Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Spanish Eyes · 30-09-2020 09:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the name of this particular virus? I'd be genuinely interested to learn.

The paralysis you mention sounds like Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which is a post viral neurological autoimmune syndrome which is very uncommon but can happen any adult of any age after any viral infection.

You seem to know a lot about medical stuff. Hats off to you for sharing your knowledge.

I blank it all out, and when it happens, it happens. Not much point speculating really, we know instictively when it's time to go get medical help.

speckle · 30-09-2020 09:41PM

jackboy wrote: »

It’s origin is not known, there is no name. Sufferers are just told they have a virus.

In the last year a few adults in the south/west have had a virus, that 'paralysed' their limbs, which took months of physio etc to recover. A friend being one of them. I caught it off that person, but I am generally healthier then them, yet, I seemed to have a problem with one leg afterwards, this was early December, it was mentioned here in the March thread on Covid.
Their is also a virus called EV D68, which mainly effects children which causes severe paralysis in some children,(and the odd adult), cases being found in the USA and a couple of outbreaks in Europe in recent years. It is mentioned somewhere now, on the HSE website.

Apart from that, I have had a lovely week/10 days with no mention of the C word, would advise people to take a weekend off with no C-word mentioned every so often.
Had my tea and cake in my local pub still for the handsome price of 2euros, and it was lovely, as I had a whisky in celebration. Hope all is as well, as can be expected, with everyone here on the thread.

Assetbacked · 30-09-2020 09:47PM

political analyst wrote: »

The percentage of non-vulnerable people who get the virus and have severe symptoms is probably very low. Therefore, what the epidemiologist Dr Giesicke suggested to the Oireachtas Covid committee last week is worth considering.

"probably", it's definitely very low. Particularly in those of working age and younger.

Goldengirl · 30-09-2020 09:49PM

speckle wrote: »

In the last year a few adults in the south/west have had a virus, that 'paralysed' their limbs, which took months of physio etc to recover. A friend being one of them. I caught it off that person, but I am generally healthier then them, yet, I seemed to have a problem with one leg afterwards, this was early December, it was mentioned here in the March thread on Covid.
Their is also a virus called EV D68, which mainly effects children which causes severe paralysis in some children,(and the odd adult), cases being found in the USA and a couple of outbreaks in Europe in recent years. It is mentioned somewhere now, on the HSE website.

Apart from that, I have had a lovely week/10 days with no mention of the C word, would advise people to take a weekend off with no C-word mentioned every so often.
Had my tea and cake in my local pub still for the handsome price of 2euros, and it was lovely, as I had a whisky in celebration. Hope all is as well, as can be expected, with everyone here on the thread.

That is very interesting Speckle , hope you are doing well.
I have heard of this but it was called Transverse Myelitis ?

Good to take time off from it if you can .
Was back in the job for a couple of days so far this week and things are getting a bit tense .
Dublin city is like a ghost town today but the weather was awful so that didn't help .
Roll on some dry weather and sunny skies to brighten things up , and help forget about this stuff for a while .

TonyMaloney · 30-09-2020 09:55PM

speckle wrote: »

In the last year a few adults in the south/west have had a virus, that 'paralysed' their limbs, which took months of physio etc to recover. A friend being one of them. I caught it off that person, but I am generally healthier then them, yet, I seemed to have a problem with one leg afterwards, this was early December, it was mentioned here in the March thread on Covid.
Their is also a virus called EV D68, which mainly effects children which causes severe paralysis in some children,(and the odd adult), cases being found in the USA and a couple of outbreaks in Europe in recent years. It is mentioned somewhere now, on the HSE website.

Apart from that, I have had a lovely week/10 days with no mention of the C word, would advise people to take a weekend off with no C-word mentioned every so often.
Had my tea and cake in my local pub still for the handsome price of 2euros, and it was lovely, as I had a whisky in celebration. Hope all is as well, as can be expected, with everyone here on the thread.

Oh you lucky c-word

Wolf359f · 30-09-2020 09:56PM

political analyst wrote: »

The percentage of non-vulnerable people who get the virus and have severe symptoms is probably very low. Therefore, what the epidemiologist Dr Giesicke suggested to the Oireachtas Covid committee last week is worth considering.

This the same guy who backtracked on that statement literally the same day?

'probably' is not a term I'd want to use when you're advocating herd immunity.
Don't you get it, averaging 300 cases a day is putting strain on the health service and not all in hospital would have been considered vulnerable. This far fetched idea would take years to do and at great cost.
Pie in the sky stuff.

robbiezero · 30-09-2020 09:59PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Sick of the whole thing. Haven't seen my children, parents or siblings in bloody months. Barely ever leave the house cause I'm scared ****less and you've scrotes in the college's getting pissed. Sick of everything and everyone

Why not?
I have seen all mine loads of times and will continue to do so regardless of what imaginary fraction of a level the merry band of NPHET put us at.

