Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Seamai · 05-10-2020 08:29AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Asia, Korea, Taiwan etc, do things we can't do, so comparisons are a bit pointless.

I would imagine there is greater public compliance in those countries well as much better enforcement. Here it's more suggestions and and a reluctance to want to deal with anyone who doesn't go along with them.

Widdensushi · 05-10-2020 08:29AM

Probably 150 to 250 cases not reported yesterday, if they add them on today possible 850,more likely to hold back again today and announce level 4 across the country with 1000 cases tomorrow

Diarmuid · 05-10-2020 08:30AM

wadacrack wrote: »

All of Europe preparing for a 2nd lockdown , while NZ is open. Zero Covid not a pipedream . Most public health experts agree[/url]

All of Europe is NOT preparing for a second lockdown.

Harry Palmr · 05-10-2020 08:30AM

George on rte radio just positing that the conclusion many will draw from this sudden shift is that the government failed to add capacity to ICU in the summer so Nphet are now panicking it'll be overwhelmed quickly.

sydthebeat · 05-10-2020 08:32AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Maybe we should start building the boarder infrastructure that will inevitably eventually be needed.

Perhaps the stupidest post you've ever put in this site, and you've had some doozies.

First off not only is that illegal (against the GFA) and not only would that be incredibly expensive (have you any clue how many crossings there is) you do realise this covid crisis is not going to last forever yes?
We literally have farmers who march their cows through the border to get to different fields.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 08:34AM

Seamai wrote: »

I would imagine there is greater public compliance in those countries well as much better enforcement. Here it's more suggestions and and a reluctance to want to deal with anyone who doesn't go along with them.

Sure, but that's cultural. Some of what individual countries do would be tied up in court here. I'm still of the opinion that most of us are doing our bit. Some people are letting their guard down, not thinking or have gone back to normal in their lives or are not following guidelines.

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 08:39AM

Diarmuid wrote: »

All of Europe is NOT preparing for a second lockdown.

Wait another week or so and see how things are throughout Europe then.

wadacrack · 05-10-2020 08:42AM

Diarmuid wrote: »

All of Europe is NOT preparing for a second lockdown.

Try and look at patterns and how its progressing in all countries. In a few weeks the situation will be far worse. Better to act quickly now. This is what living with Covid is like. Its not going to get any better. Its why I support Zero Covid approach which maybe easier in the nxt few months with rapid testing and maybe a vaccine/treatment that can help somewhat

Granadino · 05-10-2020 08:42AM

Diarmuid wrote: »

All of Europe is NOT preparing for a second lockdown.

Spain should be going into a full lockdown, but probably won't.

Happydays2020 · 05-10-2020 08:42AM

Szero wrote: »

Government minsters saying that clarity needed TODAY. Cabinet meeting accelerated to this evening?

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1313010960844681221

Phase 5 to be announced by MM at 9 PM tonight?

Leaks coming from NPHET. Speculation coming from the whole country.

robbiezero · 05-10-2020 08:43AM

7 months into this and it beggars belief how appalling the communication about the handling of this virus still is.

If the country wasn't driven half mad already, a letter like that out of the blue late on a Sunday evening, I find it hard to believe that the people we entrust to handle this thing, think that is a suitable way to do business.

Mind-boggling idiocy. It really is.

caveat emptor · 05-10-2020 08:43AM

sydthebeat wrote: »

You can't even send a fcuking letter to me Zealand, let alone get in.

We share 300 mile non controlled land border with another juristiction.

How do you propose to square that circle?

This way. We don't get to choose what emergencies we have to deal with. If we did it would be kinda easy.

05-10-2020 08:44AM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Well then they aren't taking public health advice

“Advice” being the operative word. Just one input into the decision making process of the government.

NPHET wasn’t in charge last time I looked

CIARAN_BOYLE · 05-10-2020 08:47AM

I have to wonder if the situation last night was bad enough for level 5 how did Thursdays meeting decide level 2 was sufficient.

