Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

stephenjmcd · 29-09-2020 09:06AM

On a lighter note
https://twitter.com/DarrenEuronews/status/1310847650456047620?s=19

Funsterdelux · 29-09-2020 09:08AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

On a lighter note
https://twitter.com/DarrenEuronews/status/1310847650456047620?s=19

Johnny hasnt you covered.

CalamariFritti · 29-09-2020 09:09AM

Hardyn wrote: »

No they don't. WHO estimates IFR at between 0.5 and 1%.

And you can divide that safely by 10 again.

stephenjmcd · 29-09-2020 09:15AM

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1310855396610002949?s=19

funnydoggy · 29-09-2020 09:18AM

"Worth bearing in mind re Galway."

Some will listen to everything else this man has to say but they'll turn a blind eye to this. Cray cray.

ranto_boy · 29-09-2020 09:22AM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/vicjkim/status/1310842759276683265

That's great and all, but what about a survey of everyone who had it? Not just a sample of people who ended up in hospital. I mean in general if you end up in hospital for anything, if means it's quite serious and of course you wouldn't be right for a few months.

ranto_boy · 29-09-2020 09:23AM

Hardyn wrote: »

No they don't. WHO estimates IFR at between 0.5 and 1%.

Worth breaking down by age. CDC - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

0-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054

Happydays2020 · 29-09-2020 09:30AM

ranto_boy wrote: »

Worth breaking down by age. CDC - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Hold on. That does not fit the narrative that if you go outside your home you are likely to drop dead from this virus.

polesheep · 29-09-2020 09:33AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well a friend of mine lives nearby and recorded most of it(waiting for it to go onto social media before I post it) it was the Gardai who encouraged everyone to go to one point of Spanish Arch, the "crowd" was much more spread out until they asked everyone to go over the bridge. (Not sure why you'd want a spread out crowd closer together)

Still shouldn't happen but the full picture is needed before coming to conclusions here.

However there is one video from shop street of a large group around a busker, thats people just being stupid.

Foe the groups, Gardai can use public order legislation if things are getting out of hand but they're fairly stuck other than that

And if today there are three people on the street for every two gardai, tomorrow there will be six people on the street for those two gardai. There is increasing movement away from acceptance of restrictions for all as the only way to deal with this. It's time to think outside the box, but unfortunately NPHET is stuck on a track unable to see left or right.

polesheep · 29-09-2020 09:39AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

It took 2 months for the Dame Lane incident to translate into cases and 3 months for the BLM protest. The packed beaches were another thing. Not sure when Killarney will be hit for the dancing on telephone boxes incident.

It will be in 2026. It's a long time, I know, but don't drop your guard. And the effects! My God, the effects will last hundreds of years. In a thousand years time archaeologists will be digging up ancient bodies that are still writhing from the long-lasting effects of Covid.

polesheep · 29-09-2020 09:42AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

On a lighter note
https://twitter.com/DarrenEuronews/status/1310847650456047620?s=19

Words fail me.

Asylum15 · 29-09-2020 09:46AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

New CDC data confirm that the Wuhan coronavirus poses almost zero death risk in people below the age of 50 (see details below). At the same time, these data also confirm the virus remains extremely dangerous to people over the age of 70, and the CDC estimates that 1 in 18 elderly people who contract the virus (i.e. are “infected”) end up being killed by it.

Meanwhile, the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) for people 50 – 69 years is 1 in 200, making it far deadlier than the seasonal flu for individuals in that group.

But for people aged 20 – 49 years, the IFR drops to just 1 in 5000. This means that for every 5,000 people who are infected within this age group, one fatality is expected.

Those below the age of 20 have an even lower fatality rate: About 1 in 33,000.

In summary, the risk of death from the coronavirus in people under the age of 50 is extremely small, and approaching zero.

These numbers are based on the CDC’s new data released at the following link, using “Scenario 5” which is labeled, “Current Best Estimate.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Most importantly, these data show that coronavirus “cases” are meaningless if detected in someone who isn’t sick. The media continues to try to terrorize the nations by claiming tens of thousands of new “cases” each day, but these cases are almost universally non-significant in that the patients demonstrate no symptoms and no sickness. Furthermore, the tests being used to diagnose such “cases” are extremely unreliable and likely rooted in predominantly false positives.

In fact, in a truly shocking development that has not been reported by the scaremongering news media, the former Chief Science Officer of Pfizer is now claiming the entire “second wave” of the pandemic is being faked through the use of unreliable mass testing that’s producing mostly false positives.
The more you test the more "cases" you get.

The bottom line? Unless you’re over the age of 60 or so, the coronavirus poses very little risk to you. The lockdown reactions toward the virus are wildly exaggerated and medically unnecessary. While precautions should be taken for those who are elderly and therefore more vulnerable to risks of death, younger people don’t need vaccines, masks, social distancing or lockdowns. What they need is to get their lives back.

