Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

PhilipsR · 01-10-2020 10:17AM

I also find it hard to believe that one student gave his whole class it also. 26 people seems crazy that they would all catch it. Find it hard to believe.

Funsterdelux · 01-10-2020 10:23AM

PhilipsR wrote: »

I also find it hard to believe that one student gave his whole class it also. 26 people seems crazy that they would all catch it. Find it hard to believe.

It was a class of 26, 15 of them got it. Thats nearly 60% of the class.

Boggles · 01-10-2020 10:26AM

They all touched the same vending machine.

Funsterdelux · 01-10-2020 10:36AM

Boggles wrote: »

They all touched the same vending machine.

True, those that choose B4 (kitkat) tested positive. Where as the 11 students that choose c3(twix) tested negative.

(it is alleged that all 15 picked their nose while eating said kitkat)

hetuzozaho · 01-10-2020 10:38AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

True, those that choose B4 (kitkat) tested positive. Where as the 11 students that choose c3(twix) tested negative.

Damn it. That could have been me. I'm a kit-kat kinda guy! :eek:

jd · 01-10-2020 10:39AM

US2 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1310969615821008896?s=19

Look at Andre Flood's reply to that tweet.

Russman · 01-10-2020 10:41AM

PhilipsR wrote: »

The government has lost the public's confidence. This has happened through complete inability to lead the country with any sort of cohesive plan when coming out of the lockdown, no joined up thinking. All that lockdown in March for no reason.

1. No attempt to increase ICU capacity (surely that's step number 1 of living with Covid?!).
2. Didn't original contact tracers go back to their day job for a while rather than being ready to go when cases inevitably went up in June? So that caused delays.
3. The fact they are only now looking at clusters with the example of how 2 people then caused 30 cases is good, but it's 3 months too late! The horse has bolted and there's too many cases to effectively do it country wide.

No point in pointing fingers at anyone other than those in the Dail, they've failed to lead. It's as simple as that.

I'd agree with a lot of those points, but would also add (not that you're insinuating it), just because the govt have been a bit haphazard in recent months, doesn't mean joe bloggs should ignore the basic health advice. I'm sure Glynn has a pain in his face saying the basics over and over. Its like people want a new message when there isn't one.

Non solum non ambulabit · 01-10-2020 10:47AM

jd wrote: »

Look at Andre Flood's reply to that tweet.

I thought PCR tests will always pick up the virus if it is present? The problem is that it is so sensitive it picks up remnants of an old infection.

Is the false negative purely down to testing a person too early?

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/sta...821008896?s=19

caveat emptor · 01-10-2020 10:56AM

Public health doctor there. Great that more information being. Released regarding spread. Happy we’ve moved on from “ there is no evidence it spreads in pubs/restaurants/schools etc”

That was a great statement because it was true but ignored the fact that we weren’t given the evidence on purpose as it might make people worry.

Would have been nice to see in April / may even June.

Also great to see Stephen Donnelly giving them consulting status. Joke that we never did. My god do we need public health doctors now.

https://twitter.com/marietcasey/status/1311602795976577024?s=21

mandrake04 · 01-10-2020 11:06AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

I thought PCR tests will always pick up the virus if it is present? The problem is that it is so sensitive it picks up remnants of an old infection.

Is the false negative purely down to testing a person too early?

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/sta...821008896?s=19

False Negative are common, mostly down to mis-sampling. This could be the collector didn't swab properly or there was no virus present at the test site (testing too early).

False positive is usually down to contamination in preanalytical process.. ie in the Lab. Its far less common.

Funsterdelux · 01-10-2020 11:10AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Public health doctor there. Great that more information being. Released regarding spread. Happy we’ve moved on from “ there is no evidence it spreads in pubs/restaurants/schools etc”

That was a great statement because it was true but ignored the fact that we weren’t given the evidence on purpose as it might make people worry.

Would have been nice to see in April / may even June.

Also great to see Stephen Donnelly giving them consulting status. Joke that we never did. My god do we need public health doctors now.

https://twitter.com/marietcasey/status/1311602795976577024?s=21

Sorry, but its been made quite clear to me, on these forums that communions arent leading to clusters. She must be mistaken

Stormyteacup · 01-10-2020 11:13AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Public health doctor there. Great that more information being. Released regarding spread. Happy we’ve moved on from “ there is no evidence it spreads in pubs/restaurants/schools etc”

That was a great statement because it was true but ignored the fact that we weren’t given the evidence on purpose as it might make people worry.

Would have been nice to see in April / may even June.

Also great to see Stephen Donnelly giving them consulting status. Joke that we never did. My god do we need public health doctors now.

https://twitter.com/marietcasey/status/1311602795976577024?s=21

No we don’t need any more doctors consulting with the government.

We can spend the next few years picking apart how Covid spreads, how sensitive PCR tests are, how many hospital admissions are there solely because of Covid symptoms, researching which underlying conditions pose most risk, developing quicker tests and better treatments.

All can be done alongside letting low risk population back to work, travel and resume even a semblance of normal social interaction.

And finally admitting to Ireland that they scared the s**t out of a lot of people without good enough reason.

TexasTornado · 01-10-2020 11:15AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Public health doctor there. Great that more information being. Released regarding spread. Happy we’ve moved on from “ there is no evidence it spreads in pubs/restaurants/schools etc”

That was a great statement because it was true but ignored the fact that we weren’t given the evidence on purpose as it might make people worry.

