Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

US2 · 03-10-2020 02:56AM

polesheep wrote: »

Way to go you. A child under 15 dies every 5 seconds around the world. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/18-09-2018-a-child-under-15-dies-every-5-seconds-around-the-world-

In the time it took for me to write this about 15 children died from preventable illness. Don't you feel empowered by your use of wiki?

Someone think of the children! ****ing hell your weird mind

Oranage2 · 03-10-2020 03:10AM

polesheep wrote: »

Way to go you. A child under 15 dies every 5 seconds around the world. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/18-09-2018-a-child-under-15-dies-every-5-seconds-around-the-world-

In the time it took for me to write this about 15 children died from preventable illness. Don't you feel empowered by your use of wiki?

You've gone full SJW, never go full SJW

US2 · 03-10-2020 03:24AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

You've gone full SJW, never go full SJW

Not sure it's SJW but it's a very sad weird thing to be thinking about. Poster should seriously seek help.

Goldengirl · 03-10-2020 03:27AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah BBC pointing that out. White House has a full medical centre and all the doctors he could need, they wouldn't be moving him for the sake of it.

Talking about him being " fatigued" which is often how patients are described when in increasing respiratory distress.

Or they might just be being cautious . They have just given him Regeneron .

Gael23 · 03-10-2020 05:57AM

He’s only on day 3 so not at a point where ventilation would normally be needed

Eod100 · 03-10-2020 07:04AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Talking about him being " fatigued" which is often how patients are described when in increasing respiratory distress.

Or they might just be being cautious . They have just given him Regeneron .

Don't think they would give an experimental drug just as a precaution. Definitely not getting the full story I'd say.

patnor1011 · 03-10-2020 07:12AM

Geuze wrote: »

QE started in 2014, no sign of much consumer price inflation since.

Asset price inflation, yes.

Go ahead. Check energy, housing, shop prices and item sizes in 2014 and compare it to what is in shops now. If there is no inflation already I must be dreaming.

caveat emptor · 03-10-2020 07:15AM

Geuze wrote: »

Note that the ECB does not lend to Govts.

It never has, and never will.

So the ECB does not directly finance Irish Govt spending.

:pac:

Who said directly? They don't they buy bonds which are effectively IOUs. That's to national governments etc. Good thing they did this or the euro would have been gone.

They also bought quite a bit of Ryanair debt via corporate share purchase programs. The give money indirectly to banks also this way. Bank gets money at -0.5% and lends to stupid Irish mortgage holder (their words not mine) at 4%.

Many ways they do this. I'm not saying it's bad but the magic money tree is keeping many non viable business' afloat that would have failed. All in the name of inflation. The issuing of these bonds facilitates price inflation in their industry / service. This is the system.

Given the ECB’s main deposit rate is minus 0.5 per cent, the ultra-cheap lending is effectively a subsidy for the banking system and provides further evidence of how the ECB is pulling out all the stops to try to prevent the pandemic causing a credit crunch.
The banks are due to use about €765 billion of the ultra-cheap loans to repay earlier ECB loans that are about to mature. But they are expected to use much of the remaining €543 billion to buy bonds issued by their own governments – earning them an instant profit on the “carry trade” between the negative rate from the ECB and the higher yield on government bonds.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/banks-rush-to-borrow-record-1-3tn-at-negative-rates-from-ecb-1.4282382

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ecb-steps-up-support-for-credit-markets-11601540480

The central bank has also been active in transport, snapping up debt from airports and highways in Italy and France, as well as Airbus SE and International Consolidated Airlines Group SA, which owns British Airways. Auto makers have been another major recipient, with purchases of bonds issued by BMW AG , Daimler AG , Fiat Chrysler NV, PSA Group, Renault SA and Volkswagen AG .

https://twitter.com/zonnbergo/status/1278653545995214850?s=20

Goldrickssan · 03-10-2020 07:15AM

Gael23 wrote: »

He’s only on day 3 so not at a point where ventilation would normally be needed

Took 10 days between boris getting diagnosed and him moving to ICU

caveat emptor · 03-10-2020 07:20AM

Some talk of super spreader event in Rose garden in White House when Trump nominate the Supreme Court justice replacement.
Wonder who the index patient was. The people in colour in the photo have tested positive. Interesting that being outdoors doesn't save you when there's no distancing.

The event was Trump’s formal announcement that he was nominating Barrett to fill progressive champion Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s seat on the supreme court. Ginsburg, who died on 18 September, had made clear that her dying wish was that her seat on the court would not be filled “until a new president is installed”, and Democrats have argued her replacement should not be confirmed until after the 2020 election.