Except the emerging studies are showing even those with no symptoms (under age of 40) have gone on to develop long term issues with heart, respiratory system, fatigue etc. Might not kill you, but certainly makes your quality of life degrade.

polesheep · 29-09-2020 09:46AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1310855396610002949?s=19

As I said on another thread, the rhetoric is changing. As always, however, when the older generation think they're being cool, they are actually coming across as patronising parish priests.

Plumbthedepths · 29-09-2020 09:49AM

Asylum15 wrote: »

Except the emerging studies are showing even those with no symptoms (under age of 40) have gone on to develop long term issues with heart, respiratory system, fatigue etc. Might not kill you, but certainly makes your quality of life degrade.

We are 7 months into this, have we given a new definition to 'long term study' ? My understanding ( open to correction of course)is a long term study takes place over years not months.

29-09-2020 09:50AM

Swap house parties for dinner parties, which don't make social media and I can guarantee people of all ages aren't adhering to these guidelines. Using the term house parties in itself makes people think of young people drinking, conveniently ignores the multitude of other situations happening that cause as many issues.

29-09-2020 09:53AM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

And you can divide that safely by 10 again.

Explain how 0.16% of the population of Lombardy have died or 0.2% of the population of New York?

yawhat? · 29-09-2020 09:53AM

Christ, the naysayers are in top form in their echo chamber this morning. The old giving the young a good kicking, time to think outside the box, the effects of the virus aren’t that bad, the masses are rebelling against restrictions. Howling at the moon. Take a break lads.

Jackman25 · 29-09-2020 09:54AM

AdamD wrote: »

Swap house parties for dinner parties, which don't make social media and I can guarantee people of all ages aren't adhering to these guidelines. Using the term house parties in itself makes people think of young people drinking, conveniently ignores the multitude of other situations happening that cause as many issues.

Fact.
Had a lock-in in the local on Sunday evening. No one younger than 40 in attendance.

TonyMaloney · 29-09-2020 09:56AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

We are 7 months into this, have we given a new definition to 'long term study' ? My understanding ( open to correction of course)is a long term study takes place over years not months.

"long-term study" wasn't said by anyone

they're not just going to wait a few years before looking into this. we can't afford to

Plumbthedepths · 29-09-2020 09:57AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

"long-term study" wasn't said by anyone

they're not just going to wait a few years before looking into this. we can't afford to

To issue a report of long term affects surely a study 7 months into the pandemic is hardly evidence of long term affects?

What Username Guidelines · 29-09-2020 09:58AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Hold on. That does not fit the narrative that if you go outside your home you are likely to drop dead from this virus.

The narrative that’s only being pushed by one side on here, those saying “it’s not that bad”.

caveat emptor · 29-09-2020 10:02AM

The poor students. They were told to congregate together by the Gardai. It's just bad optics. They are all wonderful and would never contribute to a societal problem. Gardai were busy in Galway.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1310852315289726977?s=20

Jackman25 · 29-09-2020 10:04AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

The narrative that’s only being pushed by one side on here, those saying “it’s not that bad”.

It's not that bad.

TonyMaloney · 29-09-2020 10:06AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

To issue a report of long term affects surely a study 7 months into the pandemic is hardly evidence of long term affects?

well it depends on the ailment, doesn't it

if you've clearly got significant damage to your heart it's pretty safe to conclude it's a long term issue.

billybonkers · 29-09-2020 10:07AM

https://twitter.com/EddieHoareFG/status/1310697801211351040

petes · 29-09-2020 10:09AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

To issue a report of long term affects surely a study 7 months into the pandemic is hardly evidence of long term affects?

A long term illness can be diagnosed without the time having passed. How people don't get this I don't know.

Charles Babbage · 29-09-2020 10:09AM

These events and this thread show the callous and malign nature of many with whom were have to share society. It bodes ill for the future of this country.

Plumbthedepths · 29-09-2020 10:11AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

well it depends on the ailment, doesn't it

if you've clearly got significant damage to your heart it's pretty safe to conclude it's a long term issue.

Influenza can cause Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart, scarring of the lungs. These don't go away after a few days.
Running a marathon can cause inflammation of the heart. But we know this from long term studies and we know the affects are rarely permanent. I'm just referring to the two things I mentioned before you wade in. It is too early to know definitively the long term affects of Covid, although it has all the appearance of a respiratory illness.

hetuzozaho · 29-09-2020 10:11AM

It'll be a shame if Galway and Cork have to go into lockdown bringing more businesses with them just because people can't be a bit more sensible about their contacts.

caveat emptor · 29-09-2020 10:12AM

Ronan Glynn giving a dose of reality. Don't watch if you are easily affected by "negative" news. Of course it can be dismissed as media training but I'd listen to the CMO over a random boards poster any day.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1310637555285712896?s=20

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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