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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • #8042
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Numbers going up worldwide, increasing restrictions in place worldwide, and people are still going on as if any changes are some nefarious NPHET plot.

    I'm not happy if we go to level 5 either but come on.

    What country in Europe has had a full country lockdown. Its the bull**** around it too. Wednesday no further counties need to go to level 3, Sunday the whole country needs to go to level 5.


  • #8043
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I'm a university student, not a single person is on site.

    If your going in for two hours a week, people are onsite.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114711211&postcount=710

    https://www.ucc.ie/en/emt/covid19/timetables/

    Friend has an interview for a position in DKIT next week that's currently planned as an onsite interview.


  • #8044
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Hand in Your Pants wrote: »
    Solution to what? It is a contagious virus that is less lethal than the flu. Absolutely the discussion needs to be around protecting older and more vulnerable people and for everyone else to continue life more or less as normal apart from mask wearing and social distancing in certain circumstances. I mean, what is it (apart from actually denying a whole range of seriously ill or special needs people access to treatment and services for another month) that you think another lock down will achieve? The virus is not going away. Probably ever.

    What do you suggest all the vulnerable people do for the rest of their lives then? You know it's not just old people who are vulnerable?


  • #8045
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


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    All going to plan


  • #8046
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,194 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    If they cared about public health they would ban smoking.

    They can't ban anything. What bit of they advise based on their remit and the government makes the decisions, don't you get?


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  • #8047
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Even if the government agree and put us into level 5, it’ll make **** all difference.

    Anyone hosting or attending house parties aren’t going to stop at any level, especially since there is legally no way to stop them anyway.

    Those of us who have followed rules and have done as much as we can won’t want to keep towing the line and suffering financially when it’s no longer about protecting the health service, but picking up the slack from the dregs of society that can’t be bothered playing their part.

    My LEA is below national avg in Dublin, while my sisters LEA is double the avg, but she went to her local in Galway today for dinner. I can accept that as I understand there’s only a certain level of granularity you can get to and counties make sense IMO.

    As another poster said, I’d probably lean more cautious in terms of our reaction to covid, but this is a joke, even if rejected by govt, NPHET are losing credibility with such drastic reaction without publicly available data to back it up.


  • #8048
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Hand in Your Pants wrote: »
    Solution to what? It is a contagious virus that is less lethal than the flu. Absolutely the discussion needs to be around protecting older and more vulnerable people and for everyone else to continue life more or less as normal apart from mask wearing and social distancing in certain circumstances. I mean, what is it (apart from actually denying a whole range of seriously ill or special needs people access to treatment and services for another month) that you think another lock down will achieve? The virus is not going away. Probably ever.

    you lost me at less lethal than the flu.


  • #8049
    Looney1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Looney1


    Level 4 is very similar to 5. Not much difference either way


  • #8050
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    The NPHET advice would be the same regardless of who is in government. Like it or not that is their professional recommendation, they don't have any agenda apart from saving lives and protecting people's health.

    The govt don't have to follow it.

    If an engineer recommended you fix the foundations of your house as there was a certain percentage risk it could collapse and injure you or your family, would you fix them?


  • #8051
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Numbers going up worldwide, increasing restrictions in place worldwide, and people are still going on as if any changes are some nefarious NPHET plot.

    I'm not happy if we go to level 5 either but come on.
    It's not the Level 5 it's the complete lack of warning for everyone. It's not March and many have worked very hard to be able to deal with restrictions. The general irritation about this is that we are suddenly looking at a potential 3 level leap.


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  • #8052
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    They aren't. It's a combination of online and on site. There have definitely been college lectures in the building I work in (albeit socially distanced and masked), and obviously practical labs and projects have to occur in person. Also, as we saw in Galway and Limerick, students are still congregating in groups outside of college even if the majority of lectures are online.

    Exactly. You can't do lab work online.


  • #8053
    Hand in Your Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Hand in Your Pants


    froog wrote: »
    you lost me at less lethal than the flu.

    Yes. That's your problem.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/summer-flu-is-now-more-deadly-than-covid


  • #8054
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,310 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The UK dug up some extra cases from the last few days

    The trajectory regardless is all too clear and familiar.

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    When this migrates to the frail and older coupled with the onset of winter illnessness it is going to be appalling. Tough times ahead. :(

    Suppression is the only way to break transmission. They need their first so-called "circuit breaker".


  • #8055
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Hand in Your Pants wrote: »
    It is a contagious virus that is less lethal than the flu.
    Hand in Your Pants wrote: »
    Absolutely the discussion needs to be around protecting older and more vulnerable people and for everyone else to continue life more or less as normal apart from mask wearing and social distancing in certain circumstances

    Total contradiction. Less lethal (not true) but we need to keep up wearing masks and social distance which we don’t do with the flu.


  • #8056
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    TexasTornado wrote: »
    Bizarre isn't it. You'd swear the virus was originated from NPHET's office ffs.

    I think it is evident, mentally a lot of people are not equipped to deal with what we are facing and you can see that in posts on this thread. Posters are lashing out with various ramblings including attacking the experts who have an unenviable job.

    For many of us, it's the first major test of our lifetimes (myself included at 33).

