Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

JDD · 02-10-2020 05:47PM

Benimar wrote: »

Ballpark we could have 250 of a backlog. I don’t think it is that high, but could certainly see a figure of 500+ today.

Hmm. Interesting.

I'm not saying that they do this, but if they do hold back on reporting a certain proportion of cases until days that they need particularly strong messages to come through, the double whammy of the North's numbers plus a record number of Republic cases could be seen to be tactically favourable.

Not sure why they'd do it particularly today though, unless they wanted to do an extra push on Donegal and Dublin to adhere to restrictions over the last weekend that it will make a difference, before they have to make a decision next Thursday on extending/expanding the Level 3s.

Again, I'm not categorically saying that is what they do. I just always get a gut feeling that there's more than just process involved when numbers are announced.

titan18 · 02-10-2020 05:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It spreads presymptomatically, like Covid. There's no such thing as experiencing a "touch of flu", it's most commonly diagnosed as a community illness by its symptomatology. It is *nothing* like a common cold as most people, who have rarely actually had a dose of it, seem to imagine. Too often have I heard people declare nonsense such as "I had the flu last month, now I have it again, last year I got it four times". I'm sure if enough were actually tested there is indeed sub clinical illness that never progresses, but if you do get symptoms, you get well and truly whacked. NK doctor will clinically diagnose a common viral bronchitis as a flu if the patient remains functioning throughout.

Yup, I had the flu proper once. I was out of work for close to 2 weeks and ended up losing nearly 2 stone in weight. It was not a fun experience

Jim_Hodge · 02-10-2020 05:48PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Assuming most are from back dated tests

Not according to BBC Northern Ireland.

JP Liz V1 · 02-10-2020 05:49PM

470 new cases

fritzelly · 02-10-2020 05:49PM

and one death

Benimar · 02-10-2020 05:49PM

470 cases, 1 death

Turtwig · 02-10-2020 05:50PM

polesheep wrote: »

Does it signal a change in thinking? I hope so.

Unlikely. I can recall statements from the CMO as far back as March where did they said case numbers aren't the be all and end all. Even Ronan Glynn has stated this in numerous Pressers. Case numbers are but one metric. Bit like using temperature to describe the weather. Nobody thinks it's the sole metric.

Leo is just playing the agreeable politican game.

stephenjmcd · 02-10-2020 05:51PM

470 cases, 1 death.

6 deaths denotified along with 4 cases also

What Username Guidelines · 02-10-2020 05:51PM

198 in Dublin
61 in Cork
36 in Donegal
19 in Kildare
19 in Limerick
12 in Kerry
11 in Galway
11 in Meath
10 in Roscommon
9 in Cavan
9 in Clare
9 in Kilkenny
9 in Longford
9 in Offaly
9 in Westmeath
8 in Louth
7 in Tipperary
7 in Wexford

Remaining 17 in 7 counties

bazermc · 02-10-2020 05:51PM

470 new cases today

stephenjmcd · 02-10-2020 05:52PM

198 Dublin, 61 in Cork, 36 in Donegal, 19 in Kildare, 19 in Limerick, 12 in Kerry, 11 in Galway, 11 in Meath, 10 in Roscommon, 9 in Cavan, 9 in Clare, 9 in Kilkenny, 9 in Longford, 9 in Offaly, 9 in Westmeath, 8 in Louth, 7 in Tipperary, 7 in Wexford, remaining 17 in 7 counties

JDD · 02-10-2020 05:53PM

I had "proper flu" too when I was 8. Really knocked me for six. But I was so sick my mum took me to the doctor, who diagnosed flu from the symptoms.

Are we saying that if you are infected with influenza you absolutely couldn't get a mild dose? Like, one that isn't awful enough for you to have to go to the doctor and therefore there would never be an official diagnosis?

Or does everyone who is infected with it get bed-ridden for a few days? I mean, I'm not a scientist - and sure everyone's an armchair epidemiologist these days - but wouldn't it depend on viral load and how run down you were and other illnesses you might have and all of that? Or maybe influenza is entirely different and everyone gets a baseline level of sick?

polesheep · 02-10-2020 05:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It spreads presymptomatically, like Covid. There's no such thing as experiencing a "touch of flu", it's most commonly diagnosed as a community illness by its symptomatology. It is *nothing* like a common cold as most people, who have rarely actually had a dose of it, seem to imagine. Too often have I heard people declare nonsense such as "I had the flu last month, now I have it again, last year I got it four times". I'm sure if enough were actually tested there is indeed sub clinical illness that never progresses, but if you do get symptoms, you get well and truly whacked. NK doctor will clinically diagnose a common viral bronchitis as a flu if the patient remains functioning throughout.

