Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Arghus · 03-10-2020 11:33PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

This scaremongering is not at all constructive. We are nowhere near a point where giving up hope has become the optimal option.

Paddy is the impish flâneur of the forum, whose role is to satirise our collective Covid fears.

He's pretty spot on a lot of the time, to be fair.

bb1234567 · 03-10-2020 11:35PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Almost as bad as the 2014 Winter excess deaths in the UK

UK excess deaths are 64,500

2014 excess deaths 44,000

niamh247 · 03-10-2020 11:36PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I'm aware of this, hence the tunnel metaphor... we are still walking through the darkness of the tunnel to reach the light at the end...

If we can weather the winter, we can wait our the rest of 2021 until a vaccine comes, whether it's early, middle or late 2021. We've got this far. We will probably need to increase the restrictions and suffer socially for a while longer, but with every day that passes we are one step closer to the vaccine.

As a country, we are getting through this one day at a time. I've been posting on boards about Covid since it broke out in China and between the bad and the moderately optimistic, I've enjoyed sharing observations and offering commentary with the best boards has to offer. I know today has been sobering for a lot of people - let alone the madness in the US right now - but it's important to remember that there will be a quality of life after this, we will regain our previous standard of living and our ability to live our lives the way they were. And it's not too far away if we can keep ourselves from reaching a breaking point until then.

Interesting. Do you think we citizens have a responsibility to remind govt that, schools are meant to be learning places, and not just used as child-care centres to shove children into, so that the parents can return to the "economy factory"?

This objective is being very explicitly mentioned several times by the authorities in recent days on why it is top priority to keep schools open. Does that reasoning bother you? Does it bother to reason that a large number of kids (10 times of known cases) might already be carrying the virus asymptomatically, causing infections among the households?

Optimism is good, but I think it should not make us blind to the reasoning.

FintanMcluskey · 03-10-2020 11:38PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

UK excess deaths are 64,500

Where you see that figure?

Not being disingenuous, I've not seen it that high

Wolf359f · 03-10-2020 11:40PM

niamh247 wrote: »

May be you should take a re-look at the report. More than 33% of the cases are under 24 years of age and the school children and school staff has a significant contribution to the cases (Ref: Bar Chart on Page 10)

Don't forget the *
*Among cases aged 16-69 years
So it's excluding ages 0-15

Goldengirl · 03-10-2020 11:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You can clearly see in the HPSC reports that the percentage of cases that are school related remains miniscule :rolleyes:

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20201002%20-%20website.pdf

From that particular data you posted percentage of school related cases are not mininscule.
Looks to me that they are consistently running higher than healthcare workers, correct me if I am reading it wrong .
The smallest numbers so far are in teachers alright which is good .

Goldengirl · 03-10-2020 11:44PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Almost as bad as the 2014 Winter excess deaths in the UK

Really Fintan , do tell ?

niamh247 · 03-10-2020 11:44PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Don't forget the *
*Among cases aged 16-69 years
So it's excluding ages 0-15

Then it is even much worse, because then the school children in ages 16-69 years contribute significantly to total cases?.

maebee · 03-10-2020 11:45PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Would a 12 month stay of communions and confirmations actually have any impact on anything?

There should be a Lifelong stay on these ridiculous traditions, imo.

Goldengirl · 03-10-2020 11:46PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Don't forget the *
*Among cases aged 16-69 years
So it's excluding ages 0-15

No, that asterisk is for " occupations "

bb1234567 · 03-10-2020 11:46PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Where you see that figure?

Not being disingenuous, I've not seen it that high

Most sources I've seen stated 64,500 excess deaths in the UK. Although I have seen a few alternative figures around too tbf. Think it has dropped since summer also but havn't seen a definitive overall 2020 figure for the country that includes that dip

caveat emptor · 03-10-2020 11:46PM

Is there any chance trump's positive is the equivalent of Stephen donnely's cough?

Wolf359f · 03-10-2020 11:48PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

No, that asterisk is for " occupations "

You can read it either way I guess.

Hand in Your Pants · 03-10-2020 11:48PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Deaths from Covid in Britain are now 42317, sadly .
Maybe you could explain why you are picking one months figures ?
I suspect it suits your narrative .

I didn't pick one month's figures? Your reading comprehension is maybe not the best.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/summer-flu-is-now-more-deadly-than-covid

iguana · 03-10-2020 11:50PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

If it does switch on this year, it will be the fastest in history.

It won't. The Swine Flu vaccine in 2009 took less than 5 months from the WHO officially confirming evidence of a novel flu strain to the beginning of mass vaccination.

Goldengirl · 03-10-2020 11:52PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

You can read it either way I guess.

?
I don't get what you mean Wolf .

Goldengirl · 03-10-2020 11:53PM

Hand in Your Pants wrote: »

I didn't pick one month's figures? Your reading comprehension is maybe not the best.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/summer-flu-is-now-more-deadly-than-covid

No you said specifically " July " .
Edit . If you are going to get your figures from an article published over a month ago when UK was just coming out of restrictions so incidence and deaths were suppressed, then nothing else to say really .

majcos · 03-10-2020 11:54PM

HSE operations report for 3/10
132 in hospital as of 8pm.
20 in ICU.

