Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

TonyMaloney · 02-10-2020 02:19PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

15.5% positivity rate for NI.

That's horrifying.

we may need to close the border, as best we can

seamus · 02-10-2020 02:21PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1312016064176435202?s=19

Crazy

Goes to show how quickly things can start to get out of control once you hit a particular critical mass.

What are the hospital numbers up there?

Also goes to show that what we do down here has a bit of a limited impact if NI is on fire.

gmisk · 02-10-2020 02:21PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1312016064176435202?s=19

Crazy

Fecking hell that is an insane number

Plumbthedepths · 02-10-2020 02:21PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

That's horrifying.

we may need to close the border, as best we can

Close what?.

stephenjmcd · 02-10-2020 02:21PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

WTF :eek: Those close the border shouts don't seem that crazy after all tbh.

What border ? The invisible one ?

MerlinSouthDub · 02-10-2020 02:22PM

Dashboard seems to have updated early today. 458 positive swabs, 12673 tests. 3.6% positivity rate.

gmisk · 02-10-2020 02:22PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

15.5% positivity rate for NI.

What is it usually in ROI? 2 percent roughly?!

fritzelly · 02-10-2020 02:22PM

We only got figures like that due to the German backlog

Have they just given up up there

gmisk · 02-10-2020 02:23PM

I blame Sammy Wilson

Undertow · 02-10-2020 02:24PM

gmisk wrote: »

What is it usually in ROI? 2 percent roughly?!

3.2% at the moment

MerlinSouthDub · 02-10-2020 02:24PM

fritzelly wrote: »

We only got figures like that due to the German backlog

Have they just given up up there

That's what happens when you have Sinn Fein involved in government - all talk, no action I'm afraid.

bb1234567 · 02-10-2020 02:25PM

Northern Ireland probably highest number of cases per capita in the world today I'd say

stephenjmcd · 02-10-2020 02:25PM

seamus wrote: »

Goes to show how quickly things can start to get out of control once you hit a particular critical mass.

What are the hospital numbers up there?

Also goes to show that what we do down here has a bit of a limited impact if NI is on fire.

75 in hospital with 9 in ICU in NI

odyssey06 · 02-10-2020 02:25PM

polesheep wrote: »

How can you ever do it if you don't try? What do you think will happen if in twelve month's time or less we don't have a vaccine? The priority will suddenly be to protect the vulnerable so that society and the economy can go back to as normal as possible. There will be no choice about that. So why not prepare for that possible outcome? I hope we get a safe vaccine that puts all this to bed, but if we don't there will be an awful lot of people asking why we are not prepared for the situation in which we find ourselves.

What makes you think they haven't looked at it?
And still concluded, how can you protect the vulnerable if it is rampant?
Do we even know enough to quantify who the vulnerable are?
And does it include all front line staff, teachers, those involved in nursing home, SNA, home helps... because they would have to be part of that bubble.

If there are practicable ways to increase protection for the vulnerable without restrictions, while keeping schools open... please share.

But at the moment when I hear it, it's just a slogan with no follow-on, and in some cases code for "open the pubs, end all restrictions and let the vulnerable fend for themselves." They don't explain how the vulnerable can protect themselves effectively in such circumstances.

Kermit.de.frog · 02-10-2020 02:26PM

Yesterday, First Minister Arlene Foster said any new period of full lockdown in Northern Ireland should only happen as part of a co-ordinated move across the UK

So basically they'll do whatever England and Scotland are doing to prove their Britishness because priorities...

Eod100 · 02-10-2020 02:26PM

That's fairly bad

JP Liz V1 · 02-10-2020 02:26PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Dashboard seems to have updated early today. 458 positive swabs, 12673 tests. 3.6% positivity rate.

Over 400 cases again for ROI today so

TonyMaloney · 02-10-2020 02:26PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Close what?.

The roads.

We're not talking about trying to close the border off entirely as though we were trying to stop a shipment of arms.

It's about mitigation. The traffic alone would put off most people from attempting it.

That all said, it was just an initial thought. I'm not advocating it.

Non solum non ambulabit · 02-10-2020 02:27PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1312016064176435202?s=19

Crazy

Kermit missed the big story close to home as he trawled the world looking for bad news

Nqp15hhu · 02-10-2020 02:27PM

Northern Ireland had low cases until they opened the schools..they need to shut the schools again.

bb1234567 · 02-10-2020 02:28PM

seamus wrote: »

Goes to show how quickly things can start to get out of control once you hit a particular critical mass.

What are the hospital numbers up there?

Also goes to show that what we do down here has a bit of a limited impact if NI is on fire.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1002/1168952-covid-northern-ireland/

Hospital and ICU admissions in NI doubling every 9 days

Eod100 · 02-10-2020 02:28PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Median age of death from covid last month was 90.

Life expectancy is 82.

Covid is just another thing that unfortunately kills mostly old people, like pneumonia etc.

That's the truth that not one politician will come out and say.

No because that ignores the long term effects it can have on you and healthy people without underlying conditions too. https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1311916323669041152?s=19

02-10-2020 02:28PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1312016064176435202?s=19

Crazy

**** just got real. From talking to colleagues in NI, the ICUs are under significant strain in NI at the moment. A lot of people are going to die due to lack of ability to escalate to ICU over the winter. Would not like to be prone to life threatening asthma attacks. Chances of survival are very low if no access to ICU bed.

Plumbthedepths · 02-10-2020 02:28PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

The roads.

We're not talking about trying to close the border off entirely as though we were trying to stop a shipment of arms.

It's about mitigation. The traffic alone would put off most people from attempting it.

That all said, it was just an initial thought. I'm not advocating it.

The roads? The BA tried that and it didn't work.

eagle eye · 02-10-2020 02:28PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote:

That's what happens when you have Sinn Fein involved in government - all talk, no action I'm afraid.

Please go away with your political agenda.
And that's from somebody who does not like Sinn Fein or any of the other parties either tbh.

bennyl10 · 02-10-2020 02:28PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Over 400 cases again for ROI today so

compared to the north that's a wonderful number

Happydays2020 · 02-10-2020 02:29PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

The roads.

We're not talking about trying to close the border off entirely as though we were trying to stop a shipment of arms.

It's about mitigation. The traffic alone would put off most people from attempting it.

That all said, it was just an initial thought. I'm not advocating it.

Put up a wall. Brexit solved also. And then we can take it down again if they vote yes in a border poll.

polesheep · 02-10-2020 02:31PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

What makes you think they haven't looked at it?
And still concluded, how can you protect the vulnerable if it is rampant?
Do we even know enough to quantify who the vulnerable are?
And does it include all front line staff, teachers, those involved in nursing home, SNA, home helps... because they would have to be part of that bubble.

If there are practicable ways to increase protection for the vulnerable without restrictions, while keeping schools open... please share.

But at the moment when I hear it, it's just a slogan with no follow-on, and in some cases code for "open the pubs, end all restrictions and let the vulnerable fend for themselves." They don't explain how the vulnerable can protect themselves effectively in such circumstances.

We'll talk again if there is no vaccine.

MerlinSouthDub · 02-10-2020 02:31PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

There is no physical border between ROI and NI. Nothing to close.

Would building a wall be out of the question?

is_that_so · 02-10-2020 02:32PM

polesheep wrote: »

No, I want them to stop using daily case figures to put fear into people. I said nothing about transparency.

You can't be afraid of them if you don't pay attention to them but it's not as if they can be hidden away, they are reported. I guess that brings us back to how the data is reported. Personally favour the 7 or 14 day and cases per 100K, with the daily numbers as a BTW.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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