Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 10:32AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Level 4 won't stop f@ckwits. Only destroys economy. Transmission is in family homes. No level is going to stop that.

And how do you think the virus is transmitted in family homes?. By people out and about in contact with other infected people and not taking basic precautions. The virus doesn`t suddenly materialize out of thin air you know.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 10:34AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dan O Brian on radio 1 saying shutting down the economy again has the country on a trajectory to require another bailout

Doubtful , as the ECB presses are running off free money 24 hours a day and will for some time to come but we could probably write off 2021.

Blondini · 05-10-2020 10:34AM

I Wonder is Mr. Tony reading this thread?

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 10:34AM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Really like him tbh. He's calm and to the point.

He has splinters in his arse from jumping over the fence every single day.

His points change like the weather

prunudo · 05-10-2020 10:35AM

Between the news last night and the change in the weather, it doesn't half bring in an onset of feeling down about everything. Depression is probably too strong a word but Im definitely not in an upbeat mood. Waking up this morning on a dark wet morning wondering whether I'll still be in business by the end of the year let alone this time next year. Even last week waiting on my negative result I didn't feel this bad.
These sheilded highly paid and unelected civil servants have no idea what is happening up and down the rest of the country. Oblivious to what a simple 'leak' does to normal people trying to get by day to day.

GooglePlus · 05-10-2020 10:36AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dan O Brian on radio 1 saying shutting down the economy again has the country on a trajectory to require another bailout

We needed a bail out for our banks, this is a different situation altogether.

I can't see a scenario where we require a bailout because there's nothing to bail out as such.

Non solum non ambulabit · 05-10-2020 10:36AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

So you don't think keeping people at home and stopping visits between homes will stop transmission in homes? Okay....

You completely ignored my point. On purpose i contend.

I'm saying fcukwits won't listen. Are you telling me the antimask protestors on Grafton st yesterday are now going to follow the rules? Or will they continue to not follow the rules?

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 10:36AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Clearly then you never listened to him so.

Iv'e actually listened to him a fair bit tbh. He clearly knows what he is talking about unlike many of the "experts" on here.

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 10:37AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dan O Brian on radio 1 saying shutting down the economy again has the country on a trajectory to require another bailout

Not shutting it down for a relatively short period now will eventually lead to that happening anyway.

caveat emptor · 05-10-2020 10:37AM

Fvcking Phil. (joke)

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1313010668048732160?s=20

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 10:37AM

GooglePlus wrote: »

We needed a bail out for our banks, this is a different situation altogether.

I can't see a scenario where we require a bailout because there's nothing to bail out as such.

In his view the country itself could be bankrupt in 2021.

Now some of his views i don't agree with but he's of the opinion that the ECB won't be throwing money at us because we're the only country looking at a full shutdown.

Like I say some of the things he says i agree with others I don't

Jackman25 · 05-10-2020 10:38AM

Boggles wrote: »

Yes, exactly what we need right now, that absolute bollíx ranting and raving to rile up his twitter followers.

Give it a rest. He was elected, he is entitled to give his point of view over the public airwaves and I reckon he will have a good few more followers today.

He is not some blowhard on an Internet forum that spends the day pouring scorn on everything and anything and reacts like a startled hippo when someone challenges them.

Non solum non ambulabit · 05-10-2020 10:38AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

And how do you think the virus is transmitted in family homes?. By people out and about in contact with other infected people and not taking basic precautions. The virus doesn`t suddenly materialize out of thin air you know.

Don't twist what i said. Read the context.

People today are flaunting the rules. These people will continue to flaunt the rules. You actually think that the people meeting up in family homes against the rules today will stop. They won't they will continue to ignore the rules.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 10:38AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Not shutting it down for a relatively short period now will eventually lead to that happening anyway.

That's not a 1+1 answer it's x="?"!

Stan27 · 05-10-2020 10:38AM

Are orthopedic operations allowed in level 5?
I've an ankle operation next week and getting nervous.

evil_seed · 05-10-2020 10:39AM

If we do go to level 5, and the creches are to remain open, but we are restricted to 5km of travel, what do you do if your creche is over 5km away? The panic is unacceptable. What was the point of the levels if we are not going to logically go through them?

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 10:39AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Not shutting it down for a relatively short period now will eventually lead to that happening anyway.

