Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

copeyhagen · 04-10-2020 12:36AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Donald looks like he just did a bump it seems......
Feeling great but clearly worried about the next few days.
Wish him all the best but he'll use it for maximum political clout.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312525833505058816?s=20

so its real niw, not the chyna flu hoax

caveat emptor · 04-10-2020 12:43AM

copeyhagen wrote: »

so its real niw, not the chyna flu hoax

They'll pray it away.
He looks genuinely worried about the 6-10 day inflammation response.
If he comes through unscathed it will be a signal to the anti mask crowd that it's not so bad.
If he goes the route of bojo then maybe we'll see a change in attitudes there.
It's hard to believe this stuff unless it's at your door.

Always_Running · 04-10-2020 01:04AM

majcos wrote: »

HSE operations report for 3/10
132 in hospital as of 8pm.
20 in ICU.

Paul Reid tweeted at 11am that there was 113 in hospital but according to the HSE update the lowest number today was 120?

For comparison last Saturday we had 110 in hospital and 18 in ICU.

JP Liz V1 · 04-10-2020 01:10AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

At least Dr Tony will be there to comfort us during the next full lockdown, he is like the nations favourite Uncle. Grim days ahead guys as the situation rapidly deteriorates into oblivion before our very eyes. I hope Anto and Deco at the bar are satisfied now.

Uncle Fester

Goldengirl · 04-10-2020 01:16AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Figure 5: Number of confirmed COVID-19 cases notified in Ireland by date/week of notification and occupation* from
18/09/2020 to midnight 01/10/2020
*Among cases aged 16-69 years

So is it based on everyone regardless of occupation, but only aged 16-69
Or is it based on everyone's occupation aged 16-69 and also schoolchildren.

And what is classed as an unknown occupation?

I read that as unknown being clusters of unknown origin .
It is ambiguous alright .

majcos · 04-10-2020 01:17AM

Always_Running wrote: »

Paul Reid tweeted at 11am that there was 113 in hospital but according to the HSE update the lowest number today was 120?

For comparison last Saturday we had 110 in hospital and 18 in ICU.

There may have been 113 at time of his tweet but I don’t know for sure and am only surmising that. It’s highly likely there were discharges and admissions between the 8am count and 2pm count and again between the 2pm and 8pm count.

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 01:18AM

Always_Running wrote: »

Paul Reid tweeted at 11am that there was 113 in hospital but according to the HSE update the lowest number today was 120?

For comparison last Saturday we had 110 in hospital and 18 in ICU.

The dashboard gets updated at different times than the HSE reports.
So it could have been as low as 113 this morning and 120 by 8pm

04-10-2020 01:19AM

speckle wrote: »

Very true as a family we have had a few deaths in recent years. People also forget that you are trying to deal with grief while doing paperwork for the death certificate, organizing the will/estate, the funeral, possibly making arrangements for care of other elderly family members, sorting through personal effects, tired from organizing the funeral and if down the country taking a whole day out to get a single piece of paperwork and possibly having to continue work at the same time. And some families have limited access to transport or no younger family members to help.
My condolences, potentially a very traumatic sudden death, hope your family back on track and are remembering the good memories.

Thanks. It was very hard on my wife as she was very close to her mother, but really hard on her grandparents as she and her brother looked after them.
We weren't actually married at the time, just engaged, but after talking about it, she moved back in with them and her uncle to help out. Her grandfather never really got over her death however and passed away six months later and her grandmother a year later.
All in all a pretty rough two years, but my wife is happy that she took the time out to be with them and help her uncle out.

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 01:20AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

I read that as unknown being clusters of unknown origin .
It is ambiguous alright .

My guess is either unemployed/refusing to divulge their occupation or their occupation wasn't where they contracted it.

fleet_admiral · 04-10-2020 01:23AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

At least Dr Tony will be there to comfort us during the next full lockdown, he is like the nations favourite Uncle. Grim days ahead guys as the situation rapidly deteriorates into oblivion before our very eyes. I hope Anto and Deco at the bar are satisfied now.

What about Sorcha and Aoife and their Hendricks Gin?

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 01:24AM

Always_Running wrote: »

Paul Reid tweeted at 11am that there was 113 in hospital but according to the HSE update the lowest number today was 120?

