Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

440Hertz · 04-10-2020 11:49PM

wingnut32 wrote: »

Will gyms/leisure centres close at level 4? Cant seem to find a definitive answer..

These might be useful - graphical guidelines for each level:

https://assets.gov.ie/87604/405b1065-055a-4ca8-9513-390ce5298b10.pdf

Deshawn · 04-10-2020 11:49PM

Lock it down for 4 weeks. Try and get a handle on the spread coming into winter flu season. We all know the hse struggle with the winter outbreak each year and do not have the facilities to deal with both.

Reinstate the pandemic payment for those 4 weeks and start a media campaign telling people to use a bit of foresight or face a winter of misery like no other.

Blame those who don't stick to the rules. The pandemic is bigger than any individuals personal concerns.
Countries around Europe are releasing record daily new cases. They too will all go into lockdowns similar to march/April.
It's inevitable

04-10-2020 11:50PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

At this point I'd put a red X on every front door where a (anti)social gathering has taken place. Note the address and then read it and the family name out on local radio.

Jesus Christ. Soviet Russia would be impressed with that.

Can see the government going for level 3 or 4 instead. Even level 4 would be extreme, very little difference between 4 and 5 for most people. Though I'd almost rather a proper lockdown if it meant we could go back to the July levels of 'open' for a month or two. Level 3 is just an awful middle ground

c montgomery · 04-10-2020 11:50PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

It would be more accurate to state that a certain cohort of the public are not doing all they can because they can`t be arsed to follow simple measures and have zero concept of personal responsibility.

Maybe their sick to death of hearing about a virus that is not as bad as originally thought

440Hertz · 04-10-2020 11:50PM

This is driven by the R0 level?

Any idea what that is right now?

Strumms · 04-10-2020 11:52PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No matter what we do we are dealing with a tiny minority of people who are quite close to, if not, crazy. They'll follow Gemma O'Doherty and the others no matter what.

It's pointless trying reason with that cohort. Unfortunately they drag down others who are vulnerable to their nonsense and they are the ones on these stupid wreckless marches.

That’s amazingly representative of some truly mind boggling views of covid, here and elsewhere.

wingnut32 · 04-10-2020 11:52PM

440Hertz wrote: »

These might be useful - graphical guidelines for each level:

https://assets.gov.ie/87604/405b1065-055a-4ca8-9513-390ce5298b10.pdf

Thats a shame because for me and many others I know its the only place that is keeping us sane atm

c montgomery · 04-10-2020 11:53PM

440Hertz wrote: »

This is driven by the R0 level?

Any idea what that is right now?

7 billion

niallo27 · 04-10-2020 11:53PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No matter what we do we are dealing with a tiny minority of people who are quite close to, if not, crazy. They'll follow Gemma O'Doherty and the others no matter what.

It's pointless trying reason with that cohort. Unfortunately they drag down others who are vulnerable to their nonsense and they are the ones on these stupid wreckless marches.

By using your titanic analogy you seem to think everyone who gets this virus will die and also life jackets were no good to any of the passengers as they frooze to death in the water.

ixoy · 04-10-2020 11:53PM

I presume NPHET wanted the "circuit breaker" but since the Government's farcical "Living with Covid" plan is the current document, this to them is the "next best thing".

spookwoman · 04-10-2020 11:54PM

440Hertz wrote: »

This is driven by the R0 level?

Any idea what that is right now?

on the 30/9/202 r was between 1.2 and 1.4

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/8ba83-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-wednesday-30-september/

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 11:54PM

c montgomery wrote: »

Maybe their sick to death of hearing about a virus that is not as bad as originally thought

The American public were the same, cases increasing and deaths decreasing (casedemic, better testing, better treatment, asymptomatic cases etc...)
A few months later +82,000 more deaths

Harry Palmr · 04-10-2020 11:54PM

440Hertz wrote: »

This is driven by the R0 level?

Any idea what that is right now?

It was up to 1.7, the last number I heard a couple of days ago was 1.3 or 1.4 but it could be 1.7 again by now.

FintanMcluskey · 04-10-2020 11:54PM

c montgomery wrote: »

Maybe their sick to death of hearing about a virus that is not as bad as originally thought

People bought into restrictions last March on the basis 3 or 4 out of every 100 that caught Covid would die.

People bought into restrictions on the basis of buying the HSE time over the Spring and Summer to get their house in order.

Doctors room ghost · 04-10-2020 11:57PM

The time has come to wheel out Leo and get him to recite a lord of the rings poem or something off the hobbit.
Put the nation at ease.