Thats your opinion but not a forgone conclusion as another poster said its not 1+1

caveat emptor · 05-10-2020 10:39AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

In his view the country itself could be bankrupt in 2021.

Now some of his views i don't agree with but he's of the opinion that the ECB won't be throwing money at us because we're the only country looking at a full shutdown.

Like I say some of the things he says i agree with others I don't

Southern Europe is already bankrupt. Carry on regardless.

https://twitter.com/business/status/1018816003244019712?s=20

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 10:40AM

evil_seed wrote: »

If we do go to level 5, and the creches are to remain open, but we are restricted to 5km of travel, what do you do if your creche is over 5km away? The panic is unacceptable. What was the point of the levels if we are not going to logically go through them?

That's essential travel.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 10:40AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dan O Brian on radio 1 saying shutting down the economy again has the country on a trajectory to require another bailout

Not going to happen. He has his own agendas anyway tbh. I'll go with what the health professionals say instead of some random economist

GooglePlus · 05-10-2020 10:40AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

In his view the country itself could be bankrupt in 2021.

Now some of his views i don't agree with but he's of the opinion that the ECB won't be throwing money at us because we're the only country looking at a full shutdown.

Like I say some of the things he says i agree with others I don't

Hopefully that doesn't happen. I would have thought that Ireland has decent economic clout in the eyes of the ECB and others. We're a different player now compared to 2008.

shocksy · 05-10-2020 10:41AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dan O Brian on radio 1 saying shutting down the economy again has the country on a trajectory to require another bailout

Absolute nonsense from him as always. :rolleyes:

The ECB are practically printing off free money and will continue to do so for the forseeable future. No bailout will be required.

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 10:41AM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Not going to happen. He has his own agendas anyway tbh. I'll go with what the health professionals say instead of some random economist

Well no economy is no health service, whatever way you look at it they aren't mutually exclusive so yes there are economics to take into account weather you like it or not.

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 10:41AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

You completely ignored my point. On purpose i contend.

I'm saying fcukwits won't listen. Are you telling me the antimask protestors on Grafton st yesterday are now going to follow the rules? Or will they continue to not follow the rules?

Well if they don`t then strict measures need to be taken to enforce compliance. The kid gloves approach has been tried with the fcukwits and now the gloves need to come off. A zero tolerance policy is now clearly required.

odyssey06 · 05-10-2020 10:42AM

JDD wrote: »

Also, does anyone know whether we still have an additional surge capacity in ICU/hospital beds or is that only available if we shut down the remainder of the health system like we did in March?

The latter I think.

Pre-Covid capacity: 225
Temporary surge capacity: 354
Current permanent capacity: 280
Capacity after Winter Plan funding: 297

https://www.thejournal.ie/icu-bed-nu...17685-Sep2020/

Non solum non ambulabit · 05-10-2020 10:42AM

evil_seed wrote: »

If we do go to level 5, and the creches are to remain open, but we are restricted to 5km of travel, what do you do if your creche is over 5km away? The panic is unacceptable. What was the point of the levels if we are not going to logically go through them?

The 5Km rule only applies to exercise. You are to stay at home unless essential. Creche would be essential.

Blondini · 05-10-2020 10:42AM

evil_seed wrote: »

If we do go to level 5, and the creches are to remain open, but we are restricted to 5km of travel, what do you do if your creche is over 5km away? The panic is unacceptable. What was the point of the levels if we are not going to logically go through them?

No worries, the clever virus knows where you're going and decides not to spread there, i.e creches and schools.

SeaBreezes · 05-10-2020 10:44AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

You do post some nonsense.

Sweden is twice our population.
Another 6000 deaths? We've had 1800 so far. Sweden despite remaining open are on track to have no more than 500 new deaths by Christmas.

4000 assisted deaths? At least you accept Ireland also has assisted deaths.

Sweden always had isolation for the elderly and occasionally nursing homes.

It is all, unfortunately, true.

Non solum non ambulabit · 05-10-2020 10:45AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Well if they don`t then strict measures need to be taken to enforce compliance. The kid gloves approach has been tried with the fcukwits and now the gloves need to come off. A zero tolerance policy is now clearly required.

Thank you. You actually decided to read what i wrote. The govt has lost a huge portion of the people and they aren't coming back.

Funsterdelux · 05-10-2020 10:45AM

The chicken and egg conundrum rears its ugly head again.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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