Yes, but that's not the same thing you said in the previous post. I'm not getting at you, I was of the same opinion myself until recently when an immunologist put me right. It just knocks on the head the common line, "Believe me, you'll know if you have the flu." The fact is, you may not know.

blowitupref · 02-10-2020 05:55PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

470 cases, 1 death.

6 deaths denotified along with 4 cases also

Case wise is not good when you consider with 2 days to go it's now 10 cases more than last weeks total of 2084.

Nqp15hhu · 02-10-2020 05:55PM

kingshankly wrote: »

South armagh gaa club winning a championship after celebrating well excess of 100 cases followed ðŸ™ˆðŸ™ˆ

Won’t account for most of the cases in Northern Ireland. It is caused by schools returning.

polesheep · 02-10-2020 05:56PM

JDD wrote: »

I had "proper flu" too when I was 8. Really knocked me for six. But I was so sick my mum took me to the doctor, who diagnosed flu from the symptoms.

Are we saying that if you are infected with influenza you absolutely couldn't get a mild dose? Like, one that isn't awful enough for you to have to go to the doctor and therefore there would never be an official diagnosis?

Or does everyone who is infected with it get bed-ridden for a few days? I mean, I'm not a scientist - and sure everyone's an armchair epidemiologist these days - but wouldn't it depend on viral load and how run down you were and other illnesses you might have and all of that? Or maybe influenza is entirely different and everyone gets a baseline level of sick?

There's good information in the nhs link I posted and lots more besides.

jackboy · 02-10-2020 05:56PM

JDD wrote: »

I had "proper flu" too when I was 8. Really knocked me for six. But I was so sick my mum took me to the doctor, who diagnosed flu from the symptoms.

Are we saying that if you are infected with influenza you absolutely couldn't get a mild dose? Like, one that isn't awful enough for you to have to go to the doctor and therefore there would never be an official diagnosis?

Or does everyone who is infected with it get bed-ridden for a few days? I mean, I'm not a scientist - and sure everyone's an armchair epidemiologist these days - but wouldn't it depend on viral load and how run down you were and other illnesses you might have and all of that? Or maybe influenza is entirely different and everyone gets a baseline level of sick?

No, for lots of people the flu is no worse than a cold. Loads of people keep going to work when they have the flu. For some people of course is it severe.

Goldrickssan · 02-10-2020 05:58PM

Would Dublin ever feck off

Coolfresian · 02-10-2020 05:59PM

Dr Ronan Glynn 'The situation nationally is now a matter of serious concern'

Did I hear right that positivity rate is as high as 11% in some counties?

That's shocking if true

bb1234567 · 02-10-2020 05:59PM

Blondini wrote: »

So nearly 500,000 cases in Ireland!

Mad if true.

I cant see because of paywall but did it give an estimate of 500,000 in Ireland?

is_that_so · 02-10-2020 06:00PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

198 in Dublin
61 in Cork
36 in Donegal
19 in Kildare
19 in Limerick
12 in Kerry
11 in Galway
11 in Meath
10 in Roscommon
9 in Cavan
9 in Clare
9 in Kilkenny
9 in Longford
9 in Offaly
9 in Westmeath
8 in Louth
7 in Tipperary
7 in Wexford

Remaining 17 in 7 counties

It's the same main three counties that remain of concern in terms of rising cases. Other parts of the country look to have stabilised or eased.

petes · 02-10-2020 06:01PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

I cant see because of paywall but did it give an estimate of 500,000 in Ireland?

Probably just took the 10% and applied it to our population!

polesheep · 02-10-2020 06:02PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

470 cases, 1 death.

6 deaths denotified along with 4 cases also

Betcha six deaths denotified won't have the same effect as six deaths announced.

Gael23 · 02-10-2020 06:02PM

No sign of MM locking down Cork. Can’t upset the parish I suppose

Blondini · 02-10-2020 06:02PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

I cant see because of paywall but did it give an estimate of 500,000 in Ireland?

No, just took 10% of our population as a rough guide...

TexasTornado · 02-10-2020 06:03PM

This is only going one way. People need to start getting real.

Harry Palmr · 02-10-2020 06:03PM

You'll be pleased to know 6.1 news just said with Covid 19 not of.

manniot2 · 02-10-2020 06:04PM

Some deaths denotified today. Hopefully the coroner stays busy and we might get an accurate death rate at some stage.

Ohmeha · 02-10-2020 06:04PM

Dublin is just not slowing down anywhere near enough to prevent extension of Level 3 next week, weekly cases still up 14.55% versus 54.06% for the rest of the country

Oranage2 · 02-10-2020 06:04PM

You can't have the schools open and restrictions, it just doesn't work.

The government need a new game plan and quick, the 5 step framework is having little to no affect.

Telling us the next 10 days are critical and we need to cut our contacts is like telling a smoker that cigarettes are bad, basically pointless.

Every single step this government has taking to tackle covid has been a shambles.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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