A visual guide produced by Politico demonstrated the growing number of Trump officials and allies who have tested positive for coronavirus since attending the ceremony. Many of those who have since announced they tested positive for the virus were seated close together.

https://twitter.com/tmthomasdc/status/1312177048786366465?s=20

Goldrickssan · 03-10-2020 07:49AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Some talk of super spreader event in Rose garden in White House when Trump nominate the Supreme Court justice replacement.
Wonder who the index patient was. The people in colour in the photo have tested positive. Interesting that being outdoors doesn't save you when there's no distancing.

https://twitter.com/tmthomasdc/status/1312177048786366465?s=20

Not a 9euro meal in sight. How were they expecting to survive.

caveat emptor · 03-10-2020 08:00AM

Merkel not taking any chances.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1312026988761284614?s=20

Paddygreen · 03-10-2020 08:26AM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Not a 9euro meal in sight. How were they expecting to survive.

The meal is just another layer of protection. It is proven that people keep their mouths closed most of the time while chewing. This is why I think on top of the meal rule it should be specified that meals are chewy, consisting mostly of food items that require significant chewing in order to swallow and extend chewing activity. The soakage should also delay the onset of drunkenness so at the end of the time people are allowed to stay In an establishment they should still be sober enough to hold firm,follow the rules and go home to stay safe from the petrifying virus. The next three weeks will be pivotal guys.

Funsterdelux · 03-10-2020 08:30AM

I see people are opening advocating Senicide/ geronticide on here.

shinzon · 03-10-2020 08:40AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

I see people are opening advocating Senicide/ geronticide on here.

Since the very beginning of these coronavirus threads there has been some truly horrifying demented disturbed rantings from individuals about this very topic. I truly think those people need to seek urgent psychiatric help because anyone who puts forward theories like that do in fact need it.

Shin

PowerToWait · 03-10-2020 08:46AM

polesheep wrote: »

but I'm bloody well fed up

I don't give a fu*k.

Your opinion and feelings are simply and utterly irrelevant. You can whinge and stamp your feet all you like, but it won't change public health policy.

You may as well not exist. That must be a tough realisation for one so self-important.

Keep posting on Boards though, demanding your agenda be catered to, like anyone gives a fcuk about it :pac:

Chicke · 03-10-2020 08:46AM

I went into the local petrol station yesterday to pay for petrol.3 people out of possibly 5/6 did not have a mask and all in a confined space ie small local petrol station. I would have liked to walk away but had to pay for petrol..I have been avoiding the bigger shopping centres to reduce risk but I have to buy petrol!! I dont know how people can be so cavelier and are effectively putring others in danger as we live in a very high case per 100k area.its incomprehensible that people not only are flouting the guudelines but are so careless about others lives

Gruffalux · 03-10-2020 08:57AM

shinzon wrote: »

Since the very beginning of these coronavirus threads there has been some truly horrifying demented disturbed rantings from individuals about this very topic. I truly think those people need to seek urgent psychiatric help because anyone who puts forward theories like that do in fact need it.

Shin

While frets about median and context and to mask or not have come and gone the callous disrespect of elders by a not inconsiderable few has been the pervasive constant in this whole scene.

PowerToWait · 03-10-2020 08:59AM

Chicke wrote: »

I went into the local petrol station yesterday to pay for petrol.3 people out of possibly 5/6 did not have a mask and all in a confined space ie small local petrol station. I would have liked to walk away but had to pay for petrol..I have been avoiding the bigger shopping centres to reduce risk but I have to buy petrol!! I dont know how people can be so cavelier and are effectively putring others in danger as we live in a very high case per 100k area.its incomprehensible that people not only are flouting the guudelines but are so careless about others lives

You only have to have a cursory glance through the various threads on here to see how lax many people's attitudes have gotten. Not to mention the OUTRAGE

People are FED UP

Who cares about this virus it ONLY KILLS OLD PEOPLE

Football is a HUMAN RIGHT

The economy is doomed.

Fcuk these old people and their vulnerability give me my pint and premier league back now

Paddygreen · 03-10-2020 09:00AM

Chicke wrote: »

I went into the local petrol station yesterday to pay for petrol.3 people out of possibly 5/6 did not have a mask and all in a confined space ie small local petrol station. I would have liked to walk away but had to pay for petrol..I have been avoiding the bigger shopping centres to reduce risk but I have to buy petrol!! I dont know how people can be so cavelier and are effectively putring others in danger as we live in a very high case per 100k area.its incomprehensible that people not only are flouting the guudelines but are so careless about others lives

Their naked faces make me sick (possibly literally). I was admonishing these types until some tracksuit deco decided to follow me home from Spar a couple of months ago while yelling and gesturing obscenities.

prunudo · 03-10-2020 09:06AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Some talk of super spreader event in Rose garden in White House when Trump nominate the Supreme Court justice replacement.
Wonder who the index patient was. The people in colour in the photo have tested positive. Interesting that being outdoors doesn't save you when there's no distancing.

https://twitter.com/tmthomasdc/status/1312177048786366465?s=20

Interestingly some of the people who tested positive are wearing masks. Were they flippant about them and other guidelines behind the scenes and only wearing them when the cameras were running.

manniot2 · 03-10-2020 09:12AM

PowerToWait wrote: »

You only have to have a cursory glance through the various threads on here to see how lax many people's attitudes have gotten. Not to mention the OUTRAGE

People are FED UP

Who cares about this virus it ONLY KILLS OLD PEOPLE

Football is a HUMAN RIGHT

The economy is doomed.

