Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

ACitizenErased · 30-09-2020 04:16PM

The positivity rate has been higher for the last 10 days. We’ve seen very little difference in case numbers, as far as I can see, indicating there’s quite a few retests.

TonyMaloney · 30-09-2020 04:16PM

Boggles wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the backlog is being cleared with confirmed infections.

Anyone know the current backlog?

Benimar has it at 175 potentially

30-09-2020 04:18PM

Just had my flu jab.

covid20 · 30-09-2020 04:18PM

kenmc wrote: »

So replace one set of well defined and known imaginary lines, with another?

Exactly

Boggles · 30-09-2020 04:20PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Benimar has it at 175 potentially

So that is 0.19%.

That is not a high level of retesting by any metric.

So it doubled in 24 days not 20 if they are retests.

douglashyde · 30-09-2020 04:21PM

seamus wrote: »

There are many reasons why that 5% is vastly overinflated.

Since 1st July the CFR is 0.6%; 65 deaths out of 10,263 cases.

87% of all of our deaths occurred between 1st April and 31st May.

That's 0.12% out of the previous two weeks. That's also a little inaccurate because we know the lead time between infection and death is often well over two weeks.

It is however considerably closer to reality than 5%.

Agree, however as we are testing far more we are going to see CFR come down further . The CFR for the flu is .1%, however we don't test for the flu as much as we do for CV19. So hard to compare.

It doesn't take away from the fact that the deadliness of CV19 is only a fraction of what we originally were estimating as a society (official number in March was 3.5%).

It's all guess work right now, with the CDC/WHO now predicting (I believe) a CFR of .6%. Better care, more testing, protecting vulnerable, I have no doubt we will get this number right down.

KrustyUCC · 30-09-2020 04:26PM

seamus wrote: »

The main concern about Cork is that some urban areas are way above the county average, but there's no way to lock them down without locking down the whole county.

Dublin is different because the entire county is more population dense - 21 times denser than Cork.

Yup its an issue alright

bb1234567 · 30-09-2020 04:28PM

douglashyde wrote: »

Here is the latest Epidemiology report from the HSE:
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20200929_Website.pdf

The case fatality rate (those tested and confirmed positive that then die) is .12% - so far lower again. That's 1/1000. Also, we can determine who these 1/1000 are going to be with great accuracy.

When you factor in asymptomatic or mild symptoms not being tested - the IFR (infection mortality rate) will be greatly lower again potentially by many factors.

0.2-0.4% of the population of several regions worldwide have died of COVID, in the US and South America. It's certainly at least 0.4-0.5%

covid20 · 30-09-2020 04:30PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Please present any evidence to back up this lunacy.......

I'm laughing at your signature.

Can I believe I'm a giraffe?

This is my problem generally, a complete disregard for reality. If you believe it, does not make it true, ever. This is not Disney.

CalamariFritti · 30-09-2020 04:35PM

covid20 wrote: »

I'm laughing at your signature.

Can I believe I'm a giraffe?

This is my problem generally, a complete disregard for reality. If you believe it, does not make it true, ever. This is not Disney.

Could just answer the question I suppose.

30-09-2020 04:35PM

covid20 wrote: »

I'm laughing at your signature.

Can I believe I'm a giraffe?

This is my problem generally, a complete disregard for reality. If you believe it, does not make it true, ever. This is not Disney.

what is the reality as you see it Covid 20?? calm down a little and just tell us?
I've only just turned on the PC, so I'm not being facetious but you sound like a man with a plan.

covid20 · 30-09-2020 04:37PM

rusty cole wrote: »

what is the reality as you see it Covid 20?? calm down a little and just tell us?
I've only just turned on the PC, so I'm not being facetious but you sound like a man with a plan.

No plan, just derision for people who can't act maturely as we watch a second wave play out.

hynesie08 · 30-09-2020 04:38PM

covid20 wrote: »

I'm laughing at your signature.

Can I believe I'm a giraffe?

This is my problem generally, a complete disregard for reality. If you believe it, does not make it true, ever. This is not Disney.

It's a lyric from a song...... I genuinely forgot it was there as I have signatures turned off.

I agree with you though people on here believe it's a potent killer virus with no chance of a vaccine....... Doesn't make it true.

You can believe you're a giraffe if you want, you'd still have less neck than some of the fear mongers on here..

covid20 · 30-09-2020 04:40PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

It's a lyric from a song...... I genuinely forgot it was there as I have signatures turned off.

I agree with you though people on here believe it's a potent killer virus with no chance of a vaccine....... Doesn't make it true.

You can believe you're a giraffe if you want, you'd still have less neck than some of the fear mongers on here..

Nice turn of phrase

30-09-2020 04:52PM

polesheep wrote: »

We'll I've just heard that my old aunt has tested 'positive' for the second time, five months since the first time. So, I'll be taking any positive figures with a large grain of salt

Is she well?

30-09-2020 04:53PM

polesheep wrote: »

We'll I've just heard that my old aunt has tested 'positive' for the second time, five months since the first time. So, I'll be taking any positive figures with a large grain of salt

I hope she’ll be ok.

podgeandrodge · 30-09-2020 04:54PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Some of you may have read about the "12 cases of coronavirus" on crew on Mein Schiff 6 there during the week.

