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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    The Czech rep are declaring a state of emergency so that they can implement strict new restrictions quickly.
    One of them is to close all secondary schools from Monday.

    I wonder did they have the same "the schools must remain open at all costs" mantra that we currently live under.

    https://in.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-czech/czech-government-plans-state-of-emergency-to-impose-stricter-covid-19-curbs-idUKKBN26L0PP

    I can understand primary students going back, parents working etc.

    But there's hardly a need for secondary to go back, they could have easily done it online for at least a month until covid stabilized and they're big enough to mind themselves.

    Yes I know someone somewhere doesn't have a good internet connection but that's hardly a reason to put nearly a million kids and their teachers in danger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    growleaves wrote: »
    My memory must be paying tricks on me. Apologies then, it must have been someone else who said that.

    I believe the term of endearment used was 'cabbage'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭wowzer


    Blondini wrote: »
    Hospital numbers steadily creeping up. Could be a rough winter for the HSE.

    122 in hospital
    20 in ICU

    Just to highlight the change in a month it is worth showing these numbers from 01st September

    36 in hospital
    6 in ICU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Dashboard has updated - 442 positive swabs, 13247 tests. Positivity rate= 3.3%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Blondini wrote: »
    Hospital numbers steadily creeping up. Could be a rough winter for the HSE.
    122 in hospital
    20 in ICU

    :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Surely Dublin should be moving to level 4 by now. What are they waiting for? A thousand cases a day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,183 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    My original post was
    spookwoman wrote: »
    Todays Epidemiology report lists 2 deaths in the 45-54 age group, 1 in the 75-84 and 2 in the 85+ group. The other day someone in the 25-34 age group died. I would not regard 45-54 as old.

    You posted

    "I don't think anyone beyond their youth would, but what are the details? A lot of people die too young for myriad reasons."

    I basically said on epidemiology then covid related.

    Your reply was and this is where you try to downplay the deaths.
    C'mon, you know what I meant. If some unfortunate with severe underlying conditions catches Covid, regardless of how 'young' they are, it's a lot different from an otherwise healthy person catching it2

    I disagreed. I said does not matter if they had an underlying condition they still died. I also said some races are more prone to the affects of the virus and were you going to use the same excuse.

    I did not twists your words even with you using "very unlikely to live to a ripe old age". I never hid the numbers either I said up to the the age 64. Even with the 77 people from the 55-64 age group removed people still died under that age. Can't change that.
    polesheep wrote: »
    You can never be honest or straight, can you? I said 'unlikely' to live to a ripe old age. And you now remove the 77 from your figure that you slyly slipped in earlier. All children are vulnerable.

    The only person twisting things or should I say squirming is you and that is out of getting caught out on saying.
    polesheep wrote: »
    You try to make out that young people are snatched in their prime by Covid, but the truth is if you are so vulnerable in youth that you can be carried off by Covid then you were very unlikely to make it to a ripe old age

    What a vile and callus thing to say, would you say "Ah sure they probably would have died anyways even if they didn't get covid. " to the face of a parent who has lost their offspring. Keep scraping that barrel for your excuses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Bad numbers today.

    Will be Interesting to see the county breakdown. If we see Dublin come in with a smaller share of the cases, then we know level 3 is effective and can look at pushing it to other hotspots.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    seamus wrote: »
    Bad numbers today.

    Will be Interesting to see the county breakdown. If we see Dublin come in with a smaller share of the cases, then we know level 3 is effective and can look at pushing it to other hotspots.

    I don't think share matters much. I mean say for instance we see a massive jump in, I dunno, Cork - what bearing would that have on how things are going in Dublin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Icantthinkof1


    Dashboard has updated - 442 positive swabs, 13247 tests. Positivity rate= 3.3%

    Are those numbers over 24/48 hour period?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,009 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    seamus wrote: »
    Bad numbers today.

    Will be Interesting to see the county breakdown. If we see Dublin come in with a smaller share of the cases, then we know level 3 is effective and can look at pushing it to other hotspots.

    If Dublin is high we know it doesnt work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    spookwoman wrote: »
    My original post was


    You posted

    "I don't think anyone beyond their youth would, but what are the details? A lot of people die too young for myriad reasons."

    I basically said on epidemiology then covid related.

    Your reply was and this is where you try to downplay the deaths.
    C'mon, you know what I meant. If some unfortunate with severe underlying conditions catches Covid, regardless of how 'young' they are, it's a lot different from an otherwise healthy person catching it2

    I disagreed. I said does not matter if they had an underlying condition they still died. I also said some races are more prone to the affects of the virus and were you going to use the same excuse.

    I did not twists your words even with you using "very unlikely to live to a ripe old age". I never hid the numbers either I said up to the the age 64. Even with the 77 people from the 55-64 age group removed people still died under that age. Can't change that.



    The only person twisting things or should I say squirming is you and that is out of getting caught out on saying.



    What a vile and callus thing to say, would you say "Ah sure they probably would have died anyways even if they didn't get covid. " to the face of a parent who has lost their offspring. Keep scraping that barrel for your excuses.

