Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Funsterdelux · 29-09-2020 01:38PM

Boggles wrote: »

Rock, Paper, Scissors?

Pseudoscience i.e

Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo

polesheep · 29-09-2020 01:40PM

Boggles wrote: »

Rock, Paper, Scissors?

As usual a curt response that indicates that you didn't read all of the post.

caveat emptor · 29-09-2020 01:41PM

ICU capacity a very real concern. How many extra deaths will that lead to if we hit limits. Given we converted operating theatres in March etc.

You can look at fatality ratios in isolation given the systematic threat it poses.

The ICU capacity is generally used up anyway. 17 extra beds is not a lot of leeway.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1310887740641284101?s=21

polesheep · 29-09-2020 01:41PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Pseudoscience i.e

Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo

You really should consider removing the first three letters of your username. Your attempts at humour on the thread have become very tiresome.

Ficheall · 29-09-2020 01:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I guarantee the effects of lockdown have killed a large amount of people.

But did they die "with lockdown" or "from lockdown"?

Funsterdelux · 29-09-2020 01:49PM

polesheep wrote: »

You really should consider removing the first three letters of your username. Your attempts at humour on the thread have become very tiresome.

I know, I agree this pandemic is dragging out far too long. Its like been an entertainer on a never ending cruise ship, theres no way off other than drowning.

Btw just because I try to make a funny doesnt mean I do/dont agree with your post.

Regards

Sterdelux

CiarraiManc · 29-09-2020 01:54PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

I'd argue that 300,000 people out of work and the fact that they're locking down counties at 12 hours notice is not nearly everything open and the vast majority back to work, but the first bit is bang on.

He said we have to live with it....... You said

You get abuse for being a hand wringing fear mongerer with not a shred of evidence.

But there is no living with this thing. What do you people not understand about this thing? It's a killer virus

Zebra3 · 29-09-2020 01:55PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Hi all
How are the guards infocing the level-3 travel restrictions in Dublin?
Or are they enforcing them?

There are no restrictions.

We live in a democracy (still) and AGS can only enforce the law.

Long may it last.

stephenjmcd · 29-09-2020 01:58PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Hi all
How are the guards infocing the level-3 travel restrictions in Dublin?
Or are they enforcing them?

Short answer they aren't. There's no restrictions on movement at all. I say that in the sense that traveling in and out from work im yet to come across the checkpoint, while others that have, literally just told the guards they were going to x, y or z and they said grand.

stephenjmcd · 29-09-2020 01:59PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

ICU capacity a very real concern. How many extra deaths will that lead to if we hit limits. Given we converted operating theatres in March etc.

You can look at fatality ratios in isolation given the systematic threat it poses.

The ICU capacity is generally used up anyway. 17 extra beds is not a lot of leeway.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1310887740641284101?s=21

6 months and money being thrown at the HSE and they come up with 17 extra beds....

29-09-2020 02:01PM

guidelines and recommendations do not a legal requirement make.

where you going?? to Navan shopping for stuff!
is it essential??
it is to me, define essential guard??
On ye go!

polesheep · 29-09-2020 02:02PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

6 months and money being thrown at the HSE and they come up with 17 extra beds....

Based on past experience of the HSE I'm actually impressed. It's a pity that instead of spending so much money on PUP and restrictions that they didn't bring in an outside agency to beef up our health system.

GooglePlus · 29-09-2020 02:05PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

6 months and money being thrown at the HSE and they come up with 17 extra beds....

It's the nurses they're finding hard to increase. Takes up-skilling and I suppose the want has to be there too, along with numbers.

I wonder what the pay difference is when you step up?

polesheep · 29-09-2020 02:10PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

It's the nurses they're finding hard to increase. Takes up-skilling and I suppose the want has to be there too, along with numbers.

I wonder what the pay difference is when you step up?

A lot of nurses were upskilled earlier in the year but moving them to ICU will mean moving them out of some other area of care.

Plumbthedepths · 29-09-2020 02:15PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

But there is no living with this thing. What do you people not understand about this thing? It's a killer virus

To some it's a killer virus, to many it's not.

