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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Some people still unable to work or exercise after 6 months .
    That's not good .

    They would be exceptional cases in fairness.

    There is another virus around for the last few years which has caused temporary paralysis in a significant amount of young people and then months of recovery time. People aren’t panicking over that one though as the media is not interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Polar101


    40 pensioners on a six-day coach tour in Norway, they drove around the country. 38 out of the 40 people on the tour got infected, plus over a hundred people in the at least 15 locations they stopped at have been quarantined.

    (source, but only in Norwegian https://direkte.vg.no/coronaviruset/news/fhi-over-50-smittede-knyttes-til-smittebuss.HThpjooGz?utm_source=vgfront&utm_content=row-1 )

    I don't know, but maybe going on tours isn't the greatest idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Some people still unable to work or exercise after 6 months .
    That's not good .

    How many is 'some' though?

    This means nothing unless it's quantified.

    If it's 5 people who had cv19, then it's a tiny proportion of those who caught it. If it's 5000 then it's a different matter.

    Maybe they had underlying conditions that other infected people don't have?

    Maybe they are lazy and don't want to go back to work and are pretending to be suffering?

    It's nothing without more data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Who is this Danny boy lad on twitter who seems to be Covid expert #1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Sick of the whole thing. Haven't seen my children, parents or siblings in bloody months. Barely ever leave the house cause I'm scared ****less and you've scrotes in the college's getting pissed. Sick of everything and everyone

    Have found it hard too particularly in the last few days. The evidence surrounding immunity really concerns me. Playing football seems to be on the verge of being banned for non elites and having to do college mostly online too is not a great experience. I don't know if we will get levels back to how low they were in the summer for quite a few years also the way compliance has gone and only see the situation getting more serious as the weeks progress


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Polar101 wrote: »
    40 pensioners on a six-day coach tour in Norway, they drove around the country. 38 out of the 40 people on the tour got infected, plus over a hundred people in the at least 15 locations they stopped at have been quarantined.

    (source, but only in Norwegian https://direkte.vg.no/coronaviruset/news/fhi-over-50-smittede-knyttes-til-smittebuss.HThpjooGz?utm_source=vgfront&utm_content=row-1 )

    I don't know, but maybe going on tours isn't the greatest idea?

    .... and we often hear about how crap Ireland is handling the virus and how we should be doing it more like X or Y.

    Imagine the uproar if this story was here.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    jackboy wrote: »
    They would be exceptional cases in fairness.

    There is another virus around for the last few years which has caused temporary paralysis in a significant amount of young people and then months of recovery time. People aren’t panicking over that one though as the media is not interested.

    It sounds terrifying. What's it called?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Main headline on rte, how a weekend away caused 30 cases. Would they ever **** off. Makes me want to go out and get pissed. When are they gonna realise this **** doesn't work.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    Every body is wearing their masks in shops but less and less are sanitising their hands on the way in. Remember that when you handle your change from the till, type in your pin and touch the coffee machine screen


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Main headline on rte, how a weekend away caused 30 cases. Would they ever **** off. Makes me want to go out and get pissed. When are they gonna realise this **** doesn't work.

    Depends on what the aim is? All they're going for is clicks and shares, it certainly works in that regard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It sounds terrifying. What's it called?

    It’s origin is not known, there is no name. Sufferers are just told they have a virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭alentejo


    I dont think a Level 5 lock down would be as effective the second time round. More people would be breaking rules, hence it would take longer to lower the infection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Every body is wearing their masks in shops but less and less are sanitising their hands on the way in. Remember that when you handle your change from the till, type in your pin and touch the coffee machine screen

    That's cos most people have come to the realisation that the whole sanitising your hands 100 times a day is pure OCD rubbish


  • Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    They would be exceptional cases in fairness.

    There is another virus around for the last few years which has caused temporary paralysis in a significant amount of young people and then months of recovery time. People aren’t panicking over that one though as the media is not interested.

    What's the name of this particular virus? I'd be genuinely interested to learn.

    The paralysis you mention sounds like Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which is a post viral neurological autoimmune syndrome which is very uncommon but can happen any adult of any age after any viral infection.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    That's cos most people have come to the realisation that the whole sanitising your hands 100 times a day is pure OCD rubbish

    I see. I didn't know that.
    How did they come to this conclusion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,549 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I don't understand what point you're trying to make?

    I don't believe 'nor suggested ECDC and WHO are ignorant, I said the public.

    Do you understand the point I'm making that there's a difference between hypertension & heart disease or diabetes type 1 & 2 and that some of these are a higher risk from certain factors than others. This logic is already being applied in our fight against CV19, but we should a lot more of it.

    i.e. In general, a Type 1 diabetic is more at risk from a bag of skittles, but a Type 2 diabetic is more at risk from CV19.