Would have been nice to see in April / may even June.

Also great to see Stephen Donnelly giving them consulting status. Joke that we never did. My god do we need public health doctors now.

https://twitter.com/marietcasey/status/1311602795976577024?s=21

Can't be surely. Boards.ie doctors know better :rolleyes:

Boggles · 01-10-2020 11:20AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

False Negative are common, mostly down to mis-sampling. This could be the collector didn't swab properly or there was no virus present at the test site (testing too early).

False positive is usually down to contamination in preanalytical process.. ie in the Lab. Its far less common.

They badly need to replace that clown as chair of the committee.

owlbethere · 01-10-2020 11:20AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Interesting thread on a choir superseeding event. (Aerosol transmission)

https://mobile.twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1306450428867964930

FAQ on Aerosol transmission

FAQ

I didn't want to believe in aerosol/airborne transmissions but after yesterdays news, I think it's very real.

NHPET highlighted a case where people got infected with the virus in a restaurant from people at a nearby table. I don't understand why NHPET won't release other information about this case. They showed us a slide of an infectious couple and explained transmissions from there.

Either that couple went out displaying symptoms and coughing and expelling infectious body fluids to others to become infected. If this is the case, why isn't our government acting to do more about people breaking isolation guidelines? It's making a mockery of the track, trace and isolate system that we are relying on to keep us as safe as possible. If the couple were not displaying symptoms of the virus, it's clearly airborne.

Graces7 · 01-10-2020 11:21AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Sorry, but its been made quite clear to me, on these forums that communions arent leading to clusters. She must be mistaken

It was clearly stated on news re the Donegal clusters that communions WERE to blame..How could it be else?

Funsterdelux · 01-10-2020 11:23AM

Graces7 wrote: »

It was clearly stated on news re the Donegal clusters that communions WERE to blame..How could it be else?

Oh I know. I was taking the mick.

bb1234567 · 01-10-2020 11:25AM

Healthcare must be stretched to the limit in Israel at the moment if it not already passing capacity, 810 in ICU in a country of just 9 million. That's a shocking number of ICU admissions in a country that size

jd · 01-10-2020 11:40AM

Boggles wrote: »

They badly need to replace that clown as chair of the committee.

That Dail Committee has finished up. McNamara got his videos up on SM, spiels where the NPHET guys weren't given time to reply.

marno21 · 01-10-2020 11:53AM

Tony Holohan to return to his post next week according to the IT

Cyrus · 01-10-2020 11:54AM

why when news outlets report on people in their 30s getting Covid and getting very ill with it, do they ignore the fact that the person was clinically obese and let them make statements like, i had no underlying illnesses.

im glad this chap is on the mend, but they say he lost over 2 stone, and he doesnt look underweight now, and the pics of him in hospital clearly suggest he was very overweight.

is there some issue with reporting obesity as a major risk factor?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0930/1168340-covid-19/

caveat emptor · 01-10-2020 11:54AM

Dr Tony coming back.

https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1311619960628801538?s=20

Gael23 · 01-10-2020 11:56AM

Holohan returning shortly.
Bring on level 5 for the whole country

Blondini · 01-10-2020 11:58AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Dr Tony coming back.

https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1311619960628801538?s=20

I hope his wife is doing okay given the circumstances.

blade1 · 01-10-2020 11:59AM

Gael23 wrote: »

Holohan returning shortly.
Bring on level 5 for the whole country

Levels are more down to communities than whoever is in charge imo.

bb1234567 · 01-10-2020 11:59AM

Cyrus wrote: »

why when news outlets report on people in their 30s getting Covid and getting very ill with it, do they ignore the fact that the person was clinically obese and let them make statements like, i had no underlying illnesses.

im glad this chap is on the mend, but they say he lost over 2 stone, and he doesnt look underweight now, and the pics of him in hospital clearly suggest he was very overweight.

is there some issue with reporting obesity as a major risk factor?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0930/1168340-covid-19/

Story immediately below that
''You might not die from this but do you essentially want six months of your life robbed''
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1001/1168695-covid19-recovery/
Seems like seriously unethical journalism for RTE to lead with an article title of that nature . Pretty disgraceful I must say, some people are really scared of this virus, the ones who have no regard for public health or restrictions are never going to have their minds changed by a media article, so I don't think any further terrorising of the population at large is necessary

A much more balanced approach would be a title like 'Young woman's story urges others to heed caution and avoid infection ,COVID complications although rare do occur in the young aswell'. Still gets point across the same without what is unequivocally scare mongering

Gael23 · 01-10-2020 12:00PM

blade1 wrote: »

Levels are more down to communities than whoever is in charge imo.

As the article says he is an advocate of tough restrictions

sideswipe · 01-10-2020 12:00PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Holohan returning shortly.
Bring on level 5 for the whole country

Lock up you daughters.........and sons.......in fact lock up all young people!

Gael23 · 01-10-2020 12:01PM

sideswipe wrote: »

Lock up you daughters.........and sons.......in fact lock up all young people!

He will too

Eod100 · 01-10-2020 12:03PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Holohan returning shortly.
Bring on level 5 for the whole country

Hardly. Bit of perspective needed here.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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