Eod100 · 29-09-2020 02:26PM

Good map here. https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1310932704003870721?s=19

Funsterdelux · 29-09-2020 02:31PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Good map here. https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1310932704003870721?s=19

But will 65% keep him going for the rest of the day?

Any word on Cavan monaghan? Looks high.

funnydoggy · 29-09-2020 02:39PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

But there is no living with this thing. What do you people not understand about this thing? It's a killer virus

To be fair even the government are calling the plan the "living with COVID" plan. The virus is killer for a minority of people.

GooglePlus · 29-09-2020 02:42PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

But will 65% keep him going for the rest of the day?

Any word on Cavan? Looks high.

I think that's wee old Monaghan, hi.

Away With The Fairies · 29-09-2020 02:42PM

Has HSE said anything about ventilation or opening windows at all? Any advice for the coming winter?

All they said so far is if you're showing symptoms to go into a room with an open window. But considering you're infectious before symptoms start, shouldn't windows be opened every day because you don't know when you'll fall sick?

But I think they actually want people to get sick.

Plumbthedepths · 29-09-2020 02:45PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Has HSE said anything about ventilation or opening windows at all? Any advice for the coming winter?

All they said so far is if you're showing symptoms to go into a room with an open window. But considering you're infectious before symptoms start, shouldn't windows be opened every day because you don't know when you'll fall sick?

But I think they actually want people to get sick.

Windows that can't be opened ? Any thoughts.

douglashyde · 29-09-2020 02:45PM

I know we're all saying the same thing in the same way - with broad agreement on this thread.

However am I reading the below right:

See latest 14 day report from HSE here: https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20200928_Website.pdf

The case fatality rate is now down to .1% < likely lower still as so many people (over half) are completely asymptomatic.

The CFR for the flu is .1% for context (with vaccines) and effects younger people much worse.

GooglePlus · 29-09-2020 02:47PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Has HSE said anything about ventilation or opening windows at all? Any advice for the coming winter?

All they said so far is if you're showing symptoms to go into a room with an open window. But considering you're infectious before symptoms start, shouldn't windows be opened every day because you don't know when you'll fall sick?

But I think they actually want people to get sick.

If you have the virus, an open window will do little to stop the spread in your house. Save yourself the temperature drop.

Ventilation is more important in settings with crowds but there's no point being stuck in your room with the window open coming into winter.

copeyhagen · 29-09-2020 02:47PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

But there is no living with this thing. What do you people not understand about this thing? It's a killer virus

99.998% of people would disagree

copeyhagen · 29-09-2020 02:53PM

douglashyde wrote: »

I know we're all saying the same thing in the same way - with broad agreement on this thread.

However am I reading the below right:

See latest 14 day report from HSE here: https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20200928_Website.pdf

The case fatality rate is now down to .1% < likely lower still as so many people (over half) are completely asymptomatic.

The CFR for the flu is .1% for context (with vaccines) and effects younger people much worse.

correct, but people in this thread cant udnerstand that, or just want to ignore it.

JP Liz V1 · 29-09-2020 02:53PM

For the second week in a row, members of NPHET have declined a call to attend the Dáil’s special COVID19 committee

sideswipe · 29-09-2020 02:53PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

If you have the virus, an open window will do little to stop the spread in your house. Save yourself the temperature drop.

Ventilation is more important in settings with crowds but there's no point being stuck in your room with the window open coming into winter.

Unless viral load is a major factor in which case the severity of the prospective infection may be reduced by having a well ventilated room.

s1ippy · 29-09-2020 02:56PM

Ventilation can blow virus into the house. Airflow in the right direction (blowing the virus outside) is what's meant by this.

Funsterdelux · 29-09-2020 02:57PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I think that's wee old Monaghan, hi.

Isnt my face red.

So whats with Monaghan.

ednwireland · 29-09-2020 03:02PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

For the second week in a row, members of NPHET have declined a call to attend the Dáil’s special COVID19 committee

seriously - how are they even allowed to do that ?

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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