US2 · 30-09-2020 10:03PM

Big numbers coming from Tipperary in the next few days.

speckle · 30-09-2020 10:03PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

That is very interesting Speckle , hope you are doing well.
I have heard of this but it was called Transient Myelitis ?

Good to take time off from it if you can .
Was back in the job for a couple of days so far this week and things are getting a bit tense .
Dublin city is like a ghost town today but the weather was awful so that didn't help .
Roll on some dry weather and sunny skies to brighten things up , and help forget about this stuff for a while .

The medical profession met this last march and rose to the occasion, you will be able to do it again, and you are now armed with way more knowledge then the first time around.Try thinking of flowing with action not tense reaction or anticipation, easier said than done:cool:

I have heard of a variation of the above. But, I and my GP are waiting on the person to come back with a name from their next consultants meeting, (they think was a guys name) regarding the virus in December.

I think most people forget various viruses can have serious side effects in a small minority of people, and some viruses in general and depending on the person can take a while to recover from, we are a very get up and go culture that forgets that between illness and health there is a stage called recovery.

I will let you know when the sunshine is on the way up to the big smoke:)

mountgomery burns · 30-09-2020 10:07PM

US2 wrote: »

Big numbers coming from Tipperary in the next few days.

Why so?

Funsterdelux · 30-09-2020 10:11PM

US2 wrote: »

Big numbers coming from Tipperary in the next few days.

Matt Damon?

speckle · 30-09-2020 10:13PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Oh you lucky c-word

So you all don't feel to hard done by... I haven't seen the inside of my local in 7 months, when friends played a gig.:P

Goldengirl · 30-09-2020 10:29PM

speckle wrote: »

The medical profession met this last march and rose to the occasion, you will be able to do it again, and you are now armed with way more knowledge then the first time around.Try thinking of flowing with action not tense reaction or anticipation, easier said than done:cool:

I have heard of a variation of the above. But, I and my GP are waiting on the person to come back with a name from their next consultants meeting, (they think was a guys name) regarding the virus in December.

I think most people forget various viruses can have serious side effects in a small minority of people, and some viruses in general and depending on the person can take a while to recover from, we are a very get up and go culture that forgets that between illness and health there is a stage called recovery.
I will let you know when the sunshine is on the way up to the big smoke:)

Hope soon . It was lovely until Tuesday

Typo..transient ..should be Transverse Myelitis . Edited now .
Thanks for the kind words .
If it can be stopped/ slowed sooner than last March was it would be better for everyone .
Will be sending good thoughts to you x

WoollyRedHat · 30-09-2020 10:30PM

Quote from Prof Nolan from earlier in press conference:

'Since the 1 August to midnight on 28 September there has been 9,632 cases notified, 269 of those were admitted to hospital… of those – 153 – almost 60% were under 65 and 56, or one in five were under 40, so young people ar unfortunately being hospitalised with this disease.

There were 30 admitted to ICU, of those 22 or three quarters were under 65 and four were under 40, so again that’s severe disease in younger people. '

Can't argue with the data. We could be in a precarious place by early November which would match trend we saw earlier in year, a slow burn. The fact that they are still not emphasizing risk of aerosol infection is a concern. Growing evidence that it can linger in air and beyond two metres for at least an hour. http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/ucd-research-shows-covid-particles-can-remain-airborne-for-over-an-hour-1.4366942%3fmode=amp

Goldengirl · 30-09-2020 10:35PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Matt Damon?

Filming in Cahir , but all the crew wearing masks with their chainmail

What Username Guidelines · 30-09-2020 10:38PM

Operations report

121 in hospital, increase of 4
22 in icu, increase of 4
8 ventilated, increase of 1

Interesting to note that hospitalised hit 130 today at one point, but discharges have brought it down somewhat.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-daily-operations-update-2000-30-september-2020.pdf

hotmail.com · 30-09-2020 10:45PM

It appears that many people are just fed up with everything now.

Van.Bosch · 30-09-2020 10:52PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

It appears that many people are just fed up with everything now.

I am

Always_Running · 30-09-2020 11:00PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Operations report

121 in hospital, increase of 4
22 in icu, increase of 4
8 ventilated, increase of 1

Interesting to note that hospitalised hit 130 today at one point, but discharges have brought it down somewhat.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-daily-operations-update-2000-30-september-2020.pdf

Considering their recent rise in cases Galway with none in hospital a stand out in tonights update.

Goldrickssan · 30-09-2020 11:03PM

Mayo for Sam

30-09-2020 11:05PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Operations report

121 in hospital, increase of 4
22 in icu, increase of 4
8 ventilated, increase of 1

Interesting to note that hospitalised hit 130 today at one point, but discharges have brought it down somewhat.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-daily-operations-update-2000-30-september-2020.pdf

all that but how old was the death?? where's that all lost in the jargon then?? I want to know about the deaths profiles. link please?? age, setting? underlying condition if any??

speckle · 30-09-2020 11:06PM

Some not so good news, but potentially good news(further down article re meds that block virus entry)

Article discussing a pre- print, but links to with previous work from the country of presumed origin as well as the recent research. Links in the article to the scientific/medical research journals.

