Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Diarmuid · 05-10-2020 09:03AM

Granadino wrote: »

Spain should be going into a full lockdown, but probably won't.

NPHET are not running the rest of Europe you know?

gifted · 05-10-2020 09:05AM

I get the impression that the government were not taking full notice of Ronan glynn and Tony Holohan knew this.
Holohan putting it up to the government now with this...he won't be pushed around by mickie Martin.

Pinch Flat · 05-10-2020 09:06AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

WTF are people doing?
Great that you won a match but you are harming everyone.
It's your town's businesses that will suffer.
Will we ever cop on.

Stupidity pandemic in full swing unfortunately.

Gael23 · 05-10-2020 09:06AM

walshb wrote: »

Infection numbers now are similar to what they were during our strict lockdown in April...

The numbers in hospital are not though

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 09:07AM

gifted wrote: »

I get the impression that the government were not taking full notice of Ronan glynn and Tony Holohan knew this.
Holohan putting it up to the government now with this...he won't be pushed around by mickie Martin.

It will be more interesting to see if mickie Martin won't be pushed around by Tony

gifted · 05-10-2020 09:08AM

Gael23 wrote: »

The numbers in hospital are not though

Not yet....nphet must know a lot more than any of us

mirrorwall14 · 05-10-2020 09:08AM

What time do we get the morning beds update?

Swabs come in late afternoon right?

And up to Saturday (no swabs yesterday) do we know if/what kind of backlog of swabs we were carrying?

gifted · 05-10-2020 09:09AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It will be more interesting to see if mickie Martin won't be pushed around by Tony

Tony has knocked the ball back into his side of the court now....mickie Martin has got everything wrong so far so chances are he'll get this wrong as well

Pinch Flat · 05-10-2020 09:10AM

Gael23 wrote: »

The numbers in hospital are not though

For a system that runs at 100% plus capacity in a normal winter with hundreds of people on trolleys all over the hospitals, it won't take much to overwhelm what is the weakest health system in Europe.

Longing · 05-10-2020 09:11AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

WTF are people doing?
Great that you won a match but you are harming everyone.
It's your town's businesses that will suffer.
Will we ever cop on.

https://twitter.com/GaryAHurley/status/1312860541405327361?s=20

People don't want to adopt that's the biggest problem. Its not NPHET who's the problem they are trying to save lives has much as possible. People are naive and selfish.

GooglePlus · 05-10-2020 09:13AM

Gael23 wrote: »

The numbers in hospital are not though

Our cases figures now aren't really a true reflection of how things were back in April. We're capturing way more now with increased testing so when we were getting 600-800 in April, it was more than likely much more than that.

Due to this, you can't compare the current hospital numbers alongside case figures then. The virus hasn't changed, so expect hospitalisations to continue to climb with current measures.

Icantthinkof1 · 05-10-2020 09:17AM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Our cases figures now aren't really a true reflection of how things were back in April. We're capturing way more now with increased testing so when we were getting 600-800 in April, it was more than likely much more than that.

Due to this, you can't compare the current hospital numbers alongside case figures then. The virus hasn't changed, so expect hospitalisations to continue to climb with current measures.

This 100%.
In April we probably had at least double these figures; they just went undetected as so many weren’t tested which is also why our hospital and ICU numbers are lower now than the peak. We are nowhere near our last peak& hopefully won’t ever get back to there again

weldoninhio · 05-10-2020 09:22AM

Gradius wrote: »

Do you want to wear masks the rest of your life in a ruined economy and fear every winter of dying?

Or rather, at least, be able to live normally in one country with a reduced economy?

That's the choice on the horizon.

Why would someone under 70 with zero chronic illness's fear dying every winter?? The stats on who Covid kills are readily available.

Hamsterchops · 05-10-2020 09:23AM

...level 3 today, level 5 tomorrow, back to level 2 before Christmas then back up to level 4 in the spring, with the threat of level 5 again next summer....

Businesses and livelihoods ruined, people's well-being destroyed by a virus that may, or (may not) hurt you.

When and how will it ever end?

Rx713B · 05-10-2020 09:24AM

Stick us into level 5 for 4 weeks - get compliance up, have this flattened a bit before crimbo.

Oranage2 · 05-10-2020 09:24AM

gifted wrote: »

Tony has knocked the ball back into his side of the court now....mickie Martin has got everything wrong so far so chances are he'll get this wrong as well

We might be surprised, MM could be working on his on plan, he could surprise us all by rolling out digital healthcodes, temperature screenings in public places, converting some of the nama properties into temporary covid medical facilities, and opening the country and businesses up with a stimulation package and attracting more multi-national companies. Just wait and see.