    You said that you would not regard 45-54 as old and then, in a following post, slipped in the older age category. It was underhanded.
    And as for you final paragraph, we are talking about population level not individuals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Are those the numbers for over 24/48 hour period?

    24 hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    If Dublin is high we know it doesnt work
    We know that it hasn't worked yet. As they say - still too early to judge, not even two weeks yet. Dublin may well get an extension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Dashboard has updated - 442 positive swabs, 13247 tests. Positivity rate= 3.3%

    Oh that's not good


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, numbers increasing, 122 now in hospital, 18 in ICU.

    We learned yesterday we have a massive 17 extra ICU beds and currently 40 spare, and dribblers like McNamara are still debating the died with Covid died of Covid horsé****.

    No wonder NPHET couldn't be arsed showing up to this nonsense, it will be while before they come again.

    Nolans face throughout said it all.

    I actually despair. You think its acceptable that they couldn't be arsed showing up to the covid committee?

    Swear there's a cohort who would have us rid of accountability and out of a democracy in a matter of months if it made them feel slightly safer from a virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Lyle


    Dashboard has updated - 442 positive swabs, 13247 tests. Positivity rate= 3.3%

    How accurate have the positive swabs vs announced cases been the last 7/14 days? Are the occasional backlogs still happening or are they relatively close day-to-day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I posted a few day ago that we'd have 20+ in icu and a positivity rate over 3%. I honestly didn't expect it for a least a few months. This is truely scary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I can understand primary students going back, parents working etc.

    But there's hardly a need for secondary to go back, they could have easily done it online for at least a month until covid stabilized and they're big enough to mind themselves.

    Yes I know someone somewhere doesn't have a good internet connection but that's hardly a reason to put nearly a million kids and their teachers in danger.

    I wouldn't trust anyone aged between 13 and 18 to look after themselves on there own not now a day's maybe 30 years ago.
    At least at school there is some control of there movements


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Benimar wrote: »
    Potentially up to another 175 to come.

    Again, I don't expect it to be that high due to retests etc.

    Benimar is the man for the backlog around here.

    So we're easily looking at 500+ this evening and a night of frantic bickering


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I posted a few day ago that we'd have 20+ in icu and a positivity rate over 3%. I honestly didn't expect it for a least a few months. This is truely scary
    3% is where we started out , back in March. While you'd like to see a lower or dropping level it's a sign of them picking up more infections to be isolated. 20% would be scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Presuming it's old people in ICU.

    Where are they catching i wonder?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I posted a few day ago that we'd have 20+ in icu and a positivity rate over 3%. I honestly didn't expect it for a least a few months. This is truely scary

    Hospitals have re-opened to more surgeries and other issues; the correlation between increased cases and this rise in ICU patients is not necessarily a causation.

    "Truly scary" is hysteria to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,194 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I posted a few day ago that we'd have 20+ in icu and a positivity rate over 3%. I honestly didn't expect it for a least a few months. This is truely scary

    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,552 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I posted a few day ago that we'd have 20+ in icu and a positivity rate over 3%. I honestly didn't expect it for a least a few months. This is truely scary

    You also posted that you wanted the army out shooting people!!! Now that is something scary that anyone sane would be thinking that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Saw the Air Corps PC-12 descending towards baldonnel yesterday morning, wonder how/when the German numbers will be added into the mix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I don't think share matters much. I mean say for instance we see a massive jump in, I dunno, Cork - what bearing would that have on how things are going in Dublin?
    If we're seeing a countrywide increase, then you'd expect Dublin figures to sit around 40% of the daily figure, because that's the "normal".

    If Dublin is less than 40% then you've an indicator that the rest of country is growing compared to Dublin. More than 40% and Dublin is growing faster.

    Today's number comes from a phenomenon that we've seen now at least two weeks in a row - a large surge of GP referrals on Mondays, resulting in a large jump in swabs of probable cases.

    I wonder are more and more GPs cutting back on any weekend services and putting referrals through on Mondays?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭joe40


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I can understand primary students going back, parents working etc.

    But there's hardly a need for secondary to go back, they could have easily done it online for at least a month until covid stabilized and they're big enough to mind themselves.

    Yes I know someone somewhere doesn't have a good internet connection but that's hardly a reason to put nearly a million kids and their teachers in danger.

    I think whatever else happens the schools need to remain open.
    Covid is not going to stabilise by drastic on off restrictions like school closures, it will merely fluctuate.
    I understand the localised short term measures, but the virus isn't going away, we need to find a way function in a sustainable manner alongside the virus.
    School closures are not sustainable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,376 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Is there anywhere I can watch proceedings from the Oireachtas committee earlier today?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    is_that_so wrote: »
    3% is where we started out , back in March. While you'd like to see a lower or dropping level it's a sign of them picking up more infections to be isolated. 20% would be scary.

    Sorry but itis scary. We've a 5% death rate from positive swaps. Out of those 400 postive cases today statistically we're likely to see 20 deaths. This isn't just a flu and it's getting worse.


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