread btw, maybe use that and free up this one for the grownups? Hmmm?

Someone brought up the teachers I'm entitled to answer and give my opinion. I'm not bashing but the teachers are been painted like they are the sacrificial lambs. They were the very first taken out and the last to go back in. They are to provide a public service, like our nurses, police, fire brigade and they have no problem accepting their responsibility.

05-10-2020 11:15AM

AdamD wrote: »

I mean if the government were taken aback and by surprised by this, you can forgive your mates for being surprised too.

I doubt if the government were genuinely taken aback, the writing was on the wall. Politics plays its role.

Sam Russell · 05-10-2020 11:15AM

rob316 wrote: »

How far off are your experts and modelling if on Thursday you recommend no other county needs to go to level 3 but then on Sunday you say "no we need to go to level 5 for 4 weeks countrywide".

Did we just give up on localized lockdowns? When it worked in Kildare, Laois and Offaly. If Dublin or another part of the country is not responding to 3, go to 4. Places with small incidence rates are going to be subjected to the same restrictions as Dublin, makes no sense.

The change between Thursday and Sunday was the change from Acting Chief Medical Officer to Chief Medical Officer.

The number are climbing exponentially and another week and there will be 50% more cases, or leave it till the end of the month, and there will be 250% more. Delay does not change the numbers for the better, only the worse.

The virus is out there, everywhere. If you circulate, you can catch it, so do not circulate. Stay at home. If you have to leave your home, do not go to someone else's home. Only do essential things outside your home, and always wash your hands, wear a mask, and keep your distance - always.

If people will not do as they are asked, then what can anyone do?

titan18 · 05-10-2020 11:15AM

Keyzer wrote: »

Why can't they target problem areas (e.g. shut universities, everything online) and introduce greater powers for law enforcement to tackle stupid behaviour (e.g. have a house party, fined 5 grand or jail time, go on the lash with a load of people from college, immediate expulsion).

The Civil Liberties crowd start screaming blue murder then though. Unconstitutional, can't enter houses, police brutality sh1te gets spouted.

Boggles · 05-10-2020 11:15AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313047846820741120

Fine Gael questioning what has changed since Nphet's recommendations last Thursday and are resistant to level five restrictions.

I'm going to go out and a limb and say the 1000s of reported of infections on the island since then.

Just a hunch.

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 11:16AM

giveitholly wrote: »

I reckon boards could break again this evening when there is an announcement after the cabinet meeting

Agreed. The restrictions thread in particular is likely to be infested with comments from the permanently fake outraged anti authority rabble rousing guttersnipes right enough.

05-10-2020 11:16AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Agreed. The restrictions thread in particular is likely to be infested with comments from the permanently fake outraged anti authority rabble rousing brigade right enough.

You have a very unhealthy obsession with that thread. You constantly mention it.

rob316 · 05-10-2020 11:16AM

TexasTornado wrote: »

So who did the daily online lessons with my daughter every day for months? The school janitor?

They worked from the safety of their home unlike other public services that weren't afforded the same.

Plumbthedepths · 05-10-2020 11:16AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Agreed. The restrictions thread in particular is likely to be infested with comments from the permanently fake outraged anti authority rabble rousing brigade right enough.

How many Brigades is that now? Must be nearly 20 .

sideswipe · 05-10-2020 11:17AM

NPHET's flip flopping and leaking of recommendations as the nation prepares to try to get on with life, keep businesses afloat etc at the start of a new working week is infuriating.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1313048046444347392?s=20

mr_cochise · 05-10-2020 11:17AM

Blondini wrote: »

There's already a dedicated teacher bashing thread btw, maybe use that and free up this one for the grownups? Hmmm?

Do you want to actually counter the points made or continue with the ad hominem remarks?

shocksy · 05-10-2020 11:18AM

rob316 wrote: »

So you need to enforce it, guidelines are **** all use. Public health but also keeping our country open is the priority. I want to see pragmatism from our leaders, the 5 stage plan is useless as its too rigid. If certain areas are a problem go to level 4/5 but pressing the nuclear button for the whole country is senseless.

That's your uninformed unprofessional opionion. Last I checked you're not on the NPHET.

I'll take their advice over yours thanks very much.

Blondini · 05-10-2020 11:19AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313047846820741120

"Unclear if the Green Party has a view"

I'd say Ryan's organic alarm clock hasn't gone off yet and he's slept through it all.

NIMAN · 05-10-2020 11:19AM

rob316 wrote: »

Nurses worked throughout.

I know 2 nurses who worked through the 1st major shutdown and they admitted to me that very often they were sitting around doing nothing for weeks on end.

Many of the hospitals were next to empty.

Remember the emergency field hospitals in the UK that never had a single patient?

But this talk doesn't fit the narrative.

Gael23 · 05-10-2020 11:19AM

Looking like they won’t accept it

Blondini · 05-10-2020 11:19AM

mr_cochise wrote: »

Do you want to actually counter the points made or continue with the ad hominem remarks?

The latter please.... teacher hater.

I jest.

Let's drop it okay?

05-10-2020 11:19AM

Actually, to be more clear, maybe I personally had a little heads-up on the upcoming likelihood of level 5, having lady Monday got an email from somebody whose work brings them in contact with NPHET. Naturally I would not post what was said to me here, but I DO know that the cabinet would have been aware of this likelihood too.

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 11:20AM

Blondini wrote: »

"Unclear if the Green Party has a view"

I'd say Ryan's organic alarm clock hasn't gone off yet and he's slept through it all.

Green party

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313054713529630720?s=19

MerlinSouthDub · 05-10-2020 11:20AM

sideswipe wrote: »

NPHET's flip flopping and leaking of recommendations as the nation prepares to try to get on with life, keep businesses afloat etc at the start of a new working week is infuriating.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1313048046444347392?s=20

This is extraordinary stuff. You have to question the competence of NPHET if their recommendation changes radically based on Friday's and Saturday's data.

rob316 · 05-10-2020 11:21AM

sideswipe wrote: »

NPHET's flip flopping and leaking of recommendations as the nation prepares to try to get on with life, keep businesses afloat etc at the start of a new working week is infuriating.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1313048046444347392?s=20

That's been my point all along since last night, how can you say Thursday it doesn't warrant level 3 but now on Sunday we need to go to Level 5.

Its absolutely farcical.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 11:21AM

Gael23 wrote: »

Looking like they won’t accept it

How you figure?

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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