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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I don't see how you can have an ideology without a group of people who identity with said ideology.

    It's like saying 'Antifa are just an idea in your mind. It doesn't really exist in reality'. :rolleyes:

    That’s what the FBI Director, who Trump appointed, said.

    Biden was quoting him. He made that very clear at the start of his sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,047 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    A bit like Melania with Trump? There's a 34 year difference there. Does this relationship disgust you also?
    It'd be pretty low on the list of things that disgust me about Trump.
    You do realise that it's ok not to like Trump and some democrats?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It'd be pretty low on the list of things that disgust me about Trump.
    You do realise that it's ok not to like Trump and some democrats?
    most on here dont get it.


    they think if you call biden boring, you must therefore be a trump supporter.


    The fact you may think both parties are war mongers with dismal candidates is lost on some


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    most on here dont get it.


    they think if you call biden boring, you must therefore be a trump supporter.


    The fact you may think both parties are war mongers with dismal candidates is lost on some

    Ah theres miles of difference between calling him "boring" and what a lot of one liners here actually suggest about Biden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Nice turn out in Minnesota tonight.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Watched most of the debate last night. Apart from the usual points that are being talked about I thought Trump really lost it when Biden brought up Putin and said something like he was Putin's puppet. Would love to see his reaction to that again

    Biden was so poor though, anybody with half a brain could have torn trump to shreds on the things he was coming out with. Would love to see AOC up there


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    you are contradicting yourself when you say there is no demand for free health care.


    did you not only on this thread on this page declare 100 million yanks with underlying conditions.


    Are you trying to tell me those 100 million would rather pay than get it for free ?

    If you look at how they vote, yes. Bernie has run for President twice on a “Medicare for all” platform and failed twice.

    It’s a bizarre phenomenon in the US, but people rarely vote for the collective good.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    osarusan wrote: »
    A fair few clips there of Trump denouncing these kinds of groups.

    But how do we explain his 'and stand by' comments?

    "Stand by" means hold and wait for further instuction. Always has. Why is he telling such a group to await further instruction?

    I reckon he just said the wrong thing with his mouth going faster than his brain as usual. It's not a master plan

    An idiotic comment but one he won't row back on.

    "stand down and er stand er by".

    Its typical of his speak first, think later style


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Nice turn out in Minnesota tonight.

    *Cough*


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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,566 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Brian? wrote: »

    It’s a bizarre phenomenon in the US, but people rarely vote for the collective good.

    Its not bizarre at all that the ultimate capitalist economy in the world doesn't vote for socialist ideas.

    Capitalism and the individual is what the country is built upon


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eagle eye wrote: »
    And would it be a wild theory to suggest she slept her way to a couple of promotions?

    I would say it is tbh, Harris has shown herself to be highly capable throughout her career. So I would say it's more likely that she reached the positions she reached via hard work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,047 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I would say it is tbh, Harris has shown herself to be highly capable throughout her career. So I would say it's more likely that she reached the positions she reached via hard work.
    So sleeping with her boss, 32 years her senior, is a normal thing for an ambitious young woman?


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eagle eye wrote: »
    So sleeping with her boss, 32 years her senior, is a normal thing for an ambitious young woman?

    Some people have relationships with people older them. It's not a new phenomenon and she made no secret of the relationship. So I'm inclined to say it's more likely that it was a genuine relationship. Also the very fact she progressed so far beyond him in her career indicates that it's far more likely she progressed in her career as she did as a result of hard work.

    Also, frankly it's coming across as a tad sexist the angle you're pursuing. You've brought it up more than once in the past. You've attempted to represent it as an "affair" when it wasn't. The reality is most people view her as a highly accomplished politician and who she was in a relationship with back in the nineties is irrelevant. You haven't established a pattern, you've shown a single public relationship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    eagle eye wrote: »
    So sleeping with her boss, 32 years her senior, is a normal thing for an ambitious young woman?

    Do you tell all women how they should and shouldn’t behave?
    Or who they should date?

    Seeing as you’re so concerned about an affair that never happened, what do you think about Trump cheating on all 3 wives?
    Actual affairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Seeing as you’re so concerned about an affair that never happened, what do you think about Trump cheating on all 3 wives? Actual affairs.


    Yea but they would have been the greatest affairs ever, there's a big difference!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    I reckon he just said the wrong thing with his mouth going faster than his brain as usual. It's not a master plan

    An idiotic comment but one he won't row back on.

    "stand down and er stand er by".