Surely the situation didn't worsen that much. They should have been able to put the call for nationwide level 3 and level 4 in the worst areas at least on Thursday.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 08:48AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Leaks coming from NPHET. Speculation coming from the whole country.

A recommendation like that was always going to be leaked.

wirelessdude01 · 05-10-2020 08:49AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I have to wonder if the situation last night was bad enough for level 5 how did Thursdays meeting decide level 2 was sufficient.

Surely the situation didn't worsen that much. They should have been able to put the call for nationwide level 3 and level 4 in the worst areas at least on Thursday.

Difference is the return of Tony.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 08:49AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I have to wonder if the situation last night was bad enough for level 5 how did Thursdays meeting decide level 2 was sufficient.

Surely the situation didn't worsen that much. They should have been able to put the call for nationwide level 3 and level 4 in the worst areas at least on Thursday.

This is the puzzlement about this. It's the real lack of warning about it.

caveat emptor · 05-10-2020 08:50AM

Here's a chart. Not hard to see where the recommendation is coming from.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 08:50AM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Difference is the return of Tony.

Most probably, a bold if very divisive move. Puts an uncomfortable light on NPHET and what they are doing.

robbiezero · 05-10-2020 08:52AM

is_that_so wrote: »

A recommendation like that was always going to be leaked.

Of course it was, so suitable caution should have been taken. Might have been excusable 6 months ago, it really is just incompetence at this stage.

ThunbergsAreGo · 05-10-2020 08:53AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

I doubt it will be phase 5 but phase 4 being announced by the Govenment by tomorrow evening is quite likely.

For counties with less than a case a day....

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-10-2020 08:54AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I have to wonder if the situation last night was bad enough for level 5 how did Thursdays meeting decide level 2 was sufficient.

Surely the situation didn't worsen that much. They should have been able to put the call for nationwide level 3 and level 4 in the worst areas at least on Thursday.

new information coming into them over the weekend

panic

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 08:55AM

robbiezero wrote: »

Of course it was, so suitable caution should have been taken. Might have been excusable 6 months ago, it really is just incompetence at this stage.

I'd agree on that. I'm quite baffled, given how well they managed the early stuff, that something like this emerged in such a sloppy way.

walshb · 05-10-2020 08:56AM

Infection numbers now are similar to what they were during our strict lockdown in April...

CIARAN_BOYLE · 05-10-2020 08:58AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

new information coming into them over the weekend

panic

Yeah the numbers were worse on Friday and Saturday but not enough so. If that was enough to go from 2 to 5 the gaps between levels is too small and they might as well throw out 4 completely as it will never be used.

Funsterdelux · 05-10-2020 09:01AM

wadacrack wrote: »

Asia doing ok too with a higher population than Europe. South America had very lax restrictions along with Iran and India. Both very high death counts and society not functioning . Western society seems to be in the middle ground atm, should probably follow the what they did in Asia to suppress this

Uruguay doing very well(better than us) in SA, even though they have a land border with basket case Brazil.

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 09:01AM

Very fair article from Fergal Bowers

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1005/1169405-ireland-faces-decisive-moment-with-covid-19/

Paddygreen · 05-10-2020 09:02AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Most probably, a bold if very divisive move. Puts an uncomfortable light on NPHET and what they are doing.

The BOSS is back. Get used to it guys. I heard the first thing Dr Tony did when he got back into his trusty old swivel chair was ring the teashock and reduce him to tears. Total ledge btw, he has all these grown men running around him like groupies backstage at a Justin Bieber concert.

caveat emptor · 05-10-2020 09:03AM

WTF are people doing?
Great that you won a match but you are harming everyone.
It's your town's businesses that will suffer.
Will we ever cop on.

https://twitter.com/GaryAHurley/status/1312860541405327361?s=20

KrustyUCC · 05-10-2020 09:03AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Yeah the numbers were worse on Friday and Saturday but not enough so. If that was enough to go from 2 to 5 the gaps between levels is too small and they might as well throw out 4 completely as it will never be used.

It's mad to think that they haven't even tested how level three nationwide would not not to mind level four nationwide before advocating for the nuclear option of level five

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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