Rx713B · 05-10-2020 09:24AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

WTF are people doing?
Great that you won a match but you are harming everyone.
It's your town's businesses that will suffer.
Will we ever cop on.

https://twitter.com/GaryAHurley/status/1312860541405327361?s=20

Muppets

weldoninhio · 05-10-2020 09:25AM

Gradius wrote: »

Tell me how to build a rocket. Then if you can't give me PRECISE instruction, it's obvious that rockets can't be built.

https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/children/2017/craft-a-diy-rocket-from-see-you-in-the-cosmos.html

There you go buddy. Now, any chance of answering his question?

Boggles · 05-10-2020 09:26AM

Tony is disappointed in ye all and I have to say I can't blame him.

Jimmy Garlic · 05-10-2020 09:28AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

...level 3 today, level 5 tomorrow, back to level 2 before Christmas then back up to level 4 in the spring, with the threat of level 5 again next summer....

Businesses and livelihoods ruined, people's well-being destroyed by a virus that may, or (may not) hurt you.

When and how will it ever end?

It ends when people say no. They are going to throw this country back into poverty we haven’t seen since the 1950s at the rate they are systematically destroying the economy.

weldoninhio · 05-10-2020 09:29AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

That virtue signalling is just a camouflage to mask that it is they who are scared to death from this. You know it sounds better to say we do this to protect old and vulnerable as opposed to say we should do this because I am afraid to catch it.
Old and vulnerable - most of them already know what to do to be as safe as possible from this virus or any ther threats. Being one of them I am in awe how many people wants to save me by introducing ridiculous and plain crazy solutions.

Legend!! Great to hear someone who is actually affected by Covid speak out about this nonsense

Funsterdelux · 05-10-2020 09:29AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

This way. We don't get to choose what emergencies we have to deal with. If we did it would be kinda easy.

Dont forget to gleam the cube!

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 09:29AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

...level 3 today, level 5 tomorrow, back to level 2 before Christmas then back up to level 4 in the spring, with the threat of level 5 again next summer....

Businesses and livelihoods ruined, people's well-being destroyed by a virus that may, or (may not) hurt you.

When and how will it ever end?

Until such time as an effectivevaccine is developed and distributed throughout the population. Until this happens (if it does at all) and you have moronic fcukwits continuing to ignore the measures then what you have described in the 1st paragraph above will be the new normal. Accept it.

NIMAN · 05-10-2020 09:30AM

Answer me this one.

If we have a month of level 5 and we get down to the numbers we had during the summer, then open up again surely the same cycle will repeat and come Xmas time we will be in full panic mode again.

Atlantic Dawn · 05-10-2020 09:32AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Answer me this one.

If we have a month of level 5 and we get down to the numbers we had during the summer, then open up again surely the same cycle will repeat and come Xmas time we will be in full panic mode again.

Best plan is control the spread in nursing homes and hospitals, outside of that it should only be the wreckless who get it or spread it to their family so no lockdown required for the rest of us.

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 09:32AM

Here's a reminder of what Level 5 would entail:

• Stay at home. Exercise only within 5km of your home.
• Schools, creches and higher education remain open.
• No social or family gatherings.
• Up to 6 guests can attend a wedding.
• No organised indoor gatherings to take place.
• No organised outdoor gatherings should take place.
• No Exercise or Dance Classes. Gyms, Leisure Centres and Swimming Pools closed.
• Religious services online only. Places of worship remain open for private prayer.
• Up to 10 mourners can attend a funeral.
• Museums, Galleries and other Cultural Attractions closed.
• Bars, Cafe’s and Restaurants will operate takeaway or delivery service only.
• Pubs serving only alcohol to operate takeaway or delivery only.
• Hotels only open for essential, non social and non tourism purposes.
• Essential retail only. All the retail and personal services closed.
• Work from home unless absolutely necessary.
• Playgrounds, play areas and parks remain open.
• Public Transport restricted to 25% capacity for essential workers only.
• Visiting to residential care facilities suspended.

Icyseanfitz · 05-10-2020 09:32AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Answer me this one.

If we have a month of level 5 and we get down to the numbers we had during the summer, then open up again surely the same cycle will repeat and come Xmas time we will be in full panic mode again.

Hard lock down now for 4-6 weeks, open for Christmas, see how long we can last it, lock down again for 4-6 weeks, repeat until a vaccine is here, use time off to bolster health care

shockframe · 05-10-2020 09:33AM

Another lockdown would be ideal to bring Ireland into the 20s. The 1920s.

Kermit.de.frog · 05-10-2020 09:33AM

Quick and sharp over long and protracted pain.

Most would take the former in my view.

A couple of weeks of tougher measures would halt progression of the virus in it's tracks and provide some hope for Christmas.

Happydays2020 · 05-10-2020 09:34AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Very fair article from Fergal Bowers

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1005/1169405-ireland-faces-decisive-moment-with-covid-19/

Indeed. And many of the members of NPHET could have done with a few weeks in Italy and Greece over the summer.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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