Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

delly · 04-10-2020 09:04PM

No messing with Tony, glad to have him back. NPHET deal with the facts, and if you're getting April numbers now, why wouldn't they recommend the highest level of social restrictions, it'll be for the government to decide on how to react vs the effect on the economy.

gmisk · 04-10-2020 09:04PM

Eod100 wrote: »

About as useful as what this guy has.. https://twitter.com/PPAI_IRL/status/1312844646884745216

FFS....imagine being that guy...or even knowing him...tit

is_that_so · 04-10-2020 09:04PM

gmisk wrote: »

Seemingly Israel had protests too...some protesting lockdown...some saying its not strict enough.

From what I have seen Irish people have got slack to a certain degree.
Irish people need to get better at wearing masks, buses and business have to refuse service if no mask, limit numbers based on capacity better as well.

It's not the masks, it's the other behaviour.

walshb · 04-10-2020 09:04PM

statesaver wrote: »

Northern Ireland is a country riddled.

Not a country I am aware of..

gmisk · 04-10-2020 09:05PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's not the masks, it's the other behaviour.

You mean the house parties meeting up etc?
Probably to a degree but really hard to police.

Jinglejangle69 · 04-10-2020 09:05PM

gmisk wrote: »

I don't disagree....but the numbers in Northern Ireland are becoming utterly bonkers as well, and that is outside of our control. The positivity rate up there is something crazy like 15 percent!

So what's the point in making us all adhere to level 5 so?

Totally unfair

GazzaL · 04-10-2020 09:05PM

NPHET are a greater threat to the people of Ireland than the Black and Tans were.

walshb · 04-10-2020 09:06PM

road_high wrote: »

Two words for the likes of you - kindly FO. You politely go off and do your thing. And If you’re that worried Stay home

It’s this hostility and refusal to cooperate and work with and meet people half way that has us here..

odyssey06 · 04-10-2020 09:06PM

delly wrote: »

No messing with Tony, glad to have him back. NPHET deal with the facts, and if you're getting April numbers now, why wouldn't they recommend the highest level of social restrictions, it'll be for the government to decide on how to react vs the effect on the economy.

April numbers were just tip of iceberg due to lack of testing capacity.
Same numbers now are the extent of it.

Atlantic Dawn · 04-10-2020 09:06PM

Without shutting down all visitors coming in the country going Level 5 is pointless.

Skid X · 04-10-2020 09:06PM

There is no way the Government will accept Level 5, NPHET are acting like a dictatorship.

There will be horse trading and we will end up somewhere between Level 3 and 4.

Fuascailteoir · 04-10-2020 09:07PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

Did you not see there has been a huge amount of savings built up by people this year.

Built up by some people. A lot of other people have also lost a lot

ChikiChiki · 04-10-2020 09:07PM

GazzaL wrote: »

NPHET are a greater threat to the people of Ireland than the Black and Tans were.

Bit of a leap there....

Jinglejangle69 · 04-10-2020 09:07PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that 1000s of nurses etc came home and only 80 were employed at the start of the pandemic?

Could we not have spent big and built up our ICU numbers with all these staff?

6 months later and it's still all about the hospitals been overrun.

Hell even build a temporary hospital just for patients with covid who require ICU rooms.

What did the HSE actually do when we flattened the curve and gave them time to find a solution????

I'll bump this.

Cody montana · 04-10-2020 09:07PM

Skid X wrote: »

There is no way the Government will accept Level 5, NPHET are acting like a dictatorship.

There will be horse trading and we will end up somewhere between Level 3 and 4.

It's disgraceful.

May lead to rebellion.
And I'll join them.

bb1234567 · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

gmisk wrote: »

Seemingly Israel had protests too...some protesting lockdown...some saying its not strict enough.

From what I have seen Irish people have got slack to a certain degree.
Irish people need to get better at wearing masks, buses and business have to refuse service if no mask, limit numbers based on capacity better as well.