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-covid-19-study-reveals-that-sars-cov-2-uses-cd4-cells-to-infect-t-helper-lymphocytes--covid-19-a-potent-version-of-airborne-hiv

'Remarkably, the same monoclonal antibody that has been used to block HIV entry in CD4+ T cells also blocked SARS-CoV-2 in a dose dependent manner'

Adding the above potential good news from the article as a quote, so it doesn't get lost in the mix. And please read 'airborne...as aerosol/droplet' NOT like as in nuclear radiation, as a few people still get them mixed up, especially, in translating from one language to another.

Icantthinkof1 · 30-09-2020 11:14PM

speckle wrote: »

Some not so good news, but potentially good news(further down article re meds that block virus entry)

Article discussing a pre- print, but links to with previous work from the country of presumed origin as well as the recent research. Links in the article to the scientific/medical research journals.

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-covid-19-study-reveals-that-sars-cov-2-uses-cd4-cells-to-infect-t-helper-lymphocytes--covid-19-a-potent-version-of-airborne-hiv

'Remarkably, the same monoclonal antibody that has been used to block HIV entry in CD4+ T cells also blocked SARS-CoV-2 in a dose dependent manner'

Adding the above potential good news from the article as a quote, so it doesn't get lost in the mix. And please read 'airborne...as aerosol/droplet' NOT like as in nuclear radiation, as a few people still get them mixed up, especially, in translating from one language to another.

Speckle. Can you please simplify this for the likes of me who wants some good news but have no idea what this all means (thank you)
I got a bit lost at the airborne and aerosol part

rodders999 · 30-09-2020 11:14PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Mayo for Sam

McConkey?

growleaves · 30-09-2020 11:16PM

30-09-2020 11:16PM

HIQA Today

"COVID-19 may have accelerated time of death in frail and vulnerable individuals over the peak period. The excess mortality observed at the peak is now being followed by a period of decreased mortality as date of death for individuals who would ordinarily have died during this time occurred earlier than expected by a matter of weeks or months"

how old are the latest deaths?? all this ****e talk and not one straight answer?? Is tis boards or RTE??

xvril · 30-09-2020 11:18PM

Are facemasks actually helping?

speckle · 30-09-2020 11:22PM

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

Speckle. Can you please simplify this for the likes of me who wants some good news but have no idea what this all means (thank you)

Bad new virus is sneaky uses more than Ace 2 to gain entry.
Early research saw part of the sequence of the rna (think human dna) had echos of the HIV virus in it.
So they tried monoclonal antibodies(think drug/medicine) that they use against HIV to see if it worked on Covid, and it seems too.

Hope that is not missing to much in simplifying? I read research papers but a handy tip when reading the original research papers is to read the abstract/introduction and the conclusions at the end. Taking into account that a layperson may miss some nuances. Hope that helps.

30-09-2020 11:22PM

xvril wrote: »

Are facemasks actually helping?

NOPE!!! watch RTE interviews with the public..when masks shift they cause you to fix them, they itch, they shift, they have to be adjusted..
ever see a surgeon in theatre ask the nurse to scratch his nose for him?? every wonder why???

Its like in schools, a kid gets a cool video and passes his phone over to his friend..he swipes via finger then onto his own phone minutes later... the phones alone are one major transmission point, like passing around an agar dish and swiping your finger in it, the phone is at a persons mouth all day collecting sputum whilst its passed round.

put hey, that never happens with teenagers in school I suppose.

growleaves · 30-09-2020 11:25PM

If you cheer for the following story you are a lost soul:

Cops In Pakistan’s Faisalabad Are Using Shock Devices to Punish People For Not Wearing Masks

Faisalabad: While it’s extremely essential for citizens to wear face masks and observe social distancing guidelines in a Covid-19 world, there have been several instances where policemen have gone into overdrive, using force and violence to teach detractors a lesson.

In another such shocking story of police excess, police and the district administration in Pakistan’s Faisalabad, have been using high-frequency shock on people for not wearing protective face masks or for violating other standard operating procedures.

Apart from giving electric shocks to people, other punishments also include standing in the sun for half an hour and a slap from a policeman.

According to Gulf News, the police is now facing criticism as many people have complained about this insensitive initiative.

“They are not even sparing the minors or those who are traveling with their families or with children on motorbikes or auto-rickshaws,” said Irshad, a resident of Ghulam Muhammadabaad.

Another person, who was was traveling with his 15-year-old son on a motorbike to get medicines for his wife, was hit with the electric shotgun.

“It was such a sudden shock and so painful that for a few seconds I felt like I was dying. They not only inflicted the shock on me but also did the same to my son,” he said.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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