In summary (taken from elsewhere):

"TUI Cruises says Greek authorities have confirmed there aren't Covid-19 cases on its Mein Schiff 6 cruise. The German shipping company, which has been offering cruises in Greece since Sept. 13, says there was a false alarm caused by a report of 12 positive test results among crew members. The crew members later tested negative after three further tests, the company says."

They had tested negative twice — first with a PCR test administered by the cruise line and again with a rapid antigen test conducted by Greek authorities. The results of the third PCR tests ran by the Greek Authorities were also negative.

The Greek Authorities also conducted surfaces testing and all were negative.

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23573-mein-schiff-6-declared-corona-free-after-more-testing.html

Views on how the 12 original tests were positive?

30-09-2020 04:55PM

covid20 wrote: »

No plan, just derision for people who can't act maturely as we watch a second wave play out.

you know how waves work?? you know about frequency and amplitude???
tell me how maturity is defined as by your good self?

covid20 · 30-09-2020 05:00PM

rusty cole wrote: »

you know how waves work?? you know about frequency and amplitude???
tell me how maturity is defined as by your good self?

I know a bit about waves in that sense yeah. I also know that previous pandemics played out in stages. The psychological exhaustion and complacency is a notable feature of those waves. In 2020 with all our technological advances we should do better.

Maturity to follow the rules and not get seduced by conspiracy nonsense would be a good start.

A society held to ransom by its worst actors is the sad situation we are in.

growleaves · 30-09-2020 05:06PM

covid20 wrote: »

A society held to ransom by its worst actors is the sad situation we are in.

Have the cast of Fair City taken over the country?

ACitizenErased · 30-09-2020 05:09PM

polesheep wrote: »

Yes, thank you. I'm hoping that her first test was accurate and that the recent one is a false positive. She was asymptomatic first time despite being 97 at the time. No symptoms at the moment.

It’s possible one of those is a false positive. With all respect, and not meaning bad, obviously, but you’d expect symptoms at 97.

political analyst · 30-09-2020 05:20PM

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-09-29/long-covid-long-term-effects-of-coronavirus-include-damage-to-heart-liver-kidneys-oxford-study-reveals

Damage to the heart, liver and kidney are just a few of the long-term effects of Covid-19, according to a Oxford-based study.

Academics have already warned people could suffer from the impact of having coronavirus for years, with many experiencing prolonged symptoms.

Of those people in this country who were infected but survived, how many have 'long Covid'?

Goldrickssan · 30-09-2020 05:21PM

Lads how is cork today?

dzsfah2xoynme9 · 30-09-2020 05:23PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Lads how is cork today?

Some good sunshine with just a few passing showers..

Goldrickssan · 30-09-2020 05:27PM

Nelson Gigantic Whirlpool wrote: »

Some good sunshine with just a few passing showers..

Symptomatic or asymptomatic showers?

Goldengirl · 30-09-2020 05:42PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Thanks for the education. While you took aim at me, the underlying point of my response was that staff in all areas should have the requisite PPE as a means to protect them and others. Further is it not the case that when someone is really sick from Covid or indeed the flu they have gone beyond peak shedding and therefore lower viral loads - or is that incorrect also?

So perhaps general wards are in fact more dangerous in reality. Otherwise, all those hospital staff and the patients and especially the residents of nursing homes never caught the virus from breathing or even coughing in normal wards/residential rooms.

Seeing your post above, at no time have I ever on these forums taken aim at front line staff and am fully aware of the sacrifices made particularly in the early period when we knew so little.

Thanks for your reply . Only back on now .
I was only replying to the " air expelling " post there to you .
Aerosolised virus particles have been shown to be present in ICU due to the nature of procedures being performed there . Different level of PPE .
A lot of infections of HCWs were in the beginning when despite common sense (!) HSE were insisting that staff did not need any extra PPE or masks when dealing with non Covid patients / asymptomatic patients , despite nurses' objections that anybody might be infectious and that the risk was unknown .
You are correct given what we now know about asymptomatic spread that there are risks on the ward , but they would be lower risk as patients screened / or should be when admitted , but it is a good point .
On wards whilst patients coughing etc it is not as high risk but staff still need PPE .
On the posters to whom I requested to aim their fire elsewhere eg HSE management , politicians.... it wasn't you

CIARAN_BOYLE · 30-09-2020 05:44PM

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/_BenFinnegan/status/1311301744589180929?s=19

Is this still happening?

igCorcaigh · 30-09-2020 05:45PM

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1311346172716605440?s=19

Eod100 · 30-09-2020 05:45PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Is this still happening?

Yup

ACitizenErased · 30-09-2020 05:46PM

Today's 429 cases;

- 189 in Dublin
- 60 in Cork
- 31 in Donegal
- 28 in Galway
- 18 in Kildare
- 15 in Wicklow
- 15 in Clare
- 12 in Limerick
- 9 in Meath
- 8 in Louth
- 7 in Cavan
- 7 in Longford
- 6 in Laois
- 5 in Offaly
- 5 in Westmeath
- 14 cases in 8 counties

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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