    It's tough but the older generations have been through WW2, extreme poverty and other pandemics amongst on the way and now face this pandemic that could finish them. They are quite battle hardened compared to a lot of the younger generations.

    When the dust settles, these threads will make very interesting reading around hysteria and panic.


  • #8057
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    Level 5 won't happen. Everyone calm down.


  • #8058
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Goldrickssan wrote: »
    Why do we keep selling fags in this country when almost 6k a year die from it and thousands of others develop long term diseases? Including kids.

    When was it decided that was allowed so?

    what about cigarettes?

    that's a new one in fairness. well done. :D


  • #8059
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DareGod wrote: »
    Locking down the country for a cold.

    This is the first year we've had the government counting up and announcing daily how many people in the country have a cold that day, and locking us home and destroying lives... because of a cold.

    (99.9% survival rate, before you try to convince yourself that you've been right to believe all this time that it's not just a cold.)

    Nonsense. Stop believing it.

    Donald? Is that you?


  • #8060
    Juwwi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    DareGod wrote: »
    Locking down the country for a cold.

    This is the first year we've had the government counting up and announcing daily how many people in the country have a cold that day, and locking us home and destroying lives... because of a cold.

    (99.9% survival rate, before you try to convince yourself that you've been right to believe all this time that it's not just a cold.)

    Nonsense. Stop believing it.

    How many people end up in hospital with a cold ,, thats what its all about at the end of the day ,, if we got 5000 cases a day but it was just a cold it wouldnt matter , we dont have the hospital beds ,, its a disgrace that we dont we went through the Celtic Tiger and didnt improve the hospital situation .

    But its obviously not just a cold and your sort of attitude is why its spreading like a forest fire at the moment ,


  • #8061
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Forget level 5, the best thing this Gov could do is immediately suspend all team sports. I love the GAA but I'm sick of seeing the celebrations of teams winning championships leading to new clusters. Sure a night follows day, the celebrations where all social distancing goes out the window leads to a new surge in positive cases around each imvolved team.


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  • #8062
    Hand in Your Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Hand in Your Pants


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    Total contradiction. Less lethal (not true) but we need to keep up wearing masks and social distance which we don’t do with the flu.

    Nope. It is less lethal but more contagious.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/summer-flu-is-now-more-deadly-than-covid


  • #8063
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I think it is evident, mentally a lot of people are not equipped to deal with what we are facing and you can see that in posts on this thread. Posters are lashing out with various ramblings including attacking the experts who have an unenviable job.

    For many of us, it's the first major test of our lifetimes (myself included at 33).

    It's tough but the older generations have been through WW2, extreme poverty and other pandemics amongst on the way and now face this pandemic that could finish them. They are quite battle hardened compared to a lot of the younger generations.


    Exactly! They didn't become battle hardened overnight, either, and I'm sure they'd have preferred not to have to. Ditto for the people in war-torn areas, or living under a dictatorship. This is for the common good.


  • #8064
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Blondini wrote: »
    Level 5 won't happen. Everyone calm down.

    TBH there isn't a massive difference between level 4 and level 5


  • #8065
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Level 4 is very similar to 5. Not much difference either way
    Well there's the 5km limit with Level 5 - that's a fairly notable difference.

    For moving to Level 4, the huge difference is that you basically don't get to meet anyone socially.


  • #8066
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,632 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    DareGod wrote: »
    Locking down the country for a cold.

    This is the first year we've had the government counting up and announcing daily how many people in the country have a cold that day, and locking us home and destroying lives... because of a cold.

    (99.9% survival rate, before you try to convince yourself that you've been right to believe all this time that it's not just a cold.)

    Nonsense. Stop believing it.

    You should go and educate yourself and maybe speak to some of our healthcare professionals that have been slaving away in hospital since March before posting drivel like this, with the greatest of respect that I can find.


  • #8067
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,987 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    NPHET should not be playing politics, and they are.

    Give a dog a bone and they will soon be getting ideas of fillet steak.


  • #8068
    CptMackey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    Hand in Your Pants wrote: »
    Nope. It is less lethal but more contagious.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/summer-flu-is-now-more-deadly-than-covid

    I wouldn't rely on the Spector for medical advice


  • #8069
    Hand in Your Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Hand in Your Pants


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    .

    It's tough but the older generations have been through WW2, extreme poverty and other pandemics amongst on the way and now face this pandemic that could finish them. They are quite battle hardened compared to a lot of the younger generations.

    When the dust settles, these threads will make very interesting reading around hysteria and panic.

    I see we are coming out with the WW2 clichés again. Next we'll be out at midnight clapping for the "front line medics".


  • #8070
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Danzy wrote: »
    Their remit is to give what they consider to be the best course of action for minimizing the disease and the risk to public health. That's their remit.

    The Cabinet then have to balance that with other concerns.

    So NPHET are saying what must be done to minimize the threat to public health from Covid19. That doesn't mean it will be done, as other considerations come in to play.

    Eh yes, that was exactly my point. They should be advising the government who then make the decisions, leaking their advice to the public in advance of that (constantly, not just tonight) is where they completely overstep their remit.


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  • #8071
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The trajectory regardless is all too clear and familiar.

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    Not too familiar. Let's present the full picture.
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