    Its typical of his speak first, think later style
    'If he mispoke, I think he should correct it, if he doesn't correct it I guess he didn't mispeak' - Tim Scott Rep SouthC

    I don't believe he has corrected himself yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    duploelabs wrote: »
    'If he mispoke, I think he should correct it, if he doesn't correct it I guess he didn't mispeak' - Tim Scott Rep SouthC

    I don't believe he has corrected himself yet

    Cos he's a "proud man"

    Never admitted a mistake before, can't see him starting now


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cos he's a "proud man"

    Never admitted a mistake before, can't see him starting now

    He doesn't even have to admit a mistake, he could just clearly denounce white supremacists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,118 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    He doesn't even have to admit a mistake, he could just clearly denounce white supremacists.

    He often has.


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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,566 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Danzy wrote: »
    He often has.

    “White supremacy should be denounced at every turn. I think the president misspoke, and he needs to correct it,” Scott told reporters.

    Tim Scott. Republican senator.

    Trump should have denounced white supremists when challenged.

    The fact he didn't speaks volumes about him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭francois


    eagle eye wrote: »
    So sleeping with her boss, 32 years her senior, is a normal thing for an ambitious young woman?

    Desperate over-reach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Cos he's a "proud man"

    Never admitted a mistake before, can't see him starting now

    Never admitting a mistake is a character trait that's one to be proud of?? Seriously?

    Still hasn't corrected himself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    eagle eye wrote: »
    So sleeping with her boss, 32 years her senior, is a normal thing for an ambitious young woman?

    Perfectly fine for anyone of any gender to do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    duploelabs wrote:
    Never admitting a mistake is a character trait that's one to be proud of?? Seriously?


    Common with narrcacissts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Common with narrcacissts

    No narcissist, no narcissist, you're the narcissist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,047 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Some people have relationships with people older them. It's not a new phenomenon and she made no secret of the relationship. So I'm inclined to say it's more likely that it was a genuine relationship. Also the very fact she progressed so far beyond him in her career indicates that it's far more likely she progressed in her career as she did as a result of hard work.
    Also, frankly it's coming across as a tad sexist the angle you're pursuing. You've brought it up more than once in the past. You've attempted to represent it as an "affair" when it wasn't. The reality is most people view her as a highly accomplished politician and who she was in a relationship with back in the nineties is irrelevant. You haven't established a pattern, you've shown a single public relationship.
    Do you agree that she has shown herself as pretty ruthless throughout her career to get to where she is now? It's the case with most people who get there.
    If you think a good looking young(28) woman who would have had many admirers ending up sleeping with her 60 boss is normal then I suggest you really don't know very much about the world.
    Your sexist comment is ridiculous given the age gap and the position held by Brown.
    A couple of months ago I found it shocking that people were coming on here with no information and posting links from agenda driven democrat supporters who were adamant that Tara Meade was lying despite not having any information about the alleged incident.
    I never too sides on that as there are only two people who really know what, if anything, happened.
    Did you come on here calling those guys sexist? I don't remember you saying it to any of them.

    Look, it's just simply a thing here that has a look about it. When you are a public figure you can expect that to be looked at. It's not sexist to be suspicious of a good looking young woman sleeping with her boss who was over double her age at 60.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,411 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I assume you also criticise Melania?

    24 years between her and Trumpy Wumpy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,811 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Look, it's just simply a thing here that has a look about it. When you are a public figure you can expect that to be looked at. It's not sexist to be suspicious of a good looking young woman sleeping with her boss who was over double her age at 60.

    Like Melania Trump, for example. Sought a wealthy American in order to get citizenship for her and her parents and further her modeling career. So, perfectly normal isn't it? Her husband is much older than her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Do you agree that she has shown herself as pretty ruthless throughout her career to get to where she is now? It's the case with most people who get there.
    If you think a good looking young(28) woman who would have had many admirers ending up sleeping with her 60 boss is normal then I suggest you really don't know very much about the world.
    Your sexist comment is ridiculous given the age gap and the position held by Brown.
    A couple of months ago I found it shocking that people were coming on here with no information and posting links from agenda driven democrat supporters who were adamant that Tara Meade was lying despite not having any information about the alleged incident.
    I never too sides on that as there are only two people who really know what, if anything, happened.
    Did you come on here calling those guys sexist? I don't remember you saying it to any of them.

    Look, it's just simply a thing here that has a look about it. When you are a public figure you can expect that to be looked at. It's not sexist to be suspicious of a good looking young woman sleeping with her boss who was over double her age at 60.
    It's an ignorant, basic, misogynistic viewpoint to say that a woman should sleep with a certain person who fits with your ideas


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