    You are a diabetic ..are you also hypertensive ? You omitted them from the" danger list " you quoted .
    That was my point originally but you missed it thinking you were going to educate me about " layering aliments " which to be honest is not a word I think you meant , and some jumble about CDC .
    America has one of the most heavily obese populations in the world, of course obesity will figure largely on their hit list .
    Heart disease yes , but not to include diabetes and hypertension is just silly .
    They are the first 2 causes of severe illness and death with Covid 19 , followed by heart disease, severe respiratory illness , cancer and immunocompromise, and yes , with obesity as a complicating factor , along with other factors.
    But it is not the main risk factor in this disease , certainly not in Europe or worldwide .
    You mention type 1 vs 2 , so somehow any data that has diabetes on its list is incorrect ? Yes type 2 are more at risk , but you never mentioned diabetes at all !
    I am far from ignorant in this but I am not going to discuss that with you as you obviously have tunnel vision here, for some reason , and I suspect it is that you don't want to admit you might be vulnerable .
    Understandable , but don't try to push incorrect statements down people's throats because of that .
    Your comments about nurses upset me last night .
    I don't want to talk to you really so I will not be replying to your posts anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,549 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    jackboy wrote: »
    They would be exceptional cases in fairness.

    There is another virus around for the last few years which has caused temporary paralysis in a significant amount of young people and then months of recovery time. People aren’t panicking over that one though as the media is not interested.

    How infectious is it ?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    jackboy wrote: »
    It’s origin is not known, there is no name. Sufferers are just told they have a virus.

    Wait. Are you sure they haven't fallen off a ladder recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Tom Hanks is diabetic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,549 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Every body is wearing their masks in shops but less and less are sanitising their hands on the way in. Remember that when you handle your change from the till, type in your pin and touch the coffee machine screen

    Yes, sanitise again after that always .
    Hate when you can't just tap


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Ventilation. Wrap up warm this winter. Beanies will be the new facemarks. Get them while you can......

    https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1311325271937687554?s=20


  • Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    It’s origin is not known, there is no name. Sufferers are just told they have a virus.

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/publications/healthprotection/public-health-/guillainbarrereview.pdf

    Can be caused by likes of common or garden campylobacter food poisoning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Deshawn wrote: »
    I see. I didn't know that.
    How did they come to this conclusion?

    It is pretty generally accepted at this stage that surface transmission is low risk.
    It doesn't survive long on surfaces and less on skin
    Even if you did touch something with the virus would you immediately put your hand in your mouth?

    Also if transmission did occur this way it would be a very low viral load?

    One article here, lots out there.

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200903/coronavirus-on-surfaces-whats-the-real-risk


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭TexasTornado


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Main headline on rte, how a weekend away caused 30 cases. Would they ever **** off. Makes me want to go out and get pissed. When are they gonna realise this **** doesn't work.

    What sh1t? Getting pissed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,196 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Every body is wearing their masks in shops but less and less are sanitising their hands on the way in. Remember that when you handle your change from the till, type in your pin and touch the coffee machine screen

    Fewer and fewer for sure are hand sanitising now I agree. It's as if the mask gives them protection or something.

    It is so easy to have a little bottle in your pocket, no big deal. We throw a bit of hand san on a tissue to wipe down the trolley where you put your hands. OK, some places have this near the trolley bays, others don't.

    Always hit the pedestrian light button with your elbow and where possible any other buttons. ATMs, well just slash that gel on after, same when you exceed the tap limit and have to put in your code at the tills. It is just feckin common sense, come on folks. It is not that difficult really.

    Every little helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,549 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    What's the name of this particular virus? I'd be genuinely interested to learn.

    The paralysis you mention sounds like Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which is a post viral neurological autoimmune syndrome which is very uncommon but can happen any adult of any age after any viral infection.

    Or MS can be triggered by an autoimmune reaction to a virus .
    Or ME , or encephalitis , or hundreds of other awful illnesses .
    None of these despite the millions of viruses out there are very common , thankfully .
    But what we don't know yet is the extent to which this current, very infectious virus will affect people who have had it , in the future .
    Wouldn't be going out to get it , no pun intended :)


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    The percentage of non-vulnerable people who get the virus and have severe symptoms is probably very low. Therefore, what the epidemiologist Dr Giesicke suggested to the Oireachtas Covid committee last week is worth considering.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    How the fvck did the whole class get it? Wonder what the 26 were doing at break.

    Great to know they can only catch it at break time.

    Simple solution, no breaks = no outbreaks.

    https://twitter.com/DeeGilhawley/status/1311359932307058688?s=20

    Wonder how many of the 26 actually knew or cared that they had it - most probably had no symptoms.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    The percentage of non-vulnerable people who get the virus and have severe symptoms is probably very low. Therefore, what the epidemiologist Dr Giesicke suggested to the Oireachtas Covid committee last week is worth considering.

    Why is it probably very low?

    What percentage could we live with?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    There was a line in the news from one of the NPHET guys along the lines of 'people don't seem to be listening.

    Well what if that's how it continues?

    To me it looks like the people aren't listening. The figures aren't improving. Lockdowns aren't working.

    So if this continues and gets worse, will the gov have the balls to move to a level4 or level 5, or will they have a serious discussion about perhaps trying to tell the vulnerable to watch themselves and stay at level 3 for the rest of us?


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