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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • #7682
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭maebee


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    You think Sinn Fein are the worst party in the country? You'd wanna take off your blinkers.

    I didn't say Sinn Féin are the worst party in the country. They nearly made it in the last election and if FF, FG and Greens were to be hit the way you suggested, I would imagine SF would run more candidates and be miles ahead of Labour and the indies

    No need for the nasty blinkers remark.


  • #7683
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    I reckon the decision makers know that hard restrictions around meeting people will be nigh impossible to enforce around Christmas.
    Best to go in hard over next month or so and hope the virus spread reduces dramatically to allow people to enjoy Christmas with family and friends.
    That needs to be communicated properly. If recent efforts are anything to go by that's a very tall order.


  • #7684
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,543 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Their thoughts might be.... Lock down hard now. Circuit break. Open up for the big spend pre Christmas and allow the gatherings. Then deal with the next mess in New Year.

    What an idiotic way of thinking then.


  • #7685
    ongarite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Level 5 is politically toxic.
    No-one is standing for that again & a huge number of business will fold for good.

    We haven't even given Dublin 3 weeks to see if it has worked in levelling off cases as today has shown with Dublin % of daily cases failing.
    Putting whole county to Level 3 is more palatable.


  • #7686
    political analyst
    Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Has NPHET forgotten that shutting down the economy means less tax revenue and thus less money for the health service? There couldn't be many non-vulnerable people who have severe symptoms.


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  • #7687
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Hard to see Holohans justification


  • #7688
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,445 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Their thoughts might be.... Lock down hard now. Circuit break. Open up for the big spend pre Christmas and allow the gatherings. Then deal with the next mess in New Year.

    What big spend ? Most people will have no money


  • #7689
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Tony back with a boom


  • #7690
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    I believe ireland has lots of covid cases out there. More we test the more we’ll find. Like dr feeney said on primetime. First case was in Feb I think. But he said a man died in cork hospital 2 weeks previous from covid. It’s out there. And it’ll have to take its course.


  • #7691
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,543 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    billyhead wrote: »
    Some people only have themselves to blame for this mess.

    It’s a virus. It lives on humans. It’s not going any where. Regardless of how much you finger wave and moralise at people. Deal with it


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  • #7692
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,303 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Looks like government going to put up alot of resistance here

    Resistance??

    They are the fcuking decision makers.

    Tell NPHET that the country and economy cannot do another total lock down..... So tell NPHET come back with practical recommendations to protect the most vulnerable without sabotaging the economy and everyone's future


  • #7693
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    What big spend ? Most people will have no money

    Did you not see there has been a huge amount of savings built up by people this year.


  • #7694
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,192 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Their thoughts might be.... Lock down hard now. Circuit break. Open up for the big spend pre Christmas and allow the gatherings. Then deal with the next mess in New Year.
    The point of a circuit break is it is flagged well in advance giving people and businesses time to prepare, and avoiding a sense of panic.

    Going to level 5 next week would induce panic. They can't be doing this to people, these things need to be flagged well in advance.

    I'm still hoping RTE have just got the news wrong and it's a discussion of Level 3/4 which would make more sense to me.


  • #7695
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,543 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Really wouldn't be surprised to see protests in Dublin like what occurred in Serbia this week if that actually goes ahead

    And well there should be. And it won’t be a lunatic fringe any more I can tell you


  • #7696
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    No more flights and tourists in from Texas or whatever other country is riddled.

    Whike asking us here to stay at home.

    Absolutely ludicrous.


  • #7697
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Hard to see Holohans justification

    He is letting us know who’s in charge.


  • #7698
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,303 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Their thoughts might be.... Lock down hard now. Circuit break. Open up for the big spend pre Christmas and allow the gatherings. Then deal with the next mess in New Year.

    Nuts, Competely nuts.

    The ABSOLUTE WORST course of action is to go for a lockdown / open up rinse and repeat cycle.


  • #7699
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Really wouldn't be surprised to see protests in Dublin like what occurred in Serbia this week if that actually goes ahead
    Seemingly Israel had protests too...some protesting lockdown...some saying its not strict enough.

    From what I have seen Irish people have got slack to a certain degree.
    Irish people need to get better at wearing masks, buses and business have to refuse service if no mask, limit numbers based on capacity better as well.


  • #7700
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    No more flights and tourists in from Texas or whatever other country is riddled.

    While asking us here to stay at home.

    Absolutely ludicrous.


  • #7701
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    NPHET are just thinking, Europe's going back into lockdown, Donnies gonna kick the bucket and we're heading for lockdown eventually, so fcuk it why wait?

    Taking a completely black and white view of it I cant blame them but it still blows.


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  • #7702
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,543 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    political analyst wrote: »
    Has NPHET forgotten that shutting down the economy means less tax revenue and thus less money for the health service? There couldn't be many non-vulnerable people who have severe symptoms.

    Nphet dont give a toss about such minor inconveniences. They’re a pampered, privileged group who’ll always be paid full whack regardless of what happens.


  • #7703
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Before agreeing to Level 5 the government should get Stormont and Westminster involved, no point doing this unless the goal is effective elimination which will require quarantine for inward travel to the Island and for Northern Ireland to basically go down the same route.

    Politically it is probable impossible but otherwise we'll just be opening up in a month's time having achieved little other than giving ourselves a few months before more restrictions.


  • #7704
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    New Home wrote: »
    I posted a link to official research on face shields/visors a while back: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114731852&postcount=2161 and that was about full visors, not the equivalent of a protective sport cup, only smaller! These are a piss-take, as well as a mistake.


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    About as useful as what this guy has.. https://twitter.com/PPAI_IRL/status/1312844646884745216


  • #7705
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    hmmm wrote: »
    The point of a circuit break is it is flagged well in advance giving people and businesses time to prepare, and avoiding a sense of panic.

    Going to level 5 next week would induce panic. They can't be doing this to people, these things need to be flagged well in advance.

    I'm still hoping RTE have just got the news wrong and it's a discussion of Level 3/4 which would make more sense to me.

    I'm only speculating as to what the thought process might be.


  • #7706
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    No more flights and tourists in from Texas or whatever other country is riddled.

    While asking us here to stay at home.

    Absolutely ludicrous.
    I don't disagree....but the numbers in Northern Ireland are becoming utterly bonkers as well, and that is outside of our control. The positivity rate up there is something crazy like 15 percent!


  • #7707
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    No more flights and tourists in from Texas or whatever other country is riddled.

    Whike asking us here to stay at home.

    Absolutely ludicrous.

    Northern Ireland is a country riddled.


  • #7708
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Tony’s first act back.




    Cancel Christmas.


  • #7709
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Yea this stinks now when you look at the bigger picture.....Tony obviously wanted to come back for a reason, he wasn't happy with how things were going and he has after pulled a mad one here.

    He really should have been told to continue his time off tbf.


  • #7710
    quartz1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭quartz1


    What choice have NPHET.... Hospitals will be overrun in a few weeks including routine healthcare ........ Awful economically but reality is reality.


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  • #7711
    quartz1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭quartz1


    What choice have NPHET.... Hospitals will be overrun in a few weeks including routine healthcare ........ Awful economically but reality is reality.


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