Israel is going through a serious public health emergency with a very real threat of health system collpase as ICU admissions will reach 1000 this week in a country of 10 million. So at least it is justified in some sense.

We on the other hand are facing a similar lockdown for basically no reason

gmisk · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

road_high wrote: »

Two words for the likes of you - kindly FO. You politely go off and do your thing. And If you’re that worried Stay home

You can FO I am going by what I have seen.
I am not at risk age or health wise but I have been doing my very best to follow guidelines unlike a lot of other fecking eejits

Eod100 · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

GazzaL wrote: »

NPHET are a greater threat to the people of Ireland than the Black and Tans were.

Ah give over. They're hardly doing it for the hell of it. Maybe thinking is level 4 for 4 weeks and then bring country back to level 2 vs rolling level 3 restrictions.

BringBackMick · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

delly wrote: »

No messing with Tony, glad to have him back. NPHET deal with the facts, and if you're getting April numbers now, why wouldn't they recommend the highest level of social restrictions, it'll be for the government to decide on how to react vs the effect on the economy.

Numbers now are nothing like they were in April, you do realise that?

It is likely they were ten times higher than reported due to lack of testing, everybody knows this.

TexasTornado · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

GazzaL wrote: »

NPHET are a greater threat to the people of Ireland than the Black and Tans were.

Lol

road_high · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

walshb wrote: »

It’s this hostility and refusal to cooperate and work with and meet people half way that has us here..

I don’t care. I’m not interested in “working with anybody“. I’ve no interest in pointless lockdowns. They don’t work. If they work for you then off you go- I’m not stopping you from implementing your own one

is_that_so · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

gmisk wrote: »

You mean the house parties meeting up etc?
Probably to a degree but really hard to police.

That's the slack behaviour you talked about, the personal responsibility.

Seamai · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Tony’s first act back.

Cancel Christmas.

Between this and today's shíte weather I wish I could hibernate til next April.

Happydays2020 · 04-10-2020 09:08PM

Tony our leader is back with a bang. lets see how our elected Government react to this. The senior officials group and the party leaders may not be in the mood to accept this.

Are schools open on level 5?

Roots 2020 · 04-10-2020 09:09PM

Tony Holohan does love a good lockdown!

Surely a bit extreme. He must really be worried about the health service becoming overwhelmed.

rockatansky · 04-10-2020 09:09PM

road_high wrote: »

Two words for the likes of you - kindly FO. You politely go off and do your thing. And If you’re that worried Stay home

You absolute simpleton.

Gods Gift · 04-10-2020 09:09PM

Cody montana wrote: »

It's disgraceful.

May lead to rebellion.
And I'll join them.

When is it coz I’ve to get the car tested next week.

Inquitus · 04-10-2020 09:09PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Israel is going through a serious public health emergency with a very real threat of health system collpase as ICU admissions will reach 1000 this week in a country of 10 million. So at least it is justified in some sense.

We on the other hand are facing a similar lockdown for basically no reason

We had only 29 ICU beds left yesterday and as we know there is a significant lag between testing positive and hospital admission, this is clearly highly concerning for NPHET.

hmmm · 04-10-2020 09:09PM

delly wrote: »

No messing with Tony, glad to have him back. NPHET deal with the facts, and if you're getting April numbers now, why wouldn't they recommend the highest level of social restrictions, it'll be for the government to decide on how to react vs the effect on the economy.

I agree that they have to act if they think it is the right thing to do, but something has gone badly wrong if we're jumping to a national Level 5 from a Level 2 across most of the country.

Why was the country not moved to 3 a week ago? Why were pubs allowed to reopen?

Businesses need to be given some chance to prepare for restrictions - I'd say most will be completely flat-footed by this. It might be obvious to NPHET for a while that this was on the cards, but I'd say most people outside the room were not aware.

Richard Hillman · 04-10-2020 09:10PM

It's times like this when you need a Cersei Lannister as leader and arrange a NPHET meeting at the citadel.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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