For comparison last Saturday we had 110 in hospital and 18 in ICU.

majcos wrote: »

There may have been 113 at time of his tweet but I don’t know for sure and am only surmising that. It’s highly likely there were discharges and admissions between the 8am count and 2pm count and again between the 2pm and 8pm count.

Hospital stats are updated many times daily, for the most part, on here we mainly focus on the HSE reports that are released at 10pm. We kinda use that as a benchmark for comparing day to day trends. Paul Reid could be using a different source from internal reports he's privy to.

spookwoman · 04-10-2020 01:42AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Hospital stats are updated many times daily, for the most part, on here we mainly focus on the HSE reports that are released at 10pm. We kinda use that as a benchmark for comparing day to day trends. Paul Reid could be using a different source from internal reports he's privy to.

They have a linked system that lists critical bed info for the hospital https://dmfsystems.ie/critical-icu-bed-information-system-developed-implemented-nationwide-during-covid-19/

Richard Hillman · 04-10-2020 01:43AM

There needs to be an independent adjudicator on the numbers released. The HSE/NPHET have reduced credibility. There are so many people who are skeptical about the numbers they are releasing. 10 deaths today, 8 from before September, 6 deaths denotified yesterday.

There is far far too much faith and trust being put to them. Just because they got 600+ points in the leaving cert and decided to study medicine doesn't make them honorable people.

bb1234567 · 04-10-2020 02:03AM

Perhaps wait and see when the deaths actually occurred before judging so harshly . If the deaths are from August then that is a pretty stndard length of delay in death reporting. As for the denotification, surely a good sign no? That we are constantly revising the death toll for optimum accuracy.

bb1234567 · 04-10-2020 02:04AM

Perhaps we wait and see when the deaths actually occurred before judging so harshly . If the deaths are from August then that is a pretty stndard length of delay in death reporting and nothing to get so worked up over.

As for the denotification, surely a good sign no? That we are constantly revising the death toll for optimum accuracy.

bb1234567 · 04-10-2020 02:09AM

Feck this site is a pain at times cant even delete all the copies

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 02:19AM

Always_Running wrote: »

Paul Reid tweeted at 11am that there was 113 in hospital but according to the HSE update the lowest number today was 120?

For comparison last Saturday we had 110 in hospital and 18 in ICU.

spookwoman wrote: »

They have a linked system that lists critical bed info for the hospital https://dmfsystems.ie/critical-icu-bed-information-system-developed-implemented-nationwide-during-covid-19/

I'm always curious about the behind the scenes systems.
I had to use swiftqueue recently to book in for blood tests (I use to always just arrive and wait) Apart from having to wait 2 weeks for a date, it was a really quick and fluid system. Appointment at 3pm and I was shocked to have had my name called at 3pm. For day to day running of the hospitals they still have the exact same service, apart from the hand sanitizers, it's a foamy horrible soapy thing now (totally understandable in this climate)

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 02:20AM

Always_Running wrote: »

Paul Reid tweeted at 11am that there was 113 in hospital but according to the HSE update the lowest number today was 120?

For comparison last Saturday we had 110 in hospital and 18 in ICU.

bb1234567 wrote: »

Feck this site is a pain at times cant even delete all the copies

I feel ya, lucky I spam reply and I get a duplicate message has been posted and stop duplicates, but it's a pain in the ass!

Arghus · 04-10-2020 02:33AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Perhaps we wait and see when the deaths actually occurred before judging so harshly . If the deaths are from August then that is a pretty stndard length of delay in death reporting and nothing to get so worked up over.

As for the denotification, surely a good sign no? That we are constantly revising the death toll for optimum accuracy.

The same people giving out about the denotifications are the same who complain about how deaths attributed to Covid are artificially inflated.

US2 · 04-10-2020 03:48AM

They literally said if you have covid and are asymptomatic and fall off a ladder and die, it's a covid death. Pay no attention to these numbers, go and live your life. Covid is milder than flu for the vast majority of population.

Renjit · 04-10-2020 03:52AM

US2 wrote: »

They literally said if you have covid and are asymptomatic and fall off a ladder and die, it's a covid death. Pay no attention to these numbers, go and live your life. Covid is milder than flu for the vast majority of population.

Be grand!