Wolf359f · 03-10-2020 11:54PM

iguana wrote: »

It won't. The Swine Flu vaccine in 2009 took less than 5 months from the WHO officially confirming evidence of a novel flu strain to the beginning of mass vaccination.

People always seem to forget that little fact when downplaying having a vaccine for covid in a quick/accelerated time frame.

majcos · 03-10-2020 11:55PM

Apart from children’s hospitals, only Navan and Portiuncla have no confirmed cases.

Wolf359f · 03-10-2020 11:58PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

?
I don't get what you mean Wolf .

Figure 5: Number of confirmed COVID-19 cases notified in Ireland by date/week of notification and occupation* from
18/09/2020 to midnight 01/10/2020
*Among cases aged 16-69 years

So is it based on everyone regardless of occupation, but only aged 16-69
Or is it based on everyone's occupation aged 16-69 and also schoolchildren.

And what is classed as an unknown occupation?

04-10-2020 12:01AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

People always seem to forget that little fact when downplaying having a vaccine for covid in a quick/accelerated time frame.

The 2009 Swine flu pandemic was a H1N1 type A influenza strain, it required adaptation of an existing vaccine. This is a very different scenario it's a new strain of a virus type for which a vaccine has never been developed.

04-10-2020 12:01AM

wonski wrote: »

Quick question.

From RTÉ report they say that the department has been notified of 10 deaths, but 8 of those occurred prior to September. One death was "Denotified" as well from the totals.

What kind of post mortem take over a month to conclude the reason.

The numbers are huge and not looking good for all of us...

If someone have an answer that would be great, because for me it makes no sense at all.

When my mother in law died of a stroke unexpectedly we didn't get the official cause of death for close to eight weeks after her death. We knew what she died from because she was a nurse and actually died during a shift in work, but a postmortem still had to be carried out and the associated paper work for obvious reasons around an unexpected sudden death.
This was a few years ago but the same time lag is still in place from taking to friends who are doctors, so not really surprised.

Wolf359f · 04-10-2020 12:06AM

majcos wrote: »

HSE operations report for 3/10
132 in hospital as of 8pm.
20 in ICU.

That's a bit of a jump from this morning.
So may say, a lot of people with sprained ankles arriving to A&E.

I'm curious, someone with confirmed Covid (via a positive test days before), if they arrived at a hospital and needed treatment, would the HSE have access to their test results or test them again on admission?

majcos · 04-10-2020 12:06AM

Tallaght 19
James 14
Beaumont 13
Mater 13
Connolly 12
Letterkenny 11
Mullingar 7
Tullamore 7
Limerick 7
Mercy 4
Vincent’s 4
Waterford 3
Cavan 2
Cork 2
Drogheda 2
Kilkenny 2
Naas 2
Tralee 2
Galway 1
Mayo 1
Portlaoise 1
Sligo 1
Clonmel 1
Wexford 1

Kermit.de.frog · 04-10-2020 12:08AM

Maradona with the next generation of face shield

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majcos · 04-10-2020 12:17AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

That's a bit of a jump from this morning.
So may say, a lot of people with sprained ankles arriving to A&E.

I'm curious, someone with confirmed Covid (via a positive test days before), if they arrived at a hospital and needed treatment, would the HSE have access to their test results or test them again on admission?

HSE would have access to all community results apart from private testing but the individual hospital would not necessarily have direct access to confirm the result. The IT systems between GPs and hospitals are not all linked up and hospital IT systems are not linked up to each other so re-testing is likely even though you’d presume the staff would know immediately from patient or carer.

It depends on the hospital and the region if a particular hospital would have access to a particular patient’s swab done in the community. Some community swabs would happen to be sent to same hospital laboratory that patient is be admitted to. Other community swabs could be sent to NVRL or a different laboratory so hospital staff would not have direct access to result.

niallo27 · 04-10-2020 12:18AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Maradona with the next generation of face shield

Now that man is the greatest of all time, if he said lockdown.

speckle · 04-10-2020 12:21AM

DubInMeath wrote: »

When my mother in law died of a stroke unexpectedly we didn't get the official cause of death for close to eight weeks after her death. We knew what she died from because she was a nurse and actually died during a shift in work, but a postmortem still had to be carried out and the associated paper work for obvious reasons around an unexpected sudden death.
This was a few years ago but the same time lag is still in place from taking to friends who are doctors, so not really surprised.

Very true as a family we have had a few deaths in recent years. People also forget that you are trying to deal with grief while doing paperwork for the death certificate, organizing the will/estate, the funeral, possibly making arrangements for care of other elderly family members, sorting through personal effects, tired from organizing the funeral and if down the country taking a whole day out to get a single piece of paperwork and possibly having to continue work at the same time. And some families have limited access to transport or no younger family members to help.
My condolences, potentially a very traumatic sudden death, hope your family back on track and are remembering the good memories.

caveat emptor · 04-10-2020 12:33AM

Donald looks like he just did a bump it seems......
Feeling great but clearly worried about the next few days.
Wish him all the best but he'll use it for maximum political clout.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312525833505058816?s=20

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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