What a time to be alive

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 11:57PM

wingnut32 wrote: »

Thats a shame because for me and many others I know its the only place that is keeping us sane atm

You're lucky you got a few weeks/months.
I use to go to a medical exercise class twice a week, they weren't allowed reopen back up in stage 3. Large gym hall and only 6 (including an instructor allowed)
What was the term.... uncontrolled environment.
Class was run by doctors and all!

niallo27 · 04-10-2020 11:58PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

The American public were the same, cases increasing and deaths decreasing (casedemic, better testing, better treatment, asymptomatic cases etc...)
A few months later +82,000 more deaths

Well yes, still not as bad as first thought, we were told we would have twice as more deaths than that here despite having 70 times smaller population.

Roots 2020 · 04-10-2020 11:58PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 440Hertz View Post
This is driven by the R0 level?

Any idea what that is right now?

c montgomery wrote: »

7 billion

I don't know how posts like this from c montgomery continue to get thanked. That wasn't funny in February.

Plumbthedepths · 05-10-2020 12:00AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

At this point I'd put a red X on every front door where a (anti)social gathering has taken place. Note the address and then read it and the family name out on local radio.

You ever hear of GDPR?

FintanMcluskey · 05-10-2020 12:00AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No matter what we do we are dealing with a tiny minority of people who are quite close to, if not, crazy. They'll follow Gemma O'Doherty and the others no matter what.

It's pointless trying reason with that cohort. Unfortunately they drag down others who are vulnerable to their nonsense and they are the ones on these stupid wreckless marches.

Crass to suggest a tragedy which claimed many children and young women's lives to can be compared to Covid.

Strumms · 05-10-2020 12:01AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

People bought into restrictions last March on the basis 3 or 4 out of every 100 that caught Covid would die.

People bought into restrictions on the basis of buying the HSE time over the Spring and Summer to get their house in order.

This are not dis-improving because the HSE didn’t get their shît together, but because people can’t or won’t do as they should, didn’t get THEIR shît together. :rolleyes:

Wolf359f · 05-10-2020 12:02AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Well yes, still not as bad as first thought, we were told we would have twice as more deaths than that here despite having 70 times smaller population.

You sound disappointed. Would you feel validated if we had those kind of deaths?
it's a novel virus, nobody could have accurately predicted the death rate etc...
Plan for the worst, hope for the best. Every model prediction worldwide has been way off. It's nothing unique to Ireland.

JJayoo · 05-10-2020 12:02AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Crass to suggest a tragedy which claimed many children and young women's lives to can be compared to Covid.

Too soon is it? You still salty over Leo? God damn it there was room on that door kate you fat bitch

Gradius · 05-10-2020 12:02AM

Put the country into pure isolation, make arrangements for necessary transport of goods, smother the virus out of existence through a protracted period of severe lockdown for a month...

Bingo.

We can play games pretending "we can't do that!" when in fact it means "I don't want to do that", but at the end of the day I would MUCH prefer to be able to live life normally in my own country in exchange for letting every other country die on its arse.

One way or another this choice is coming, so it's a case of

1. Change now while it's easy and voluntary
Or
2. Be forced into changing under much greater difficulty

Christy42 · 05-10-2020 12:04AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Crass to suggest a tragedy which claimed many children and young women's lives to can be compared to Covid.

200,000 didn't die on the titanic.

FintanMcluskey · 05-10-2020 12:04AM

Strumms wrote: »

This are not dis-improving because the HSE didn’t get their shît together, but because people can’t or won’t do as they should, didn’t get THEIR shît together. :rolleyes:

No, people are returning to socialising, thats all they are doing.

An alien concept to a few on here I see.

The HSE got their level of compliance all year, and still have for the most part with the exception of a few youngster's enjoying life after 6 months locked up

ixoy · 05-10-2020 12:04AM

Gradius wrote: »

Put the country into pure isolation, make arrangements for necessary transport of goods, smother the virus out of existence through a protracted period of severe lockdown for a month...

Bingo.

Bingo? How do we manage Northern Ireland?

Wolf359f · 05-10-2020 12:05AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You ever hear of GDPR?

If there's a risk to public health, there is laws in place to protect the public.
The government went with the police by consent option.
People are very quick to point to the government failures, HSE failures, Testing failures (and yes they all failed), but the public also failed.
We all failed.

cnocbui · 05-10-2020 12:05AM

Gradius wrote: »

Put the country into pure isolation, make arrangements for necessary transport of goods, smother the virus out of existence through a protracted period of severe lockdown for a month...

Bingo.

We can play games pretending "we can't do that!" when in fact it means "I don't want to do that", but at the end of the day I would MUCH prefer to be able to live life normally in my own country in exchange for letting every other country die on its arse.

One way or another this choice is coming, so it's a case of

1. Change now while it's easy and voluntary
Or
2. Be forced into changing under much greater difficulty

Pass...

Wolf359f · 05-10-2020 12:05AM

ixoy wrote: »

Bingo? How do we manage Northern Ireland?

Shhhhh, you cant ask them to explain a fairytale!
Like magic, the virus won't cross the border!

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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