Fcuk these old people and their vulnerability give me my pint and premier league back now

Ya you are right, it’s pints and soccer people are worried about. Not cancer screenings, postponed surgeries, home health services ended, mental health services extinguished, education out the window, livelihoods in the toilet, future generations prospects diminished, life changing events cancelled, and the complete isolation of the previously well elderly.

Chicke · 03-10-2020 09:13AM

We are in a situation now where we are vulnerable like never before to the actions of others and the laziness/carelessness/arrogance/deliberate desire by one person to flout the rules becomes dangerous to us all

It is not like the lockdown where we were all cocooned. We have no choice now but to continue with our daily lives and go to work,kids to school etc

prunudo · 03-10-2020 09:20AM

polesheep wrote: »

More like the grey death. I might be starting to sound callous, but I'm bloody well fed up with the world being called to a halt just because a virus is knocking off people moments before they step through death's door. There are almost 8 billion people on this small planet, most of whom don't reach thirty years of age and here we are trying to prevent the 'early' death of people well past the age of eighty at the expense of the vast majority of the world's population... it's obscene and one day the world will look back on it all and wonder "What possessed them".

There, I said it. So come on, all you who are clinging to the life of your ancient relatives because you are in fear of your own mortality, and pile in on me. I don't give a fu*k.

Its certainly a discussion that needs to happen, because as life expectancy across the globe increase so will the overall population. I read a while back that it could reach 10bn by 2030. We can't keep getting older and older at the expense of people who come after us.
Quite simply the planet will not be able to sustain and provide for an ever increasing population. We may have to get used to mass deaths brought on by pandemics, natural disasters, starvation etc as mother nature will ultimately win over mankind.

Gruffalux · 03-10-2020 09:24AM

prunudo wrote: »

Its certainly a discussion that needs to happen, because as life expectancy across the globe increase so will the overall population. I read a while back that it could reach 10bn by 2030. We can't keep getting older and older at the expense of people who come after us.
Quite simply the planet will not be able to sustain and provide for an ever increasing population. We may have to get used to mass deaths brought on by pandemics, natural disasters, starvation etc as mother nature will ultimately win over mankind.

Mother nature says shag off with recruiting her as a trophy bride on behalf of team senicide.

ginoginelli · 03-10-2020 09:25AM

Chicke wrote: »

I went into the local petrol station yesterday to pay for petrol.3 people out of possibly 5/6 did not have a mask and all in a confined space ie small local petrol station. I would have liked to walk away but had to pay for petrol..I have been avoiding the bigger shopping centres to reduce risk but I have to buy petrol!! I dont know how people can be so cavelier and are effectively putring others in danger as we live in a very high case per 100k area.its incomprehensible that people not only are flouting the guudelines but are so careless about others lives

Some people are just really selfish and/or stupid. We need to be protected from them and they need to be protected from themselves.

Fining the shops for letting people in without masks would make a big difference. This would lead to instant wide spread enforcement.

100 euro fines on the spot, enforced vigorously, would also be a far bigger deterrent than a 2500 fine that never gets issued.

Icyseanfitz · 03-10-2020 09:28AM

speckle wrote: »

Definitely, something which should be discussed more. Are there links to the scientific people quoted?

The government has done the bare minimum as is, if they turn around and say educators, students and their families lives matter so little that no one even has to wear a mask I and many will just quit.

Chicke · 03-10-2020 09:29AM

Do any of the previous posters that think a pamdemic is a good way of eliminating overpopulation( bit like the nazis and the final solution for the jews except for now its the elderly) flount the rules, go to house parties, dont socially distance or wear masks?
Are they forcing their opinions potentially literally into the lives and health of others?

prunudo · 03-10-2020 09:30AM

Gruffalux wrote: »

Mother nature says shag off with recruiting her as a trophy bride on behalf of team senicide.

Mother nature doesn't give a **** about analogies or fancy terminology.

jopax · 03-10-2020 09:32AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As a point of information, Influenza is consistently disabling to all and sundry when it hits you, I genuinely don't believe you understand how the Influenza A/B viruses affect a person versus most other common contagious respiratory infections. It strikes suddenly and floors you. If it doesn't have that sort of onset it's improbable that it is actually an influenza virus. Even the most healthy will be physically floored by the shaking chills, bone pain, exhaustion, extreme dizziness, fever for at least several days. Most recover completely within a couple of weeks, but of course it can kill the vulnerable and elderly. It will inevitably cause you to be unable to work for at least some days.

I totally agree with you there. I think the people that don't understand it never actually had the flu before as there is no denying how bad it is.
It's hard to get out of bed nevermind work, it just doesn't happen.
I know middle aged people who have admitted that they never got the flu, so some people understand that it's just a bad head cold or virus whilst others insist it's the flu when it isn't.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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