Kermit.de.frog · 04-10-2020 03:55AM

Belgium reports record 3,389 new cases and 7 new deaths. Surprising case count for a Sunday.

patnor1011 · 04-10-2020 04:31AM

Take a perfectly healthy person with no particular symptoms and swab the inside of their nose. If the culture shows the presence of staphylococcus aureus, do we insist they have a staph infection? When someone drives to work without incident or accident, do we create statistics about their exposure to traffic?

A virus is not a disease. Only a very small percentage of those exposed to the virus itself - SARS-CoV-2 - show any kind of acute respiratory symptoms, or what we can call "coronavirus disease."

The only meaningful statistics show the incidence of serious illness, hospitalizations, and deaths. The single most important statistic among these is the infection fatality rate (IFR). Data collected through July shows that the IFR for those under age forty-five is actually lower than that of the common flu. The covid-19 IFR rises for those over fifty, but it is hardly a death sentence. And the data does not segregate those with preexisting health issues caused by obesity, diabetes, and heart disease. If we could see data only for reasonably healthy people under fifty, the numbers would be even more reassuring.

Mild or asymptomatic covid cases are effectively meaningless. The world is full of bacteria and viruses, and sometimes they make us a bit sick for a few days. There are millions of them in the world all around us, on our skin, in our nose and respiratory tract, in our organs. We are meant to live with them, which is why we all have immune systems designed to help us coexist and adapt to ever-changing organisms. We develop antibodies naturally, or we attempt to stimulate them through vaccines, but ultimately our own immune systems have to deal with covid-19. The virus will always be out there waiting, on the other side of any lockdown or mask—so we might as well get on with it.

JTMan · 04-10-2020 07:51AM

Sunday Independent leads here (paywall) with the possibility that we will be moving to level 4.

ednwireland · 04-10-2020 08:04AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Going by the posts here id say they are saying, no no sure its too dodgy meet with the whole covid thing, let's give it a year or three.

JTMan wrote: »

Sunday Independent leads here (paywall) with the possibility that we will be moving to level 4.

not a hope 3.75 max

Santy2015 · 04-10-2020 08:07AM

JTMan wrote: »

Sunday Independent leads here (paywall) with the possibility that we will be moving to level 4.

He’s worried about the capacity in Dublin at the moment it was I’m taking from this. The rest of the country except for Letterkenny have stable hospital numbers. 65 of the 120 in hospital are In Dublin
Also level 4 will cripple the economy once again and with it comes the busiest time of the year for retail and some hospitality.

Golfman64 · 04-10-2020 08:12AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Serious problems ahead with the amount of cases escalating everywhere, I wouldn't expect travel to be as easy as you are indicating in a couple of weeks

It certainly won’t be as easy as Pre-COVID. However, the EU are aware of the significant economic consequences of continuing to operate without a common agreed travel policy through the Winter. Rest assured that whatever they finally agree on will take into account individual country, health and economic perspectives. As testing pre and post travel becomes a temporary normal, the cost of this will decrease, most likely.

prunudo · 04-10-2020 08:15AM

JTMan wrote: »

Sunday Independent leads here (paywall) with the possibility that we will be moving to level 4.

Are they hoping these sort of leaks will scare people into compliance? Will it be for a fortnight, then continually add another more weeks because 'we're not there yet' like in the spring.
And what when we come back from these restrictions, start back slapping until the next rise in infections and then look to blame another section of society.
Unfair on many counties to go straight to level 4 when their case numbers are low or steady.

wadacrack · 04-10-2020 08:29AM

GAA seem to be ignoring protocol's in Offaly

https://twitter.com/shanetcurran/status/1312523983321849856

The Wordress · 04-10-2020 09:51AM

I have to be honest and say I was easy going enough about this Virus during the Lockdown and I knew locally of cases but they were minimal.

In the last month, the virus has been spreading through my local town like Wildfire.

I know of 6 cases that came from a pub. They were all in the pub socialising together. One of the cases spread it into his workplace and now there are positive cases from there. I know that one of the work colleagues has a wife who is due any day and he will not be able to go near the hospital now.

It has really hit home of how rampant this virus is.

I will not be going near anyone outside of work for the forseeable future. People are playing with fire with other people's health.

We all need to be more responsible!!!

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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