Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

flasher0030 wrote: »

Sorry. I cannot take this in at all. You cannot start altering the GAA rule book for various levels of assault on an official. Pushing, assaulting, hitting notebook out of hands, throwing water at, kicking the ball at officials is a complete no no in the game. And can not be tolerated at any level, and should be punished accordingly i.e. 12 week bans etc.
You say that if they had caused serious damage to an official, then a 3 month suspension is warrented. What the hell???:eek::eek: If a player causes serious damage to an official, then they could be looking at prison, or at least some form of custodial sentence. Jesus, I wouldn't mind getting you as a judge if I bet someone to a pulp. "Well, ya, beating the head of someone doesn't bode well. But at least you didn't kill him. We'll give you 1 weeks community service".

blanch152 wrote:

There is no consideration required. Cillian O'Connor is one of the sneakiest dirtiest players currently playing. Off-the-ball sly underhand fouling is his calling card. Been caught for it once or twice, but mostly gets away scot free. Some of it may be down to petulance and being a sore loser, but no sympathy from me.

Bonniedog wrote: »

Would have been on senior team beyond a doubt. Was one of the best players on the under 21s that were beaten by Galway in 2007 final. Well beaten but a really good Galway side that had Canning, Lee and others.

castletownman wrote: »

As a complete outsider, would I be wrong in rating Flynn, Kilkenny, McCarthy and McCaffrey as more consistent game-changers than Connolly from this era? I made the point to a fella earlier that the one year they didn't win the AI under Gavin was the year Kilkenny was down dabbling in AFL. Same fella also made the point that Connolly generally came out second-best vs Keegan in terms of an one-on-one battle, whereas Con landed Lee on his arse last year scoring two goals off him

I think some of the plaudits were a bit over the top too. People saying he was the best player of all-time. Wasn't even the best player of his generation (not even within the Dublin camp). He probably had the highest ceiling in terms of raw talent, but the best players marry that with all the other faucets of the game. Okay, Dermo worked like a divil (probably more than any player of his talents), but his discipline was questionable, as was his commitment to the jersey.

EDIT: Kilkenny was actually out with a cruciate in 2014

muddle84 wrote: »

I think the difference between those players is they don't step out of line. They play the low percentage shots, they play the safe pass. Not to belittle them, they're amazing ballers. Connolly always had the confidence and attitude to say **** it im gonna plonk it on his chest on the run or **** it I'm gonna score from here. Perfect example is in the 2016 drawn final where he missed the sideline shot, then again last year he goes for an amazing pass to Kilkenny but pulls it off!

thesultan wrote: »

In terms of importanvce to the Dubs players who are the most important?

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Good question actually. I could see why Jim Gavin picked Connolly over Bernard because Connolly offers an x factor. However, he could also be a very frustrating player at times ill discipline or taking on mad shots. Such shots are great when they work, but seem very wasteful when they don't.

On the other hand he could have quiet games like when he only scored one point (a free) for Vincents v Rathnew of Wicklow (2017) and they lost!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/rathnew-shock-st-vincents-with-upset-win-in-leinster-senior-club-football-championship-36312159.html#:~:text=Vincent's%20with%20upset%20win%20in%20Leinster%20Senior%20Club%20Football%20Championship,-Rathnew%201&text=RATHNEW%20caused%20a%20sensation%20today,%2D13%20to%201%2D9.&text=Right%20up%20until%20Stafford's%20goal,one%2Dhanded%20fetch%2C%20St.

Personally I prefer the under-valued consistent type player that would go through a wall. But is not flashy - like Shane Ryan!

In saying that though, Connolly is the only fella I can think of at club level were seasoned Dub supporters are both starting laughing and clapping at same time. After Connolly hits a point from way out in Parnell Park with the outside of the foot with ease, for example. And people are shaking thier heads saying great score. Could happen a few times in a game! He always seemed to have had time on the ball and played with the head up.

I suppose Connolly was the first generation after Alan Brogan who a real footballer. Dublin lacked them for years. I think any fella who is integral to his club winning an AI club (2008) when he was just 18 deserves to at least be in the discussion of the Dublin greats.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/st-vincent-s-weather-late-nemo-storm-1.904401

Would he make it into the top six Dublin forwards of all time?

Example off the top of my head all time modern Dublin football front six:

Alan Brogan- Ciaran Kilkenny - Paul Flynn
Vinnie Murphy - Kevin Heffernan - Dean Rock

(I hope I didn't start an argument!)

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However, I think Connolly would make a great first sub against tired legs!

seligehgit wrote: »

I'd see your Rock and Cooper ( wonderful footballers that they are ) and raise you a Mc Carthy and Kilkenny.

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Enjoyed that clip but sweet Jesus it was only watched and not listened too.
Great player....terrible music

Slattsy wrote: »

Looks like a soccerball Top, Chelsea. Don't like it.